Mueller's Patton the back (investigation thread v. 22)

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Bobby 3 Sticks said:
Funny cause most of the responses I gave to your Derschowitz shit you stopped responding to. Derschowitz legal arguments regarding tRUmp are mostly trash.

And no, the propaganda I talked about is actually true backed by facts from history.
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Yes, but now they have alternative facts
 
waiguoren said:
Where is this all headed?
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Have a look around sometime...again, you'll simply disappear when whatever happens happens so why prognosticate?

What will happen will happen. My opinion or your owned be damned.
 
andnowweknow said:
Have a look around sometime...again, you'll simply disappear when whatever happens happens so why prognosticate?
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lol!

So something is obviously going to happen, and you're sure of what it is, but you won't say what it is because I'm going to disappear when it happens?

That makes no sense. Sounds to me like someone is a little unsure of himself.
 
computer fogie said:
Is the investigation over, or is it closing in on Trump?
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It is most certainly not closing in on Trump.

Let’s revisit reality, shall we?

Trump, the gentleman who is not the target of the investigation, who Meuller already stated he won’t indict, who will be submitting answers in writing, is winning.
 
Exclusive: FBI Kept From U.S. Spy Court Russian View of Carter Page as 'an Idiot'

By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations

September 06, 2018

The FBI omitted from its application to spy on Carter Page the fact that Russian spies had dismissed the former Trump campaign adviser as unreliable – or as one put it, an “idiot” – and therefore unworthy of recruiting, according to congressional sources who have seen the unredacted document.

The potentially exculpatory detail was also withheld from three renewals of the wiretap warrant before a special government surveillance court. The warrants issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court allowed the FBI to spy on Page and others he was in contact with for almost a year, the sources also confirmed.

The FBI was aware of Russians’ skepticism that Page knew anything of value or was a significant player because the bureau had recorded them voicing such doubts in a wiretap, from an earlier espionage case involving three Russian spies working undercover for the Kremlin in New York.

The FBI cited that 2013 case, minus the disparagement of Page, in its applications to the FISA court. They have been made public only in redacted form, professing evidence that Page was “recruited" by Russian intelligence and had "coordinated" with the Russian government. But “that’s a mischaracterization of the facts in the case,” a congressional source said.

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https://www.realclearinvestigations...fisa_court_russian_view_of_page_as_idiot.html
 
bobgeese said:
Except that the “death blow” to Trump was about the most valuable thing on earth for the last couple years.

If the republicans/media/thefuckingclintonmachine couldn’t find it, it doesn’t exist.

.<TheDonald>
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That's brilliant. We obviously have the wrong Bob running the investigation. :p
 
waiguoren said:
Ouch, you just reposted fake news. Worse, it's a Hillary Clinton talking point.

We have 17 intelligence agencies, and

New York Times: The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/pageoneplus/corrections-june-29-2017.html?_r=0


Also, if you're one of those MURICA! guys that believes everything the intelligence agencies tell you, you're part of the problem. Please read up on the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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Except there's actual proof that the Russians interfered in our elections.
 
bobgeese said:
It is most certainly not closing in on Trump.

Let’s revisit reality, shall we?

Trump, the gentleman who is not the target of the investigation, who Meuller already stated he won’t indict, who will be submitting answers in writing, is winning.
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Winning until you're not. :D

 
LangfordBarrow said:
Except there's actual proof that the Russians interfered in our elections.
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So the "actual proof" is that the CIA/FBI/NSA/DNI say so, plus a Senate committee that didn't do an independent investigation. My point is that this standard is really no different from the standard used to invade Iraq.

To call this "actual proof", as you did, involves a suspension of disbelief. It's evidence, sure, but not "proof". Convincing old John Podesta to click a phishing link doesn't strike me as something that high-level Russian hackers are needed for.

Also, are you man enough to admit you were wrong to say that the intelligence agencies "unanimously found" that Russia hacked the DNC server? Most of the intelligence agencies didn't even study this issue.
 
waiguoren said:
So the "actual proof" is that the CIA/FBI/NSA/DNI say so, plus a Senate committee that didn't do an independent investigation. My point is that this standard is really no different from the standard used to invade Iraq.

To call this "actual proof", as you did, involves a suspension of disbelief. It's evidence, sure, but not "proof". Convincing old John Podesta to click a phishing link doesn't strike me as something that high-level Russian hackers are needed for.

Also, are you man enough to admit you were wrong to say that the intelligence agencies "unanimously found" that Russia hacked the DNC server? Most of the intelligence agencies didn't even study this issue.
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Yes, I don't have a problem admitting when I'm wrong or apologizing, and in this case that does appear to be the case. However, there are no credible sources that cite someone other than the Russians having perpetrated this attack, and our relevant intelligence agencies all state that it was them. We were deceived about Saddam having WMDs in Iraq and after a year of investigating nothing was found. In this case though after a year of investigating we had more than a dozen Russian operatives indicted as well as another more than a dozen indictments handed out during the course of the probe including to high level members of Trump's campaign or administration.
 
waiguoren said:
That makes no sense. Sounds to me like someone is a little unsure of himself.
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The report hasn't come out dummy. Nobody is sure of anything. If you think all this is looking rosy for Trump, have at it. Like I said, there is no end game in any of this for you. You'll just disappear if Trump goes down in flames, which nobody should really care about either.
 
cincymma79 said:
tin foil hat
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Junior is fucked. Even if the Russians really did bait and switch he still took a meeting that in his mind was sponsored by the Russian government. Are you guys man enough to admit that?
 
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