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Military Roll Call! Veterans, GTFIH!

That's something I'll never understand. Yeah, the military may have sucked mule for you but when it's time to pack out, the people that are there are civilians and they're there to help you. You KNOW that wasn't the first time someone had tried to pack her out. The packers probably looked in there said "NOPE!" and BOUNCED.

They'll always inform their chain of why they couldn't do it. Then the 1stSgt has to try to save face because of some jackhole.

Pro-tip: ALWAYS buy the packers lunch/pizza and soda. You'll always get your stuff in PRIME condition.
 
That's something I'll never understand. Yeah, the military may have sucked mule for you but when it's time to pack out, the people that are there are civilians and they're there to help you. You KNOW that wasn't the first time someone had tried to pack her out. The packers probably looked in there said "NOPE!" and BOUNCED.

They'll always inform their chain of why they couldn't do it. Then the 1stSgt has to try to save face because of some jackhole.

Pro-tip: ALWAYS buy the packers lunch/pizza and soda. You'll always get your stuff in PRIME condition.

Yep and if you got a few open bottles of liquer you'd never drink but was left at your place...hook em up.

A bottle of Tanqueray used to stock a home bar minus a few drinks got me daily updates from my driver, along with a conviemt delay so I could beat the truck on a door to door coast to coast move.
 
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Sorry, but a bit of a long rant here.

Yesterday myself and around 12 of our junior enlisted spent around 4 hours moving one of my neighbors (same unit, different platoon) out of her house. She apparently was supposed to have already cleared housing over two weeks ago, after being chaptered out for being overweight. And I learned later she was already on a 90 day extension.

I cannot explain what failures preceded today, only that I personally was in the middle of this week's training meeting earlier yesterday, when my 1SG bursted in loudly stating "Sergeant SakuGoliath, one of your neighbors needs to be completely moved out by 1500, if we can't we'll have to explain to the brigade cdr blah blah". "Take some of those shops guys not already engaged and help her move out please".

I was puzzled, but nonetheless I knew who he was talking about because I remembered the Uhaul sitting there. She was a single mom of two, grandmother lived with her. So I gathered some men and we all drove out to her house.

What we walked into, was complete filth. Not only did she make no effort to pack up her things or clean or anything, despite knowing she was getting kicked out for months. It was completely filthy. There was trash everywhere, stained rotten carpet, bugs etc. Random alcohol bottles throughout the house, knives out in random places. It was almost like an episode of Hoarders. And worse she had two children.

We started working immediately. I grabbed some boxes that I had left over from my last PCS, and we gathered tape, lots of bags, and newspaper. A personal trailer had been brought by another NCO. I didn't care to ask how she wanted things packed. I told the men to just get like items consolidated and pack accordingly and put in the Uhaul trailer.

About 45 mins later my 1SG called. Someone told him the situation.

He ended up coming over to this house himself, and the look on his face was funny. He stood there watching guys awkwardly trying to pack things in bags, shoving random shit into boxes. Myself and another guy were taking out tvs. House was obviously still a mess, he could clearly see she was not going to be moved out in the next 15 mins. So he called for 6 more individuals and we kept on.

Eventually her mom just started crying, idk if it was embarrassment or that everything was too much for her. Very awkward, so we went to get the soldier. We found this shit bag sitting in her bathroom, on her cell phone, I'm not kidding. So we told her to go hug her mom or something, because she was very upset.

About an hour and a half later we finally got all the shit out of there, I even took some big trash items over to my car port. (Wife isn't happy about that) Her PL signed her out of post. The housing authority lady said that she's going to be charged a large sum of money, for the state of the house.

Overall, on several levels I guess I just feel bad for the kids. The whole thing has kind of disturbed me. I don't understand why this happened. Why she was okay with living that way, or how she just didn't do anything for so long when something obviously had to be done. She was an NCO to boot.

Rant over, trying to get it off my mind.


*tdlr
My leadership directed me to assemble a team to move out my overweight chaptered neighbor within 2 hours, house was a disgusting mess, CPS could have been called
Let me guess, the fatty was on her first enlistment as well?
 
DTMS indicates she hadn't passed a height and weight since 2019.
Why wasn't she kicked out back in 2019? She spent almost 4 years on active duty as a 'fat girl.'
I'll bet she could not pass the APFT either.
Don't know what kind of unit this is, but it has some serious issues. Someone should notify the IG.
 
