My argument for Izzy being a TOP 10 all time fighter

there is no argument. He is in the top 10,
it goes
Jon Jones
Anderson
GSP
Izzy
DC
Usman
MightyMouse
Cyborg/nunes
Aldo
Khabib
 
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i can pull out some data if you want....
but be careful alot of folks on here are gonna get embarrassed......
 
there is no argument. He is in the top 10,
it goes
Jon Jones
Anderson
GSP
Izzy
DC
Usman
MightyMouse
Cyborg/nunes
Aldo
Khabib
6 and 5 in title fights with boring close wins doesn’t get you anywhere close to top 10
 
Why don't you post what that stat even is?? I'm guessing it's the number of total title fight wins and if he has 8 then they are including the interim title against Kelvin freaking Gastelum.

So that interim fight counts but Silva's fight with Lutter isn't counted since Lutter missed weight. Crappy criteria right there.
 
Yeah might have to give it a read, that other guy was talking about it as well. Wonder if he did an audiobook version, probably not

Not sure about the audiobook, but theres a guy on YouTube that read it and he gives a pretty detailed synopsis of it sir.
 
Why don't you post what that stat even is?? I'm guessing it's the number of total title fight wins and if he has 8 then they are including the interim title against Kelvin freaking Gastelum.

So that interim fight counts but Silva's fight with Lutter isn't counted since Lutter missed weight. Crappy criteria right there.
I did it’s from the UFC stats
 
I did it’s from the UFC stats
You cut out the part where it lists what it is tho. Going to check UFC stats but yeah. It is super impressive either way. It's just one criteria tho. To some extent we have to count other stuff like overall win streak, opponents beaten etc..

For example I'd put Tony over a bunch of former champs in all time GOAT discussion. I'm not sure if Izzy should be top 10 because there are so many other great fighters. There is only a handful of guys that truly standout above the rest like Jones, Silva, DJ, GSP, Fedor.
 
The only universe where Izzy is a Top 10 fighter of all-time, is one that is just obsessed with statistics like ‘title defences’.

Here’s my example that I always use in this scenario.

Joe Soto - title defence.

Fedor Emelianenko - no title fight.

Does the fight somehow become more difficult when a piece of leather and gold is on the line? Nonsense, right?

Izzy has some extremely high, highs. That said, he has a lot of weird ‘lows’.

Vettori is not a great fighter, yet over 2 fights, he arguably lost the first, and just sparred his way through the second.
 
9 title fight wins.

Matt had 7 total title defenses, 5 in his first championship run and 2 in his 2nd run as champ, *but he defeated Royce Gracie and Joe Riggs in non title fights as UFC champ, so it is basically a technicality that he has 9 title fight wins and 7 title defenses rather than 11 title fight wins and 9 defenses.

The Riggs fight, Joe Riggs missed weight, that is not Matt's fault.
The Royce Gracie fight was at 175. The outcome would not have been any different if the fight was at 170.


Matt had a record of 41-4 prior to GSP losses he held the title from late 2001- late 2006, 5 years basically as champ and he avenged the BJ loss via stoppage.
I my memory is correct I believe he had the most title fight wins, the most title defenses and longest tenure of days as champ in UFC history at the time (late 2006).

In his 12 title fights Hughes only went to the judges ONE time. Against Sherk who was unbeaten in 20 fights prior to Hughes and went unbeaten in another 12 fights after losing to Hughes. 8 finishes in 9 title fight wins is probably the highest finish percentage (of wins) ever.

Matt Hughes as a fighter is actually massively under rated in my opinion. People who were talking about Usman or Woodley above Matt as #2 WW of all time should be laughed at.

Title fight finishes
Hughes 8*, Usman 3, Woodley 2.

(Plus also R1 finished Royce and Riggs as champ)

Title fight wins

Hughes 9,Usman 6, Woodley 4

# of unique opponents beaten in title fights:

Hughes 7, Usman 3, Woodley 4


having said all that in support of why Matt deserves high praise and recognition as a fighter, in his book he brags about animal abuse and sexual assault/date rape.

As I recall he expressed no remorse and made no apologies for these actions in the book.

So when people speak about Matt as a person and his actions which he CHOSE to make public, those opinions are firmly rooted in facts.
What page is the quote from his book?
 
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