Most Overrated "Great" Movies

[minute bull]

I've noticed the dialog style in all of his works. I haven't thought through exactly what it is but one of the features is that short lines are directly repeated back to back. One actor says something and another repeats the line and adds something to it or the same character says the same line back to back. I think, in general, the style stands out because I've never heard real life conversations done that way. It just hit me, maybe I'm wrong, but it might be like the Hemingway short story Hills Like White Elephants. Anyway, I don't like the dialog style but I like his movies.

It took me a while to love his dialogue, but now I do appreciate the short clipped poetry of it. He uses a metronome to time out not only the delivery but the pauses between deliveries, between actors. Hemingway is a good analogy for his muscular, masculine writing -- but Hemingway is also easier to read than Mamet is to hear, just like most concepts are easier sold in books than in film.

What makes both Mamet and Hemingway so effective is not one word is wasted. Everything means something vital to the story, character, or theme. Their words are pregnant with purpose in a way few other writers are.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Yup Once Upon a Time in America is extremely boring.

Lost in Translation was hideous

 

[blitzk]

Godfather I. I don't list II and III cause they get a lot of hate but I is widely praised.
Apocalypse Now.
Avatar.
Titanic. Other than the huge and expensive production, the script, acting and everything else is cheesy and stupid.
Scarface. entertaining but laughable.

I disagree with The Departed, I think it's a very good movie.

 

[djacobox372]

To most people in this thread: admitting you have bad taste doesn't make you cool..

 

[Liquid Smoke]

Can't stand The Deer Hunter. First part of the movie ain't bad, when they show life in that small town and DeNiro rips Cazale for forgetting his boots (we all got a buddy that doesn't pull his weight). But what's up with Walken becoming a professional Russian Roulette player?

 

[Liquid Smoke]

To most people in this thread: admitting you have bad taste doesn't make you cool..

Not everyone likes everything. Just because something is generally revered doesn't mean it's beyond criticism.

 

[Trotsky]

Mel Gibson is a great director and actor. Then Clooney kinda replaced him as he's been aging out and making an anti-semite ass out of himself, but he's nowhere near as a good a director. Loves Jews tho, so....

Yeah, I mean George Clooney is pretty objectively a much more talented and charismatic actor in my opinion. And Passion of the Christ was, like most any passion play, an exploitative exhibitionist drag. But I was very impressed with his prowess as a director in Hacksaw.

Gangs of New York, unwatchable.

After hearing about how great it was, I felt like I was taking crazy pills as I watched it. Even towards the end of the first viewing, I was fast forwarding through the non-Bill the Butcher scenes.

I have extreme dislike for Kill Bill and have not tried to watch any Tatantino movies since then. It just seemed like he was under the impression that he could throw any ridiculous shit together and still make it cool somehow. The arrogance of that really rubbed me the wrong way.

I liked all his movies prior to that.

One day I will go back and watch his other movies, but I am still not ready yet.

Haha, I implore you to never go anywhere near a David Lynch film.

Tarantino bugs me because he is a pervert with a foot fetish, which bothers me more than it should. I just paid under $10 for Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and Jackie Brown. I really like Jackie Brown, another heist film. The stuck in the middle with you scene in Reservoir Dogs is one of the most cringe worthy scenes that I can think of.

After Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs is the only Tarantino film I really like. You have to get over a certain level of cheese, but you could put Harvey Keitel in a softcore gay porno and I'd watch because he's just that electric.

What risk? He remade an old movie and did it worse. It's nice how you arbitrary throw around a word like "artistry". Thank you that most people disagree with you and for good reason.

Seriously?

He muddled the moral dichotomy of the original version by turning Gregory Peck into a philandering alcoholic domestic abuser, creating a pedophilic subplot where the 13-year old daughter has a sexual experience with Cady, and paying credence to the actual feelings of betrayal of Cady by Nolty.

Scorsese's version was considerably more layered than the original, or than anything he did after it. I'm sorry that I rustle you though. I get no enjoyment out of it.

