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Military Roll Call! Veterans, GTFIH!

I don't understand why it's gonna cost the Army $62 million to rename bases. Isn't that what working parties are for?
 
Thrawn33 said:
Agree. While TSA is flipping out of this thing that turns out to be nothing, God only knows what's making it through....

An old unit of mine was frequently asked to provide "red team" actors on security audits.. that's all I can really say on that.

But (personal story): getting berated by TSA for my full sized tube of toothpaste in carry on at a podunk 2 flight/day airport only to find they missed my subordinate's 8 inch fixed blade steel deck knife in his carry on bag is something I'm more than happy to tell wide and far...
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Some hassle could probably have been saved on the rep's part. However, the end result was mostly like an arbitrary "eat shit" move on an agent's part.
 
One of the child predator catchers I watch caught an active duty Army E7 who was about to hit his 20 and retire. Reduction to E1, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, 28 months in the brig, and a DD.

<{hughesimpress}>
 
My Spot said:
One of the child predator catchers I watch caught an active duty Army E7 who was about to hit his 20 and retire. Reduction to E1, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, 28 months in the brig, and a DD.

<{hughesimpress}>
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Is there a YT or rumble vid?
 
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Sorry, but a bit of a long rant here.

Yesterday myself and around 12 of our junior enlisted spent around 4 hours moving one of my neighbors (same unit, different platoon) out of her house. She apparently was supposed to have already cleared housing over two weeks ago, after being chaptered out for being overweight. And I learned later she was already on a 90 day extension.

I cannot explain what failures preceded today, only that I personally was in the middle of this week's training meeting earlier yesterday, when my 1SG bursted in loudly stating "Sergeant SakuGoliath, one of your neighbors needs to be completely moved out by 1500, if we can't we'll have to explain to the brigade cdr blah blah". "Take some of those shops guys not already engaged and help her move out please".

I was puzzled, but nonetheless I knew who he was talking about because I remembered the Uhaul sitting there. She was a single mom of two, grandmother lived with her. So I gathered some men and we all drove out to her house.

What we walked into, was complete filth. Not only did she make no effort to pack up her things or clean or anything, despite knowing she was getting kicked out for months. It was completely filthy. There was trash everywhere, stained rotten carpet, bugs etc. Random alcohol bottles throughout the house, knives out in random places. It was almost like an episode of Hoarders. And worse she had two children.

We started working immediately. I grabbed some boxes that I had left over from my last PCS, and we gathered tape, lots of bags, and newspaper. A personal trailer had been brought by another NCO. I didn't care to ask how she wanted things packed. I told the men to just get like items consolidated and pack accordingly and put in the Uhaul trailer.

About 45 mins later my 1SG called. Someone told him the situation.

He ended up coming over to this house himself, and the look on his face was funny. He stood there watching guys awkwardly trying to pack things in bags, shoving random shit into boxes. Myself and another guy were taking out tvs. House was obviously still a mess, he could clearly see she was not going to be moved out in the next 15 mins. So he called for 6 more individuals and we kept on.

Eventually her mom just started crying, idk if it was embarrassment or that everything was too much for her. Very awkward, so we went to get the soldier. We found this shit bag sitting in her bathroom, on her cell phone, I'm not kidding. So we told her to go hug her mom or something, because she was very upset.

About an hour and a half later we finally got all the shit out of there, I even took some big trash items over to my car port. (Wife isn't happy about that) Her PL signed her out of post. The housing authority lady said that she's going to be charged a large sum of money, for the state of the house.

Overall, on several levels I guess I just feel bad for the kids. The whole thing has kind of disturbed me. I don't understand why this happened. Why she was okay with living that way, or how she just didn't do anything for so long when something obviously had to be done. She was an NCO to boot.

Rant over, trying to get it off my mind.


*tdlr
My leadership directed me to assemble a team to move out my overweight chaptered neighbor within 2 hours, house was a disgusting mess, CPS could have been called
 
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SakuGoliath said:
Sorry, but a bit of a long rant here.

Yesterday myself and around 12 of our junior enlisted spent around 4 hours moving one of my neighbors (same unit, different platoon) out of her house. She apparently was supposed to have already cleared housing over two weeks ago, after being chaptered out for being overweight. And I learned later she was already on a 90 day extension.

I cannot explain what failures preceded today, only that I personally was in the middle of this week's training meeting earlier yesterday, when my 1SG bursted in loudly stating "Sergeant SakuGoliath, one of your neighbors needs to be completely moved out by 1500, if we can't we'll have to explain to the brigade cdr blah blah". "Take some of those shops guys not already engaged and help her move out please".

I was puzzled, but nonetheless I knew who he was talking about because I remembered the Uhaul sitting there. She was a single mom of two, grandmother lived with her. So I gathered some men and we all drove out to her house.

What we walked into, was complete filth. Not only did she make no effort to pack up her things or clean or anything, despite knowing she was getting kicked out for months. It was completely filthy. There was trash everywhere, stained rotten carpet, bugs etc. Random alcohol bottles throughout the house, knives out in random places. It was almost like an episode of Hoarders. And worse she had two children.

