MMA has pushed me away recently

[Qays Stetkevich]

Last few months have kind of been trash...

Frauds becoming champions,
Broke fighters catching cases over money,
Canceled fights,
Boring fights,
Bad cards,
Uninspiring efforts,

I'm a little burnt out dawg

Anyone with Me?

For me it's the sensory overload: too many fighters (not getting paid enough to boot) on too many cards, and your above-mentioned complaints. I've felt this way more-and-more since the rise of the Conman-blueprint of WWE-style hype and drama. UFC keeps getting less legitimate in my eyes. I still absolutely love the sport and many, many of its fighters though.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

No more Khabib is the worst blow to MMA, IMO.

This guy right here is what is turning me away from mma. Like one guy is bigger than the sport? Forget all the fuckery going on, as long as Khabib was here, it was all good.

Yeah well, Khabib ducked 40 year old GSP. And you miss that guy?

 

[laleggenda27]

Inflated roster + inactive fighters = watered down product. Far too often, I find myself only watching the main event (this past weekend included).

Half the fighters on any given card aren't even UFC-caliber. Guys/gals who belong on the regional circuit somehow find themselves on the ppv main card. And most ranked fighters are more concerned with manipulating their place in the rankings than actually fighting.

If the UFC cut half its roster and required fighters to fight more often (2-3 times per calendar year bare minimum, barring injury), the product would be infinitely better and we would care about the fights and fighters more.

Obviously there are other issues (e.g., fights getting canceled, asinine interim belts, money fights, bad reffing/judging, etc.), but I think this is the biggest problem.

 

[MrCoffee]

Same boat as a lot of posters. I enjoy banter on here more than posting about actual MMA.

Used to watch everything I could. Now, fighters sit out and wait for shots, WMMA is not something I'm interested in. Really. I don't want it eliminated, but I'm just not interested in it at all. Inflated stories and PR...

Meh.

Boxing and Glory are more fun to watch.

 

[imbossing]

Last few months have kind of been trash...

Frauds becoming champions,
Broke fighters catching cases over money,
Canceled fights,
Boring fights,
Bad cards,
Uninspiring efforts,

I'm a little burnt out dawg

Anyone with Me?

Yes same here. Honestly i cant get excited for a card anymore. Specially with wmma. Fuck the commentating bias team
After my friend died i kinda lost the love for ufc. I used to watch wwf and the love for it went away. I wonder if it will happen with mma?

Even sherdog is getting boring for me :/

 

[tech99]

Yup it’s the most boring it’s ever been. There’s an event every week with a bunch of no name jack of all trades fighters who are average at everything and great at nothing. Everyone learns the same foundation now that mma is so mainstream and it results in fighters who are just completely average in every martial art. Nobody does anything cool, nobody takes any risks, just fight not to lose and collect your paycheck.

The commentary team has no chemistry and is extremely unprofessional. I would love an option to turn commentary off because it’s ruining the fights. DC and Rogan are the worst of the bunch and have become unbearable lately.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

Just depends on the card IMO. The fight last weekend I knew not to expect much and there were some good fights. I turned the main fight off cause Gane is boring as hell. Still had fun guys on the card like yancy, fili and jaynes. I would advise starting the card an hour late so you can fast forward through what you dont like.

Talking about the baddest man on the planet (in waiting) like that?

The simpleton fan has no respect for Surreal.

Good riddance, enjoy watching all those exciting action filled Andre Filli fights back.

 

[imbossing]

Just depends on the card IMO. The fight last weekend I knew not to expect much and there were some good fights. I turned the main fight off cause Gane is boring as hell. Still had fun guys on the card like yancy, fili and jaynes. I would advise starting the card an hour late so you can fast forward through what you dont like.

The best shit iv ever heard on here

 

[kingghidrah]

Imagine PFL, Bellator, ONE, Rizin, and ACA existing, and thinking the UFC has world dominance.

The talent distribution in MMA has never been more fragmented between promotions.

That's totally untrue. It was way more fragmented in the 90s with Pancrase, Shooto, Rings, etc and then in the 2000s with Pride, M-1, Strikeforce and WEC.

Once UFC bought Pride, Strikeforce, and WEC there was a huge consolidation of the very top talent into the UFC.

Since then the orgs you mentioned have all come into being or become bigger and the gap has closed, but not enough to make it more fragmented than the 90s or 2000s. The UFC still has the lion's share of the world's top fighters.

