Social Musk becomes largest shareholder of twitter

I think you're combining two different arguments to make one point. For example, in your original post, you had these:




But in the middle of that post, you had this:



This reads to me as two completely different things. The former, I think is the actual discussion worth having. I'd argue approval ratings, civilian polling, etc, highly matters and gives a good pulse on the standing of the citizens during the time (like for example Obama polling incredibly high at numerous points, Bush tanking after the war push dropped, etc). I think this is exactly how democracy should work, where the voters vote, and their voices dictate the outcomes, for better or worse. That way you have policy impacted at the federal level in total, but also the local levels more individually because needs are different, and then the voiced population to express their satisfaction or disapproval.

But that's a very different argument than population count per area. Pretty much every state in the country has left or right lean depending on location, but I don't think 5 year olds or non-voters should be factored in to make a case on numbers, and I think independent voters have a much higher importance in many states that are closer to 50/50 than Alabama or California. I wouldn't consider a base total count problematic at all, because it would be almost like saying 4 states should decide what the other 46 do for a different argument due to their population size and who wins rather than the individual counts of the voters. If that makes sense.
i was making 2 points.

1: dumbass was crying that Biden's low approval rating and how that somehow means we aren't a democratic country, or for the people by the people. This is laughable as this same dumbass was probably cheering on trump when his approval rating was in the toilet. not to mention that approval rating at one point in time does not change the way our democracy is administrated.

2: Looping back to dumbasses fears that the country is not for the people by the people i provided an actual issue that meets his fears: minority parties having majority rule, and a major imbalance of power regarding "the people" and who rules them. Look at Ohio, for example. The People of Ohio voted to end gerrymandering in the state. The GOP won't provide districting that is free of gerrymandering because the GOP, in undemocratic fashion which is now fashionable within the GOP, will lose seats to democrats. The Ohio GOP has about 55% of the vote yet controls 70-80% of the seats. This is exactly the problem Dumbass was describing but he's too partisan and stupid to realize it. A low opinion poll doesn't equal a breakdown of representational government. The ohio example does. And what happens in Ohio is happening all over.
 
None of the numbers matter look at it on YouTube vs other cars from a stop, roll, whatever, it's not close unless the other car has 1,000+ hp. Gt2 is also almost double the cost of a plaid
It matters because over 2 seconds 0-60 doesn't look as stunning as sub 2 seconds. It matters because when companies make misleading claims - torque and acceleration in this case - they should be called out on it.

Ofcourse the Plaid beats virtually every car but the quarter mile acceleration is just one factor. Americans tend to be enthralled with the quarter mile while Euros tend to prefer handling.
 
Ya he absolutely can draw margin against his Tesla stock.

In a diverse mostly blue chip portfolio you can get up to 50% margin against the stock value of the holdings.

Against very concentrated portfolio's, especially with ones with high volatility like Tesla, he would get at most 25% and likely closer to 15% to ensure there was room for swings without margin calls.

But even at 15%, that still gives him $20B in margin room.
One of my accounts I only use for trading is a margin account and you are exactly right. I’m not a big Elon lover like some people here but I can see the good he does and also criticize the shady shit he’s done and the wrist slap punishments he’s received. I’m curious how all this unfolds but regardless of outcome Elon knows how to play the PR game better than any other billionaire.
 
Lol at some people here aligning with Putin like thinking of censoring your opposition like Twitter does now.
 
this was being talked about yesterday, so Musk must have at least anticipated this potential move. He says he has multiple options, so i am very curious with the incoming response

as per CNBC:

Twitter adopted a limited duration shareholder rights plan, often called a “poison pill,” a day after billionaire Elon Musk offered to buy the company for $43 billion, the company announced Friday.

The board voted unanimously to adopt the plan.


Under the new structure, if any person or group acquires beneficial ownership of at least 15% of Twitter’s outstanding common stock without the board’s approval, other shareholders will be allowed to purchase additional shares at a discount.

The plan is set to expire on April 14, 2023.

Such a move is a common way to fend off a potential hostile takeover by diluting the stake of the entity eying the takeover.