 

[Trotsky]

12 Year Slave - boring as fuck
The Dark Knight - it loses steam after repeat viewings
Saving Private Ryan - best war effects. Not the best story. All the characters are cardboard cutouts
Crash - lays it on very thick
All of the Pirate movies - John Depp can suck it
Hobbit movies - terrible
Bridge of Spies - very well shot shit, Spielberg at his worst. Up there with that stupid airport movie
Platoon - not bad but everyone in the movie is one dimensional.

Looking at movies that have won best picture, I think movies are getting more and more stupid. Kramer vs Kramer could never be made today.

Talk about a letdown. I thought the first half of Bridge was brilliant, and then it devolved into formulaic thriller, and Cold War propaganda to boot.

 

[rj144]

It's the ratings of the movie.

Oh what scale? 10? You can't just put random numbers without any explanation on what they are.

3888

 

[minute bull]

Yeah, I mean George Clooney is pretty objectively a much more talented and charismatic actor in my opinion. And Passion of the Christ was, like most any passion play, an exploitative exhibitionist drag. But I was very impressed with his prowess as a director in Hacksaw.

Putting PASSION's passion aside, try out APOCALYPTO for the height of his directorial powers.

As for actor-to-actor, it's interesting you side with Clooney. I like them both, but I would have to say Clooney wouldn't be able to pull off the range of roles Gibson has tackled. I would still classify Mel Gibson as a "movie star," whereas I might reserve for Clooney the status of "leading man," which he does indeed play greatly.

 

[Takes_Two_To_Tango]

Oh what scale? 10? You can't just put random numbers without any explanation on what they are.

3888

Haha sorry it is out of 10.

 

[PubliusVentidius]

''Interstellar'' was awful, it felt like watching a Ron Howard movie set in space, so cheesy and trite, and even the space footage was meh. Last but not least, the soundtrack was probably the most uninspired music Zimmer has ever composed.

 

[DaleBoca]

Godfather I. I don't list II and III cause they get a lot of hate but I is widely praised.
Apocalypse Now.
Avatar.
Titanic. Other than the huge and expensive production, the script, acting and everything else is cheesy and stupid.
Scarface. entertaining but laughable.

I disagree with The Departed, I think it's a very good movie.

Godfather II gets a lot of hate? Since when?

 

[Agent Mulder's Hair]

Django Unchained

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Rosemarys Baby

 

[JSN]

There's something about it that's just off. I can't put my finger on it

I can. Literally everything about it is a steaming pile of shit other than DDL's performance. That's my nuanced critique.

 

[tehend]

Pulp fiction

 

[JSN]

''Interstellar'' was awful, it felt like watching a Ron Howard movie set in space, so cheesy and trite, and even the space footage was meh. Last but not least, the soundtrack was probably the most uninspired music Zimmer has ever composed.

It was uniquely annoying in that Nolan way too in that the soundtrack was way too intense for huge swath of the movie. Crescendi lose their effect without some breathing room and worse just become annoying.

 

[Mike]

The most overrated movies are Watchmen and Oldboy.

 

[CO68]

Seriously?

He muddled the moral dichotomy of the original version by turning Gregory Peck into a philandering alcoholic domestic abuser, creating a pedophilic subplot where the 13-year old daughter has a sexual experience with Cady, and paying credence to the actual feelings of betrayal of Cady by Nolty.

Scorsese's version was considerably more layered than the original, or than anything he did after it. I'm sorry that I rustle you though. I get no enjoyment out of it.

Rustled? LOL. I'm used to shit opinions on movies when it comes to Sherdog. I just find empty, hollow criticisms like yours funny. He remade a movie about a creepy rapist pedo stalking a family and made a movie about a creepy rapist pedo stalking a family. What risks did he take? Turning Cady into an over-the-top super villain who no-sold everything? A risk would have been something like Cady killing his daughter and getting away with it. I don't care that he added unnecessary layers that didn't really add anything to the movie IMO. I prefer the idea of the original of a nice, happy family being preyed upon by a creepy motherfucker instead of an over-the-top Hulk Hogan preying on a family that is already falling apart with a morally flawed father. I like Cape Fear, but it's one of Scorsese's weakest that I've seen. Besides, taking a risk in and of itself doesn't really mean shit.