 

[TheMaster]

I used to religiously consume as much MMA as I could; From countdowns to press-conferences and early-prelims to never missing any fighter interview, would watch the real weigh-ins and the ceremonial weigh-ins and even training footage, pretty much everything and quite enjoyed it. Now I am reduced to barely caring about the main event or being more excited about celebrity boxing matches or bareknuckle fights. MMA or I should say, the UFC in particular has lost my interest. The best days for me were back when Pride and the UFC were battling for MMA hegemony, one thing that the UFC, especially Dana White fails to understand, is that competition is a good thing, makes you strive for better things and put on better cards and improve your product, but the UFC with their world-dominance-monopolistic-unified-rules-cage mentality has actually made the sport much worse and generic.

MMA was also more of a spectacle back then.

People tuned in to see
- Spectacle
- Style vs style in martial arts
- Storylines and feuds
- Exciting fights and just bleed brawls or finishes

The truth is that without any of the above factors, most people including the majority of mma fans don't care much to see a standard mma fight between two unknowns battling to a decision.
The pure grappling and stalling heavy generic sport of mma just doesn't engage the majority of people in itself.

 

[asdf122345]

take a break. watch bkfc instead.

 

[NDiaz209]

They cancelled Ngannou vs Lewis, and Max vs Yair..only fight left I'm looking forward to is Conor vs Poirier. If they cancel that, then I'm throwing in the towel and staying away from MMA for a while.

 

[NDiaz209]

Anyone can be champion these days.

With the exception of Usman, this stable of correct UFC champions is an embarrassment to the sport.

How exactly is Jan an embarrassment to the sport?

 

[JoeRowe]

The last 8 ppvs have delivered. FNs have been hit & miss but I'm fine with that as long as they do 1 big show per month.

Disappointed that there is no card this weekend tbh.

 

[NDiaz209]

Beginning to see more and more threads like this. And I can't help but agree with the sentiment. MMA is boring right now.

 

[SokoudjouFanboy]

I'm not feeling MMA fatigue in a sport sense but I have never been a big fan of the UFC circus which the company has leaned into a lot over the last few years. Short of a few breaks I've followed MMA most of Zuffa's existence and I've never been a fan of the UFC being Dana White's vanity project. Dude is a genuine turd who wedges himself into all the worst parts of the sport. If you haven't guessed already I am also not a fan of the UFC monopsony on MMA market share. This is why I watch and talk about other promotions as much as is worth talking about. They may fail to get their shit together and you shake your head at them but I still want to see them do well so that there's legitimate competition. Makes the sport more interesting to follow in my opinion. Plus I think part of it is just to spite WME and Dana White.

The talent for good competition is there but it's fragmented across multiple promotions. Combined there's a roster that's at least almost if not just as good as the UFC's outside of the very very top. None of that seems to be equating to numbers though. Bellator and PFL are both struggling at least in a rating sense and ONE's series on TNT did okay but not great. I find it sad tbh.

 

[SokoudjouFanboy]

That's totally untrue. It was way more fragmented in the 90s with Pancrase, Shooto, Rings, etc and then in the 2000s with Pride, M-1, Strikeforce and WEC.

Once UFC bought Pride, Strikeforce, and WEC there was a huge consolidation of the very top talent into the UFC.

Since then the orgs you mentioned have all come into being or become bigger and the gap has closed, but not enough to make it more fragmented than the 90s or 2000s. The UFC still has the lion's share of the world's top fighters.

Definitely not as fragmented as the 90s before the rise of the big two but no less fragmented then pre SF purchase. People romanticize Strikeforce when the reality is Bellator has a way better collection of talent then Strikeforce ever did.. and I was a big fan of Strikeforce. Add all the other players to the mix and there's a ton of strong talent not in the UFC. More then I think casual fans realize.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Last few months have kind of been trash...

Frauds becoming champions,
Broke fighters catching cases over money,
Canceled fights,
Boring fights,
Bad cards,
Uninspiring efforts,

I'm a little burnt out dawg

Anyone with Me?

100% agreed..

Trash Cards
Drama behind the scenes preventing big fights..
How can ESPN be happy with the UFC right now?
They are paying for TV rights and trying to get new subs to ESPN Plus..
That ain't happening blowing off big fights like Jones/Francis because they are nickel and diming the fighters..

 

[Dbreiden83080]

No more Khabib is the worst blow to MMA, IMO.

Why is that? He only fought 1 time per year anyway..