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Its hilarious how stupid mma fans sound,when they think they are above pro wrestling,not realizing how intertwined and integral to its development it is and always will be. Those that decried the Japanese tradition must have pulled all their hair out when Lesnar,cm punk etc arrived on the scene
The interesting story of Bart Vale
https://prommanow.com/2017/07/21/the-incredibly-true-fake-legend-of-shootfight-champion-bart-vale/
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When “legend” Bart Vale came back from Japan he became a popular figure by using some of the same techniques these shams did to sell merchandise and teach comic book readers mail order video classes that would get people beaten up in the cage. He had competed in an organization in Japan called Pro Wrestling Fujiwara Gumi. This organization was one of the first to adopt a realistic style of sports entertainment that simulated shoot fighting. It was like a scripted Pancrase style fight with a predetermined winner. Something Vale forgot to mention when he came back home.
The internet wasn’t the debunking tool it was today and people like Vale could make these claims without much fact checking. Hell, you could buy a belt back then and show it to someone with a story of a Russian tournament of 128 fighters that you won by knockout in the first round of every match and as long as you had the belt they would believe you. Frank Dux bought a trophy, fought in a tournament where they used a radar gun, and got a movie out of those claims. In this case, Vale brought back his scripted accomplishments and presented them as real which was dishonest, misleading, and downright evil."
I remember seeing this guy in Black belt magazine all the time,touted as the toughest of the tough.
The thing is unlike alot of the guys in the magazine who never would prove themselves in a real fight he started having a bunch of real mma fights in kickboxing and mma where he got his ass kicked...bad,
But at least he tried. Maybe he was delusional and believed his own hype,i dont know,but he had more balls than the rest of these guys who never tried to prove their claims.
Your damn right buddeh!Michael Bisping is a national treasure and we are all lucky to have had him.
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Serra also told this story on his podcast...so its just not a mythI heard something about that,they discuss it i think when Oliverira fought against Schembri i think
Wasn't there a press conference where Mayorga wrecks Din with some kung fu slap?Ricardo Mayorga liked MMA and signed to fight Din Thomas but Don King got it squashed with some legal bullshit.
Also,lets not forget this man Andy Hug,for those who dont know,for those who forgot
Mayorga blew smoke in his face and fucking bitch slapped Din...Wasn't there a press conference where Mayorga wrecks Din with some kung fu slap?
Lol that's straight out of some kung fu movieMayorga blew smoke in his face and fucking bitch slapped Din...
Lol that's straight out of some kung fu movie
Distracted then sucker punched
Can't make that shit up
That was relatively common. Before his fights with Shogun, Machida either beat you brutally, or made you look bad for three rounds.John hackleman admitted they tried to avoid chuck fighting lyoto machida. "That fights all wrong for us"
Truthfully it made me want to see that fight if chuck had been closer to his prime.
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"The hot one" Yoshihiro Takayama had no prior mma experience before being thrown in with fujita,frye,schilt,and Bob sapp. His hotness lost all 4 fights but showed toughness and brass balls. He unfortunatley wound up paralyzed from the neck down on a botched wrestling move in 2017.
Shogun had a fight at HW w mark coleman and broke his arm defending on a takedown. The ref notices and stops the fight,but Mark didnt see it and he cant understand what happened and is not sure whats going on. At this point Shoguns brother Ninja slide into the ring,and Mark,still in agression mode squares up with him. Things are about to simmer down when Wanderlei,who was in the crowd at the time,comes in to attack mark,but Phil Baroni who was cornering mark shoots on wand and takes him down,and then Mark steps on his neck.
Footage in link below.
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No,I never heard thisWas the arianny and kongo story posted yet?
It's pretty similar too the "He's been ducking the Chael rematch for over 2 years" when Chael was suspended for one of those years.Yeah, I recall no ducking.
PISS OFF with your modern mma whining infantile mewlingIt's pretty similar too the "He's been ducking the Chael rematch for over 2 years" when Chael was suspended for one of those years.
Anderson suffered a shoulder injury shortly before he returned that required surgery and as soon as he recovered signed the contract for the rematch. All of which took place within 23 months.
Fight 1, August 7th 2010
Rematch, July 7th 2012