MMA forgotten stories thread

dmercer said:
Gary Goodridge on Pride FC fights being fixed and how Ogawa's camp offered him 20,000 to lose in their fight :

Goodridge : "At the beginning, when Pride first started, it was more like 90 percent of the fights were fixed and 10 percent were real," Goodridge said in an interview with The MMA Digest. "As the fights went on, they became the opposite way and completely wiped out. All were real."

At Pride 6, Goodridge was set to face Naoya Ogawa, but before he even stepped foot in the ring, he said his locker room was invaded with Ogawa's cornermen looking to cut a deal.

Apparently, Goodridge was offered $20,000 to take a dive.

Goodridge : "No, I didn't want no part of it. It messed with my brain because you have the corner asking me to take a dive thinking that he's not very well prepared or he's not this, he's not that, and then next thing you know, I go in there and I blow out in the first round."

Despite passing on the bribe, Goodridge ended up losing the bout anyway due to a second-round submission.
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Big Daddy´s talkin´outtah his ass here, 90% is not realistic...
 
dmercer said:
Like Evan Tanner, British fighter Dave Legeno also died of excessive heat-related issues while hiking in a desert in California. Dave Legeno, apart from fighting in mma, also starred in movies such as Harry Potter, Snatch, Batman Begins, Snow White and the Huntsman, etc ... . As a mixed martial artist, Legeno held wins over such legend fighters as Kimo and Dan Severn, and even has a win over referee Herb Dean.
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1st death in the cage..

DaPunk... A Brave Man, A Legend.... RIP.

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dmercer said:
Before TUF, PRIDE already done a reality TV show called PRE-PRIDE and PRIDE OU or PRIDE KING. The show ran for 6 seasons with the winners of the seasons getting a chance to fight in PRIDE. The coaches for the first season were Masaaki Satake, Daijiro Matsui, Akira Shoji and Alexander Otsuka. Some of the winners of the show didn't fight in PRIDE as one of them choose to fight in RINGS instead of PRIDE and others only fought once or twice but were never promoted as the winners of the show on the PRIDE cards.

Yushin Okami won one of the seasons of the show and he wore a Batman mask in the walk out to his fights on the show.

There was also another PRIDE reality TV show called PRIDE Challenger which was for amateur fighters.

There's little to no video of these shows because they aired on syndicated local TV stations in certain areas of Japan only.

There was a series of small PRIDE events called MMA THE BEST which featured an octagon ring. Joe Son fought Yusuke Imamura in the main event of the first event.

There was talks between PRIDE and UFC management at UFC 44 to set up a fight for Kazuyuki Fujita at UFC 46. PRIDE was hoping for a big fight for Fujita, but they offered him a fight with Wesley Correira. PRIDE management turned the fight down due to Correira not being a big enough name.

There was later talks of Sergei Kharitonov fighting in the UFC, but the UFC was the one to turn down that offer down because Nobody wants to see a no-name Russian guy. And because he's good.

The UFC later on wanted Sakuraba who was known in America due to his Gracie Hunter fame and PRIDE offered Hirotaka Yokoi.

The UFC had in mind initially if Chuck Liddell lost in the PRIDE middleweight GP which he did in the second to Rampage, they would send Randy Couture over next. None of these plan took place though because the PRIDE fighters weren't draws in America and the American fighters weren't draw in Japan.

Mirko was originally scheduled to fight as a PRIDE fighter in a UFC event scheduled to take place at the Yokohama Arena in Yokohama, Japan on June 12 2005.

The UFC planned a 2004 event in Japan with Couture challenging Wanderlei Silva to a double title fight in December.

When Fedor Emelianenko left Russian Top Team to join the Red Devil Team, RTT began preparing fighters to KO or beat Fedor in PRIDE. The first fight prepared to beat Fedor was Sergei Kharitonov. The other was a man who had defeated Fedor twice in Sambo and who was seen as the superior fighter to Fedor, Suren Balachinsky. Balachinsky was set to make his PRIDE debut at PRIDE 28, but injuries prevented that from happening.

PRIDE negotiated with former boxing heavyweight champion Mike Tyson. Tyson at the time had a bunch of legal problems including his rape scandal and he couldn’t get a license to fight anywhere. So the original plan was to a PRIDE Tyson tour around the world. The fighters in talks of fighting Tyson were Fedor, Mirko and fighters with good striking skills. The idea was to have Tyson fight in boxing matches against the MMA fighters. The world tour was aimed to have events in China, Russia and throughout Europe. The idea was for the tour to kick off in Macau, China. Tyson even got to sign a contract with PRIDE and even appeared as a PRIDE employee at first Las Vegas PRIDE event press conference. Tyson of course being Tyson, didn't show his face at the PRIDE event and when asked about Tyson at the post fight press conference, PRIDE management pretty much brushed off the question.
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Maeda (Rings´boss) was higher on Suren, but Suren´s body was too shot, not realistic...
 
HHJ said:
Batman Mike Bencic

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I'm from cro and not that young, but I can't remember him :/

THat said, he looks like a mix you get from Zidane, Daniel Day Lewis and Alun Amstrong :D
 
dmercer said:
Tank Abbott and Allan Goes altercation:

"When Tank Abbott was new to MMA, he spent some time with BJJ player Alan Goes to see what jiu-jitsu was all about. Usually what happens in the gym stays in the gym. But soon enough, Goes was telling the world how he had made Abbott tap out. When the two met face to face in the crowd at UFC 8, it came to blows. When "Big" John McCarthy's wife Elaine tried to intervene, things went from bad to worse.

Tank threatened Elaine, John flipped out and said he would quit if Abbott wasn't fired. He didn't trust himself to be around Tank. Abbott ended up suspended from the UFC until he wrote McCarthy a note to apologize.