We started working immediately. I grabbed some boxes that I had left over from my last PCS, and we gathered tape, lots of bags, and newspaper. A personal trailer had been brought by another NCO. I didn't care to ask how she wanted things packed. I told the men to just get like items consolidated and pack accordingly and put in the Uhaul trailer.

About 45 mins later my 1SG called. Someone told him the situation.

He ended up coming over to this house himself, and the look on his face was funny. He stood there watching guys awkwardly trying to pack things in bags, shoving random shit into boxes. Myself and another guy were taking out tvs. House was obviously still a mess, he could clearly see she was not going to be moved out in the next 15 mins. So he called for 6 more individuals and we kept on.

Eventually her mom just started crying, idk if it was embarrassment or that everything was too much for her. Very awkward, so we went to get the soldier. We found this shit bag sitting in her bathroom, on her cell phone, I'm not kidding. So we told her to go hug her mom or something, because she was very upset.

About an hour and a half later we finally got all the shit out of there, I even took some big trash items over to my car port. (Wife isn't happy about that) Her PL signed her out of post. The housing authority lady said that she's going to be charged a large sum of money, for the state of the house.

Overall, on several levels I guess I just feel bad for the kids. The whole thing has kind of disturbed me. I don't understand why this happened. Why she was okay with living that way, or how she just didn't do anything for so long when something obviously had to be done. She was an NCO to boot.

Rant over, trying to get it off my mind.


*tdlr
My leadership directed me to assemble a team to move out my overweight chaptered neighbor within 2 hours, house was a disgusting mess, CPS could have been called
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It seems like your PLT Sgt failed. If I was the PLT Sgt, I would have told the 1st Sgt to get fucked on that situation.
 
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crabmeat said:
It seems like your PLT Sgt failed. If I was the PLT Sgt, I would have told the 1st Sgt to get fucked on that situation.
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I work for the 1SG in the headquarters platoon, he's my boss directly. But her platoon sergeant certainly failed at several levels
 
SakuGoliath said:
I work for the 1SG in the headquarters platoon, he's my boss directly. But her platoon sergeant certainly failed at several levels
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Still. There's no way I would let my people get whored out for a non-mission critical task, for another platoon, that should have had it squared away. It makes leaders appear weak and gives the appearance of a breakdown in the chain of command. The fuck-fuck in your platoon stays inhouse.
 
crabmeat said:
Still. There's no way I would let my people get whored out for a non-mission critical task, for another platoon, that should have had it squared away. It makes leaders appear weak and gives the appearance of a breakdown in the chain of command. The fuck-fuck in your platoon stays inhouse.
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I'll spare you the details, unless you want them. But I guess the best way to explain it is that my unit is dysfunctional on several levels right now
 
SakuGoliath said:
Yesterday myself and around 12 of our junior enlisted spent around 4 hours moving one of my neighbors (same unit, different platoon) out of her house. ...when my 1SG bursted in loudly stating "Sergeant SakuGoliath, one of your neighbors needs to be completely moved out by 1500."
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Not an NCO or enlisted duty. Your 1st Sergeant is an idiot.
SakuGoliath said:
My leadership directed me to assemble a team to move out my overweight chaptered neighbor within 2 hours, house was a disgusting mess, CPS could have been called.
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None of this has anything remotely to do with a soldier's job description. Civilians (GS type) should have been involved. People don't join the military to move furniture.
 
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San Marino said:
Not and NCO or enlisted duty. Your 1st Sergeant is an idiot.

None of this has anything remotely to do with a soldier's job description. Civilians (GS type) should have been involved. People don't join the military to move furniture.
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I completely agree, it was frustrating. And not the first time I've been taken away from my administrative duties for complete bs.

But I don't want post my grievances here. All of you have already lived it.
 
That’s also one of those jobs I would not task junior soldiers to do. It would be a favor and everyone would get hooked up. As a e8 I would have lead the way and been there from the get go.

Outside looking in of course.

Things like that are 1. Never ask your boys to do something you wouldn’t. 2. There’s payback for shit like that, you owe the guys a favor there. 3. I’ve seen stuff like this and because of the family I’m bringing in NCOs to do it.

Obviously I’m Monday morning arm chair quarterbacking the whole thing lol. But it’s an exercise in a situation where the manual probably does not have the best answer or guidance in general. I don’t know, not an area I’ve had to visit because I never did 1SG time! Thank god.
 
That's something I'll never understand. Yeah, the military may have sucked mule for you but when it's time to pack out, the people that are there are civilians and they're there to help you. You KNOW that wasn't the first time someone had tried to pack her out. The packers probably looked in there said "NOPE!" and BOUNCED.

They'll always inform their chain of why they couldn't do it. Then the 1stSgt has to try to save face because of some jackhole.

Pro-tip: ALWAYS buy the packers lunch/pizza and soda. You'll always get your stuff in PRIME condition.
 
San Marino said:
Sounds like a job for the MPs or Family Support group.
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I dunno.. can’t picture MPs doing anything other than fuck with junior enlisted and check IDs. I suppose every now and then there’s an investigation for them and CID to royally fuck up. Between those hot ticket items maybe.
 
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