MW changing of the guard

[BowserJr]

This maybe what we're witnessing

Rob, Izzy, Jared, Vetorri, Costa

None of these guys look the same anymore. You can throw Brunson in there too.

For Costa he spent most of the time on Twitter/sidelines when he could've been on top or near the top.

Vetorri has only gotten worked by Rob and Jared and they're not looking so good. Rob has looked the best but he hasn't faced the top newer guys. Ikram is still kind of green. Even Chimaev is t really a new prospect anymore.

What say you, Sherbros?

Are these guys old news now?

 

[Substance Abuse]

Cannonier is 40. Whittaker is 33 and 33 fights deep with a history of injuries. Adesanya has 114 fights over three sports and is 35. Vetorri was never that great and is coming off absorbing the most strikes in Middleweight history without being finished. Costa, don't get me started. Yes, the old guard is aging out. Is normal.

 

[Tweak896]

Vettori: Has been 2-3 since 2021 only beating Dolidze and Costa (another overrated guy), every single fight a decision since Covid.

Costa: 1-4 since 2019 and only beat Rockhold (retired fighter). How does a guy like this stay ranked?

Cannonier: 4-4 since 2020 and 40 years old. Has mostly kept a point fighting style, but people were ironically trying to give him another title shot within the last year despite his last showing with Izzy.

Whittaker: Well hard to say too much he isn't as bad as everyone else, but is still 3-3 since 2020 only beating Cannonier (old), Costa(loser), Gastelum(ww), Vettori(loser), and Ikram(noob). Losing to both champs.

These guys all have been clogging up the MW rankings. Now we have Strickland changing from being active to acting like Colby as #1 contender waiting. I can't wait for new blood to kick these old names down. Caio, Khamzat, Allen, Imavov, Pereira will all have better records then these guys in the future at MW.

 

[Dim1]

Too early to say Whittaker is washed. He's a tad small for 185 which I believe keeps him from the belt.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

I can feel it.
And honestly I’m here for it. Middleweight needs a little life breathed into it. The UFC tried to market the Adesanya run as some kind of Diet Silva domination, it was stagnant. Now we got new contenders emerging everyday.

 

[TheBulge]

For the most part these guys have all fought eachother, we pretty much know exactly how good all of them are. They are a part of an era/history and did their part and should be proud.

I did not expect however that Whittaker would hold on the longest though. He has more left in the tank than his peers imo.

 

[ultra321]

Diet Silva

BAHAHAHAHA

 

[blaseblase]

When did Costa ever look good apart from the Romero fight? That was 5 years ago. He's coasted off being a good looking muscular dude ever since. The loss to Vettori should have been it for him as a contender. It made absolutely no sense to give him a co-main against Strickland.

Vettori looks the same as aways, a decent not great fighter.

 

[Dr Fong]

Vettori: Has been 2-3 since 2021 only beating Dolidze and Costa (another overrated guy), every single fight a decision since Covid.

Costa: 1-4 since 2019 and only beat Rockhold (retired fighter). How does a guy like this stay ranked?

Cannonier: 4-4 since 2020 and 40 years old. Has mostly kept a point fighting style, but people were ironically trying to give him another title shot within the last year despite his last showing with Izzy.

Whittaker: Well hard to say too much he isn't as bad as everyone else, but is still 3-3 since 2020 only beating Cannonier, Gastelum, Vettori, and Ikram. Losing to both champs.

These guys all have been clogging up the MW rankings. Now we have Strickland changing from being active to acting like Colby as #1 contender waiting. I can't wait for new blood to kick these old names down. Caio, Khamzat, Allen, Imavov, Pereira will all have better records then these guys in the future at MW.

I like how you managed to list off four wins for Whittaker and still come to the conclusion that he is 3-3 since 2020 - he's actually 6-2 since 2020.

 

[StonedLemur]

Cannonier is 40. Whittaker is 33 and 33 fights deep with a history of injuries. Adesanya has 114 fights over three sports and is 35. Vetorri was never that great and is coming off absorbing the most strikes in Middleweight history without being finished. Costa, don't get me started. Yes, the old guard is aging out. Is normal.

Very succinct sir.

 

[Tweak896]

I like how you managed to list off four wins for Whittaker and still come to the conclusion that he is 3-3 since 2020 - he's actually 6-2 since 2020.

I'll admit Whittaker was the hardest to downplay. I am measuring his record from October 25th until today to paint it as bad as possible. I still think many at MW were overrated for awhile.

 

[CieloLuce]

It's always cool to see a changing of the guard. The fact at 40yr Cannonier looked competitive in those 2.5 rounds says a lot about his training and discipline.

 

[DoctorStoppage]

I’m glad, not a great era outside of Rob (who isn’t really from this era)

 

[BJJ4Tone]

This maybe what we're witnessing

Rob, Izzy, Jared, Vetorri, Costa

None of these guys look the same anymore. You can throw Brunson in there too.

For Costa he spent most of the time on Twitter/sidelines when he could've been on top or near the top.

Vetorri has only gotten worked by Rob and Jared and they're not looking so good. Rob has looked the best but he hasn't faced the top newer guys. Ikram is still kind of green. Even Chimaev is t really a new prospect anymore.

What say you, Sherbros?

Are these guys old news now?

Seems like it.
Time for Vitor to make his comeback. See what the Old Lion/Young Dinosaur has in store for his next iteration. Maybe come back as Victor Gracie.

 

[PrideNverDies]

Are guys like Allen/Pyfer/Reese really better though? I think even Strickland whoops them

 

[BowserJr]

Are guys like Allen/Pyfer/Reese really better though? I think even Strickland whoops them

Strickland is part of the new era top guys... it's like when machida, weidman, romero, rockhold, jacare, vitor started losing. They just had too many miles and guys like Izzy, Jared, Whitaker, Costa where good and nit that damaged

 

[davidlemonparty]

I'll admit Whittaker was the hardest to downplay. I am measuring his record from October 25th until today to paint it as bad as possible. I still think many at MW were overrated for awhile.

You've just greatly devalued your entire thread and credibility

 

[Koro_11]

When did Costa ever look good apart from the Romero fight? That was 5 years ago. He's coasted off being a good looking muscular dude ever since. The loss to Vettori should have been it for him as a contender. It made absolutely no sense to give him a co-main against Strickland.

Vettori looks the same as aways, a decent not great fighter.

To be fair aside from the Izzy fight he’s not looking bad either, I mean he’s having competitive fights vs the top guys in his division, no one is styling on him or finishing him.

No he’s not the world beater some were predicting him to be, but he’s a tough fight for anyone and beats just about everyone outside the top 5.

Also he’s somewhat of a draw due to his physique, look and personality so he will continue to get fights, I don’t recall him having too many boring ones, except vs Strickland who makes every fight boring except when he’s eating that Poatan hook.

 

[El Panteron]

You've just greatly devalued your entire thread and credibility

I mean did he really need to spell out for you he was deliberately downplaying them?

 

[gentel]

Cannonier: 4-4 since 2020 and 40 years old. Has mostly kept a point fighting style, but people were ironically trying to give him another title shot within the last year despite his last showing with Izzy.

I think another title shot versus Strickland or DDP would've been fine - he just put on one of the best fights of the year vs Borralho and he beat Strickland which Izzy couldn't do