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/15/twi...er-musks-43-billion-offer-to-buy-company.html



 


This circles back to the socialist and communist lable debate as well, with Black Rock. I posted this last year in regards to people melting down over MTG using the socialist lable too. I edited it down, but it links back to the post if you want to read their entirety. Keep in mind, blackrock people are in the Biden admin. This issue with black rock, it shows how the reference to socialism/communism works. They, in collusion with the government are buying up all the houses, jacking up the prices so people cannot afford them, creating a nation of renters. Then it comes down to here is a house, provided by the establishment in connection with government, you take it and can't do anything to it and if you don't like it too bad, you're too poor to buy one on your own.

Oh, and the same people control twitter and censor things like Hunter Biden, push other narratives, etc

It is clear what MTG is framing. Similarly to how Venezuela, while labled as socialism, did the same thing, and within a decade or two, turned to utter shit, except for the ruling class. That coincides with firms like BlackRock where they CEO's become advisers to the government, and Amazon getting advisory positions, etc. So while it is a private company doing this, based on their connections to the administration, and how the admin gives tax breaks, bailouts, etc.. it is basically the government/ruling class owning it all.

Dunno how anyone could not understand her point, given the context of the history of communist and socialist countries.

It would benefit Firms like Blackrock who are investing in tons of residential properties at this time to rent out.


You even have media like bloomberg even pushing for us to be a rent based society https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-06-17/america-should-become-a-nation-of-renters

America Should Become a Nation of Renters

Then you see moves like this:

As per CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/02/business/family-homes-wall-street/index.html

Wall Street is buying up family homes. The rent checks are too juicy to ignore






 
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Guess we'll see what plan B is. Fuk it he should dump the stock.
 
Lol, if Musk really does end up buying Twitter I can’t wait for the “5 stages of grief” from certain people on here, it will be glorious to witness. Mainstream media must know something we don’t, because they’re already in the denial phase. <Lmaoo>
Lol , I am waiting for the mental gymnastic routines when thin skinned Elon , bans someone for hurting his feelings. Its going to happen, because Elon has a history of being sensitive.
Hell Elon blocks posters now for asking legitimate questions or bringing up legitimate points.
If he blocked someone for threatening his family, him or posting pictures of their poo, I would give him a pass for the blocking but when they ask questions about how Tesla treats their employees, Elon melts and blocks then, I know the ones thinking Elon is going to keep Twitter from regulating content are what Frank Reynolds calls a Dupee.
Honestly I only come to the War Room for the mental contortion routines.
 
it is amazing to see the liberals go to bat for the wallstreet bankers who don't pay their fair share of taxes, that they hate so much. This is just an extension of the mass formation psychosis that is #blueAnon. It supports the notion that twitter has been used to psy-op control them for years now.
I guess your done posting sketchy twitter accounts about supposed voter fraud.
Was Bidens latest and 6th win in Arizona the final straw for you.
I miss you quoting some crazy ass twitter post as some sort of fact of voter fraud.
I guess you want Sherdog to pretend you were not this guy, when it came to voter fraud.
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Hes just going to expose them now. What he doesn't understand is the Twitter is a arm of the US government and there's no way they will let this happen no matter the price.
 
I think Musk is 90% conman but he has handled this whole twitter situation with surprising cleverness. There is basically no way for the twitter board to refuse the deal without destroying their fiduciary responsibility, and even if they do sour the deal Musk can dump his shares and tank the value.

Credit where it is due, this is top tier gamesmanship by Musk.
 
the left loves the saudis all of a sudden.

The left doesn't care about maintaining a moral belief system, only about stacking up as many victories as possible, no matter how small. That's why when twitter bans people it doesn't like, all you'll hear is 'twitter is a private company, it can do whatever it likes'. Suddenly that'll go out the window when the people who run twitter don't share their politics.
 
Was reading that twitter very well could have some activities to hide from Americans, information that Elon would bring to light that many Democrats want kept hidden.

Has Elon Musk stumbled into some scandalous truths about Twitter?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...nge_reaction_to_his_twitter_buyout_offer.html

excerpt:

....What Musk seems to have stumbled upon is the argument that Twitter's servers may well be owned by various governments, maybe the Saudis, but almost certainly the U.S. government.

This analysis by Sundance at Conservative Treehouse, who knows tech, points to the oddities:

What Elon Musk appears to be doing is perhaps the biggest story that few understand.

I share this perspective having spent thousands of hours in the past several years deep in the weeds of tech operating systems, communication platforms, and the issue of simultaneous users. What Twitter represents, and what Musk is attempting, is not what most would think.