On the surface, clear win for McCarthy. Of course,Tank was being paid to sit out, so it seems that it was he who had the last laugh."
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http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-puerto-rico-incident.3544399/
 
dmercer said:
Guy Mezger on Pride FC fixing fights :

" MMAyou.com: Here's a question from one of your fans that I thought was a really good question. Why did the Pride judges hate you so much?

Mezger: You know, I'll tell you truthfully man, I wouldn't play ball with them on certain things. They wanted me to do certain things that's just not something that I'm gonna do. It's against my, kind of my moral code and I think it pissed them off because i'm not gonna do some of the stuff that they wanted me to do. And I knew the moment that I disagreed, that I wasn't gonna play the game with them on that that things were gonna go south for me there.

MMAyou.com: Can we get into anymore then that or should we just leave that at that?

Mezger: I don't really want to get into the whole thing you know it's just that they were wanting me to be creative in some of the guys I fought. They wanted kind of a different outcome for the fight and when I refused, They started with the whole talking about it and I was like, Guys, I know where we're going with this. Before you guys say anything I'm not gonna do it. I know where we're going with this conversation and that's just not something I'm gonna do. I knew when that happened that I was gonna have to knock guys out. It was kind of a drag. I knew that any of those tough close fights were gonna be against me. I knew it.

Dealing with the Japanese too you know in dealing with that stuff. They have no real sanctioning body. There's no athletic board overseeing them or signing judges or any of that kind of stuff. You know they can do whatever they want over there and they often do."

The behind the story facts about the Guy Mezger vs Sakuraba fight that ended in controversy :

"Pride officials signed Mezger to fight Kazushi Sakuraba, who at the time was considered to be one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world. The fight took place at the Pride Grand Prix 2000 Opening Round. Mezger took the fight on two weeks notice and had a broken foot going into the fight. The contract that Mezger signed stipulated that the fight would be one 15-minute round with no overtime. The other fights on the card had the same stipulation. The fight mostly consisted of Mezger controlling the fight by stopping Sakuraba's takedown attempts while landing strikes from the outside. The round ended and Mezger expected the fight to go to the judges and get the win, but Pride officials wanted the fight to go to overtime. This resulted in one of the largest and most publicized controversies in MMA history.

According to Mezger, Pride did not like the outcome of the fight and changed the agreement/contract on the spot in order to give Sakuraba another chance to win the fight.An argument ensued and Mezger was ordered out of the ring and back to the locker room by his corner man, Ken Shamrock, who was livid at the decision to extend the fight because of Mezger's foot injury and the fact that he took the fight on short notice. Later that night, the president of Pride FC made a public apology to Mezger at the Tokyo Dome for the miscommunication. Mezger added, "Royce's father came up to me after my fight and said, "You got screwed. You won that fight." Here's Helio Gracie walking up to me and telling me I got ripped off", Mezger said."

If Pride FC stuck to the rules that were made for the fight, Mezger would have moved on in the tournament and Sakuraba would have never had the legendary first fight that he had with Royce Gracie.

video of the Guy Mezger vs Sakuraba fight including the controversy :
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Complete interview:

21 July 2001
There are rumored to have been many works in Pancrase around the time you were competing there, did you ever perform a work in Pancrase?

Guy Mezger : First of all; no I never was asked or performed any works and, second of all, there was not very many works. Maybe 4 or 5 total and most of them were before I was fighting for them. I hate when people say that there was so many works in Pancrase, they truly do not know what they are talking about.

Has Pride ever approached you about doing a work?

Guy Mezger : No, pride had never asked me to work a match.
 
dmercer said:
Euclides Pereira is probably the greatest fighter that you have never heard of. He has over 350 documented professional vale tudo fights and zero losses. He is the only man to defeat Carlson Gracie. He also holds wins over Ivan Gomez, Waldemar Santana (who has defeated Helio Gracie), and Zulu (when he was in his 40s).
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Hmmm...Inaccuracies here:

1/ The Rei Zulu vs Euclides Pereira fight was 1 year b4 the 1st Rei Zulu vs Hickson one (1980).
Rei Zulu was dominatin´the fight but got caught in a guillotine.
Since Rei Zulu was born in 1947 (hard to confirm tho...) & Pereira in 1941, neither one was in his 40s...

2/ Euclides has no win over Ivan Gomes.
5 fights: 4 Draws, 1 NC (Lights went out)
But one of these fights is considered controversial, no footage but one pic which suggests that Ivan actually won 1.:

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Euclides had between 200 and 530 fights, hard to assess.

His main rival was Ivan Gomes,who got a draw vs Carlson (who then accepted him as a student)
Ivan had 570 wins and 30 draws. (600 fights).[again, hard 2 assess]

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Bonus: Original Atomic Butt Drop:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-2-hunto´s-atomicbutt-drop.3735841/



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Damn, why did all of dmercer's post get blown out? Was almost finished reading them all

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If you saw alot of blood on the mat in pride ring it was probably from an earlier match involving daijiro matsui getting his ass kicked by a Brazilian lol
 
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Andre Xiong said:
After Pancrase household name and multi-champion Yuki Kondo challenged for prime pridefc Wanderleis title and lost by big ko stomping (literally), Pride offered Kondo as his next fight: Shogun, Ninja or Henderson

They might have hated Kondo just a bit

He’d go on to pick Hendo and fought a competitive fight but lost the decision
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They did something similar to Tamura. Poor guy had a rough go.
 
I remember tamura had koed minowa and the ref wouldnt stop it and tamura got fuckin pissed. Similarly I remember ninja had Matsui beat and ref wouldnt stop it and ninjas like what more you want me to do to the guy?? And he goes over and stomps on the helpless Matsuis head a few more times to wake that fuckin ref up.
 
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