Mir Shoulder Lock

[b0b]

Is this something that is taught in BJJ? I couldn't find it on bjj.org and have never seen it before. Was this something that is taught in any grappling circle, or something Mir just created?

For those who don't know, I am referring to the shoulder crank Mir used on Pete Williams.

 

[Deleted member 3729]

It's an esoteric technique but Mir certainly wasn't the first to use it. He popularised it, much like Nog and the "anaconda" choke

 

[Half Boston Crab]

That's a bigass av.

 

[EddNg]

Its kinda like one of those knife/gun-disarming techniques you see in films, I;m sure you's know the one

 

[VampireMonk]

I love this move.

I use it as much as I can, problem is its hard to get!!!

 

[Soulfly]

What does it look like?

 

[VampireMonk]

you have guard,
you over hook your arm over theirs
then you grab both of your hands and wrench his arm.
crank it the same way you would do a key lock (americana) but your hand
positions are totally different, and you got the guard.

you probably seen it done as a self defense move standing.

 

[Soulfly]

Ah! Understood. Thanks

 

[Enron Exec.]

Tyson was using on Mcbride thats why he was crying

 

[TJS]

I learned it From top of side mount if someone rolls to their side...My instructor called it a treebranch.

 

[SmashiusClay]

you have guard,
you over hook your arm over theirs
then you grab both of your hands and wrench his arm.
crank it the same way you would do a key lock (americana) but your hand
positions are totally different, and you got the guard.

you probably seen it done as a self defense move standing.

Yeah, I use this one now and again, dont find it to be the most useful move I've got but every now and again it seems to just fall into place.

 

[Spoonman7]

here is a link about Frank Mir's instructor on how to do that exact technique.http://www.greenwhaleproductions.com/lvcc.html

 

[DirectDrive]

it's a move that mir should have never caught pete in. don't get me wrong, i say more power to mir for getting it, but you won't see it much because it won't work very often.

 

[phenomfan1529]

i remember the look on pete williams' face when mir had it cranked. ouch!

 

[demolidor77]

Plus Pete is a reasonable good grappler. Not a easy submission to apply but works.

 

[Diligent]

Does anyone have a pic of him doing that to Pete Williams???

 

[Stoic1]

Low success percentage move. You are better off learning the basics with high percetage success.

 

[flyingnecklock]

Thought this would be a decent bump since Mir is fighting tonight and we just happened to have worked a variation of this move in class today from top half guard. I got Barnett via GNP tonight but I would love to see a sub from either guy.

Ossss!

 

[Grappleboxing]

you have guard,
you over hook your arm over theirs
then you grab both of your hands and wrench his arm.
crank it the same way you would do a key lock (americana) but your hand
positions are totally different, and you got the guard.

you probably seen it done as a self defense move standing.

This?

http://www.lockflow.com/overhook-shoulder-lock

Would throwing the right leg in this video create an armbar situation for the shoulder lock isn't working for some reason?

 

[JustinTime]

Frickin hate this move although it's effective if timed right. I had a guy crank this on me and both my shoulder and elbow popped loudly. I was able to get back on the mats in like two weeks, but that arm has never been the same.