In the big picture of tech platforms, Twitter, as an operating model, is a massive high-user commenting system.

Twitter is not a platform built around a website; Twitter is a platform for comments and discussion that operates in the sphere of social media. As a consequence, the technology and data processing required to operate the platform does not have an economy of scale.

There is no business model where Twitter is financially viable to operate…. UNLESS the tech architecture under the platform was subsidized.

In my opinion, there is only one technological system and entity that could possibly underwrite the cost of Twitter to operate. That entity is the United States Government, and here’s why.

Sundance cites the monster data usage the system requires, with no economy of scale -- each new user adds costs, which Twitter seems impervious to. As its user base stagnates, it still makes money, because it avoids those costs. Musk noted the oddity of huge accounts with millions of followers who rarely tweet, asking if the website was "dead," which was a reasonable question, given the previous understanding of Twitter as an entity that makes money based on users to advertise to. This dynamic involving the federal government certainly would explain the absence of rivals to the company -- and perhaps the difficulties that Truth Social has had in scaling its operations. (I just got onto Truth Social this week after a long stretch on the 'waiting list.')

The other potential problem was brought up by Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton:



They've testified again and again and again before Congress that they never censor conservative users -- with this kind of tripe:

Twitter isn’t swayed by political biases when making critical decisions, according to prepared remarks from CEO Jack Dorsey on Tuesday, one day before he’s set to testify in front of Congress.

“Let me be clear about one important and foundational fact: Twitter does not use political ideology to make any decisions, whether related to ranking content on our service or how we enforce our rules,” Dorsey said.

His remarks were posted by the House Committee on Energy and Commerce on Tuesday. Dorsey will address the committee, as well as the Senate alongside Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, on Wednesday. He’s expected to weigh in on recent claims Twitter that shadow-bans prominent conservative voices and is driven by left-leaning ideals.

“We believe strongly in being impartial, and we strive to enforce our rules impartially. We do not shadowban anyone based on political ideology,” Dorsey continued. “In fact, from a simple business perspective and to serve the public conversation, Twitter is incentivized to keep all voices on the platform.”

...and...

He argued it wouldn’t make business sense for Twitter to jettison large swaths of Republicans, viewing the platform as a new-age “public square” where almost anything should be allowed to be said. “Impartiality is our guiding principle,” Dorsey added.

Nevertheless, there are "mistakes," lots of "mistakes":

When asked why Twitter suspended conservative commentator Candace Owens for mimicking New York Times reporter Sarah Jeong’s contentious tweets, including “cancel white people,” Dorsey said it was a “mistake.”

Plus the odd 'total mistake':

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey said Thursday it was a 'total mistake' for The New York Post to be locked out of its Twitter account for tweets sharing the newspaper's report on Hunter Biden's emails.

'We made a total mistake with the New York Post, we corrected that within 24 hours,' Dorsey told House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, who had asked about that example. 'It was not to do with the content, it had to do with a hacked materials policy, we had an incorrect interpretation,' Dorsey added.

In this sense, they top the tobacco barons of yesteryear who declared under oath before Congress around 1994 to some Democrat show hearing that nicotine was not addictive.

Musk may well find out the truth of Twitter's claims to probity, too -- which would end the nonsense right there, and could, of course, expose Twitter to shareholder lawsuits as any corporate lie to the public would.

The other thing he may expose is scarier:

Twitter shut down the president of the United States, which if it's controlled by the government, while the elites take the profits, it means the government itself shut Trump down. What would be the implications of that, and how the heck could this scandal be corrected? It would show the extent of the rot of the deep state that an entity so closely connected to the federal government could carry out that kind of coup. And that presents a Constitutional crisis. This kind of third-world behavior would have to be exposed by Musk -- and Congress would need to stop it.
 
I am curious how many lawsuits are coming against the Twitter board. If I could sell my stocks for a 20% profit and the board is stopping me.... we are going to have a problem... and a lawsuit.

This is starting to reek of something really dirty. Is the Twitter board fearful of Elon getting the algorithms used during the last election cycle and making them public? Or perhaps more of the communications between Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube that all colluded during the election cycle?

The stock market is closed today for Good Friday. If this remains the status quo come Monday, I smell a big sell off of Twitter. How is the board going to explain that to the shareholders that could have all logged at least a 20% profit?
 
