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International Multiple Stabbing Victims at UK Children's Club UPDATE: 17 Year Old Boy Arrested, Not Treated as Terror Related

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Rob Battisti said:
Yes. That is what statistics are…
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Yet somehow, people quoting the statistics (probably having not read them, or having any kind of stats background whatsoever) are completely wrong in this case. Any many others.

Using past events to predict future ones is obviously incredibly dumb.

The argument you seem to be deploying is, that it doesn't matter that people speculating are wrong on the facts. Because they could have been right. So therefore they have no obligation to either retract their guesses, nor wait for specific facts before they spout off in future.

It's actually the people who call them out that are the ones who are wrong, because statistics.
 
FIMN said:
Yet somehow, people quoting the statistics (probably having not read them, or having any kind of stats background whatsoever) are completely wrong in this case. Any many others.

Using past events to predict future ones is obviously incredibly dumb.

The argument you seem to be deploying is, that it doesn't matter that people speculating are wrong on the facts. Because they could have been right. So therefore they have no obligation to either retract their guesses, nor wait for specific facts before they spout off in future.

It's actually the people who call them out that are the ones who are wrong, because statistics.
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It’s not incredibly dumb. It’s literally the only and best indicator to predict anything.

If the only information you have is “mass stabbing in the UK” you can use that to form a hypothesis on the perpetrator based on statistics.

If you get new information like “country of origin”, you can then use the information to form a new hypothesis.

It only becomes “dumb” if you ignore new information. It’s sincerely dumb if you think statistics aren’t the best indicator of forming a hypothesis.
 
Rob Battisti said:
It’s not incredibly dumb. It’s literally the only and best indicator to predict anything.

If the only information you have is “mass stabbing in the UK” you can use that to form a hypothesis on the perpetrator based on statistics.

If you get new information like “country of origin”, you can then use the information to form a new hypothesis.

It only becomes “dumb” if you ignore new information. It’s sincerely dumb if you think statistics aren’t the best indicator of forming a hypothesis.
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Unless you're conducting the police investigation why do you need to form a hypothesis at all?
 
Rob Battisti said:
It’s not incredibly dumb. It’s literally the only and best indicator to predict anything.

If the only information you have is “mass stabbing in the UK” you can use that to form a hypothesis on the perpetrator based on statistics.

If you get new information like “country of origin”, you can then use the information to form a new hypothesis.

It only becomes “dumb” if you ignore new information. It’s sincerely dumb if you think statistics aren’t the best indicator of forming a hypothesis.
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It's only a good indicator when predicting something if you have any understanding of statistics. Statistically I won't get cancer cos I've never had it. And Elon Musk and I have an average wealth of billions of dollars. Both statistically true but neither meaningful or corresponding with reality.

If you think people in this thread, much like in the Brisbane thread, start spouting off about how Muslims always do X and Y and actually coming up with a hypothesis like they are engaging in some kind of scientific prediction, as opposed to people who are dumb as rocks generally and demonstrably wrong in this case, then you feel free to believe that.

After all, statistics are reality and they are only using statistics.
 
Croo67 said:
UK law states that a suspect under the age of 18 can be named under exceptional circumstances and if it is in the interest of the public.

Surely this incident falls into that category?
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Does the same rule/law to White British/Londoners youth?
 
Croo67 said:
Did those instances result in large scale unrest?

They could instantly nip this in the bud by naming the Welshman.
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He isn't a Welsh man by any stretch of the imagination that's why. Briefly lived in Wales when he first arrived as a refugee or immigrant. Rwandan is interesting because the name I've seen is definitely Arabic/Islamic and that's rare in Rwanda.

This is one of the most heinous things I've ever heard of though. How can they rule out a terrorist motive when the guy has deliberately got a taxi to a location and solely attacked/killed while people? Even if it wasn't religiously motivated, it was 200% targeted at a specific group of people.

Things are gonna get far worse over here. Won't be long before right wing white psychos are enacting revenge with suicidal attacks on mosques etc.
 
GoldenWolf87 said:


Leftist in UK.
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The Attackers racism is fine though. Attacking innocent people because you associate them with something you hate........hmmmm......I mean its not like this riot way instigated by someone doing exactly that to FUCKING YOUNG GIRLS. Children.
 
The_Renaissance said:
He isn't a Welsh man by any stretch of the imagination that's why. Briefly lived in Wales when he first arrived as a refugee or immigrant. Rwandan is interesting because the name I've seen is definitely Arabic/Islamic and that's rare in Rwanda.

This is one of the most heinous things I've ever heard of though. How can they rule out a terrorist motive when the guy has deliberately got a taxi to a location and solely attacked/killed while people? Even if it wasn't religiously motivated, it was 200% targeted at a specific group of people.

Things are gonna get far worse over here. Won't be long before right wing white psychos are enacting revenge with suicidal attacks on mosques etc.
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That's what I'm getting at.

They can say what they want publicly, they'll just later say it was to keep the peace or to aid their investigation.
 
The_Renaissance said:
He isn't a Welsh man by any stretch of the imagination that's why. Briefly lived in Wales when he first arrived as a refugee or immigrant. Rwandan is interesting because the name I've seen is definitely Arabic/Islamic and that's rare in Rwanda.

This is one of the most heinous things I've ever heard of though. How can they rule out a terrorist motive when the guy has deliberately got a taxi to a location and solely attacked/killed while people? Even if it wasn't religiously motivated, it was 200% targeted at a specific group of people.

Things are gonna get far worse over here. Won't be long before right wing white psychos are enacting revenge with suicidal attacks on mosques etc.
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unfortunately you are right and the left problem is they want this to be blamed on Whites/Racism etc while ignoring that there are issues with the way the west/ Europe is handling immigration and unfortunately.

Europe is allowing in to many migrants without proper vetting.
Many are coming into Europe with fake documents.

The other problem is well.
Britain had a "Right Wing Govt" they completely ignored the immigration issue which was a key issue that they were supported in about.
 
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So am I reading this correctly that the perp wasn't a Muslim?
 
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