Why wasn't she kicked out back in 2019? She spent almost 4 years on active duty as a 'fat girl.'
I'll bet she could not pass the APFT either.
Don't know what kind of unit this is, but it has some serious issues. Someone should notify the IG.
Part of it was covid, they stopped the ability to flag Soldiers for nearly 2 years. 20-22. Effectively meaning Soldiers could not be kicked out for APFT, or ABCP. Why she wasn't already flagged in 19' is confusing, but I was at Hood at the time.

I can tell you she's one of many, the situation has gotten out of hand in many Units. The body fat numbers and ACFT numbers are apparently horrendous right now, but they are afraid to release them publicly because recruiting is already bad enough and it's embarrassing.
 
And she probably got up to 12 months to make weight before they can even start chaptering, at least that's how it works in the marines.
 
Bro the acft is fucking joke. Ball toss? 3min plank? I think anyone not disgustingly out of shape would pass above a 60%! Hell @San Marino would max the 65-78 age bracket with his walker! (Kidding I know you’re not that old). It’s kind of a step in the right direction then a complete fail…
The standard should be the UBRR with some modifications but the army couldn’t do that.. a scored 5mi run *gasp* I do think the marine baseline is better at least when it was pull-ups and a 3mi… to be fair I never thought crunches or sit ups measured shit
 
Bro the acft is fucking joke. Ball toss? 3min plank? I think anyone not disgustingly out of shape would pass above a 60%! Hell @San Marino would max the 65-78 age bracket with his walker! (Kidding I know you’re not that old). It’s kind of a step in the right direction then a complete fail…
The standard should be the UBRR with some modifications but the army couldn’t do that.. a scored 5mi run *gasp* I do think the marine baseline is better at least when it was pull-ups and a 3mi… to be fair I never thought crunches or sit ups measured shit
I think planks replaced crunches. And you can do pushups now instead of pull ups. 3 mile run under 28 minutes.
Is UBRR 15 pullups, 5 mile run in under 40 minutes, and 12 mile hump under 3 hours?
 
I think planks replaced crunches. And you can do pushups now instead of pull ups. 3 mile run under 28 minutes.
Is UBRR 15 pullups, 5 mile run in under 40 minutes, and 12 mile hump under 3 hours?
When I did the ubrr it included 5mi run, pull ups, rope climb, push ups, dips, bench press at 60%BW I think. You had to pass each event and earn 100pts in extra points to get 1100+ on a 10 event UBRR. I know there’s 10 events but I don’t remember them all off hand.
It’s what some units still use at their baseline.
The range ready exam or whatever is legit too, but it’s a lot of body Army shit. Which makes sense.
 
When I did the ubrr it included pull ups, rope climb, push ups, dips, bench press at 60%BW I think. You had to pass each event and earn 100pts in extra points to get 1100+ on a 10 event UBRR.
It’s what some units still use at their baseline.
The range ready exam or whatever is legit too, but it’s a lot of body Army shit. Which makes sense.
I think what I'm thinking about is what you do during RASP and the beginning of Ranger school. 5 miles in under 40 minutes is no joke.
 
I think what I'm thinking about is what you do during RASP and the beginning of Ranger school. 5 miles in under 40 minutes is no joke.
I was gonna say. I meant Ranger ready exam?

It’s true the SF ODAs always struggle with the average age being so old, it’s hard to continue to knock out 5mi in under 40 when you’re 35-40yrs old and 15+yrs deep into your career.

I dunno it’s a balance for me.. baselines are baselines if you can’t keep the minimum to what the junior guys do.. maybe it’s time to move off the line.
 
I think what I'm thinking about is what you do during RASP and the beginning of Ranger school. 5 miles in under 40 minutes is no joke.
Back in 1992 you had to pass the 18 to 21-year-old standard (APFT) going into Ranger school even if you were in your 30s or 40s.
Not sure about today. Women in Ranger school have fucked everything up!
Now we have Air Force women going through Army Ranger school. Why? How many patrols will they be running back at their unit?
They are stealing slots (and funding) from guys that are in an Infantry unit.
 
Something to lighten the mood.

Coasties doing Coastie Shit.

He picked em up after the rollover.

For as much shit as I talk on the Swimmers, and the Rotorheads, and the Pilots.... dudes are badasses.

 
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