I am curious how many lawsuits are coming against the Twitter board. If I could sell my stocks for a 20% profit and the board is stopping me.... we are going to have a problem... and a lawsuit.

This is starting to reek of something really dirty. Is the Twitter board fearful of Elon getting the algorithms used during the last election cycle and making them public? Or perhaps more of the communications between Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube that all colluded during the election cycle?

The stock market is closed today for Good Friday. If this remains the status quo come Monday, I smell a big sell off of Twitter. How is the board going to explain that to the shareholders that could have all logged at least a 20% profit?
Its a simple on Twitters part, they dont have the number of users they say they do. I bet 25% or more are bots. Those user numbers are used to charge for ad rates.
Trump lost get over it.
Smart on Elons part if Twitter does not call his bluff. The Dupee's will think he is some sort of hero while forwarding the message that some billionaire is the Saviour for Joe Six Pack. He buys it out right, he could lose a ton of money. 90%+/- of Twitters revenue stream is advertisement, he pisses them off, then he has trouble making money.
Also the stock should move on this offer, if they dont call his bluff, he can cash out, with a nice profit and this time the SEC wont be on his ass, because its all legal.
I do like his play, but not for one minute do I think a dude as thin skinned as Elon, is going to open Twitter up.

Forgot to add, if they dont accept his offer, he might then go over to Truth Social, and pull the same routine. I might be willing to gamble a couple grand on that stock.
Just make money off of Elon's pumps. Did it with Doge.
 
It matters because over 2 seconds 0-60 doesn't look as stunning as sub 2 seconds. It matters because when companies make misleading claims - torque and acceleration in this case - they should be called out on it.

Ofcourse the Plaid beats virtually every car but the quarter mile acceleration is just one factor. Americans tend to be enthralled with the quarter mile while Euros tend to prefer handling.
Ok so what Euro car in that price range matches it in handling? Audi R8 etron is 39 seconds slower than a plaid around the ring. BMW i8 49 seconds slower and both cost more lol. Dat euro handling brah

Also not talking about quarter mile, quarter mile is not even fair nobody tests vs a plaid in quarter. I'm talking 0 to 200 mph or rolling starts from 60mph to 200 because again from zero nothing can keep remotely close to a plaid unless it is a built drag car
 
I hope Elon sells it when the market re-opn
Its a simple on Twitters part, they dont have the number of users they say they do. I bet 25% or more are bots. Those user numbers are used to charge for ad rates.
Trump lost get over it.
Smart on Elons part if Twitter does not call his bluff. The Dupee's will think he is some sort of hero while forwarding the message that some billionaire is the Saviour for Joe Six Pack. He buys it out right, he could lose a ton of money. 90%+/- of Twitters revenue stream is advertisement, he pisses them off, then he has trouble making money.
Also the stock should move on this offer, if they dont call his bluff, he can cash out, with a nice profit and this time the SEC wont be on his ass, because its all legal.
I do like his play, but not for one minute do I think a dude as thin skinned as Elon, is going to open Twitter up.

Forgot to add, if they dont accept his offer, he might then go over to Truth Social, and pull the same routine. I might be willing to gamble a couple grand on that stock.
Just make money off of Elon's pumps. Did it with Doge.

I think you are actually right. In this instance, not winning (Elon) is the big win for him. He cashes out big, is a "folk hero", and can move on to his next play while Twitter circles the toilet behind him and those that opposed him are going to look stupid. If he wins, then he must execute and make it successful. Twitter is a shit format that is really made for the public personalities, not the common man/woman. I wouldn't want it.
 
I am curious how many lawsuits are coming against the Twitter board. If I could sell my stocks for a 20% profit and the board is stopping me.... we are going to have a problem... and a lawsuit.

This is starting to reek of something really dirty. Is the Twitter board fearful of Elon getting the algorithms used during the last election cycle and making them public? Or perhaps more of the communications between Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube that all colluded during the election cycle?

The stock market is closed today for Good Friday. If this remains the status quo come Monday, I smell a big sell off of Twitter. How is the board going to explain that to the shareholders that could have all logged at least a 20% profit?

I’m curious how much historical data will still be there if he takes over. I doubt they wouldn’t burn it all, sort to speak, before he gets the keys.
 
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