Military Roll Call! Veterans, GTFIH!

I remember the first time I saw him. They cut it from the show, but I think he mentioned it in the book.

I was a recon Marine with 1stRadBn (now 3rd RadBn) during the initial invasion. We got pimped out to 1st Recon for most of the initial invasion, until we peeled off after Baghdad and got sent up to Tikrit.

Anyway, I was a Sgt and TL for a six-man radio recon team. We didn't cross the border with 1st Recon, as they sent us to blow up Safwan Hill. So we didn't link up with 1st Recon until a day or two later. When we did, it was during some pause in a relatively safe area. Something like, 30 vehicles set up in a 500-yard circle, surrounded by a berm, and about a 100 grunts milling about.

It's a relatively safe spot, so people are mostly just walking about casually. Now we didn't know 1st Recon even had a reporter with them. We had just met up a few hours ago and no one had bothered to tell us. No real reason to.

So we're all just milling about, when suddenly I see some dude in civies just start sprinting across the area we were in. To this day, I don't know why he just took off at a dead sprint. I think he said he just wasn't thinking and just started running back to his vehicle. Fair enough. But one of our teamates was kinda in the path of Evan. So from his perspective, he's relaxed, but you're always still kinda on guard. And he see's out of his peripheral vision, some random guy, who's clearly not a Marine, sprinting straight at him.

So he just instinctively turns around and levels his M4 right at the onrushing journalist. Evan, understandably, comes to a dead stop and raises his hands straight in the air. I mean that comical, hands all the way up I'm surrendering, kinda way. And he went from full on sprint, to dead stop, in an instant. And they both just held that pose for a full five seconds. One Marine rifle raised and pointed dead at a goofy looking civilian with his hands up.

And the weirdest thing was, like 30 people watched this happen. I just happened to see it, and was as equally confused. Eventually, someone in the crowd shouted something like, "Don't shoot our fucking reporter." Our guy snapped out of it at that point. And both him and Evan relaxed amid that awkward laughter.

Anyway. I talked to Evan later a few times, but wouldn't say I got to know him particularly well. But he seemed like a good guy. And I do appreciate how he wrote it up. It was an honest take, devoid of the generic rah-rah, a lot of those early articles had. And no one can say he didn't put himself in harms way to get that story.
Seemed like a legit reporter. I know a lot of guys are skeptical of having reporters follow them into combat. They’re a liability in terms of safety and could frame the story untruthfully or incompletely to set the stage for all kind of negative attention.
 
So apparently The IDF has killed Fouad Shukur , who they believe was behind recent attacks on Israel but even more surprising he is also believed to have been one of the Masterminds behind the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut in 1981. Wild stuff.
 
So apparently The IDF has killed Fouad Shukur , who they believe was behind recent attacks on Israel but even more surprising he is also believed to have been one of the Masterminds behind the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut in 1981. Wild stuff.

BZ
 
he is also believed to have been one of the Masterminds behind the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut in 1981.
That was in the fall 1983. I remember it well.
Was this plot executed by the CIA or the IDF? Maybe they were both involved.
 
Well none of you squids, grunts and jarheads are smart enough to remember history, and you airdales are probably still asleep, so...Happy Birthday to Uncle Sam's Confused Group, the motherfucking true sailors (as opposed to the USN) with the balls to match the Marines, the brains to match the Air Force and the outright stupid resolve of the Army.

Damn we good, time to start drinking...
 
August 4 is the day that 750,000 German soldiers started marching through Belgium to get to France in 1914. They thought the western front would be over in six weeks.

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Man, things were crazy back in the day.
 
Oh Jim Janos still claiming to be a SEAL in Vietnam.
Ventura graduated from BUD/S class 58 in December 1970 and was part of UDT (Underwater Demolition Team) 12.
UDT was the precursor to SEAL. He earned his 'trident' like current day SEALs. The SEAL community considers him a fully qualified member.
 
Ventura graduated from BUD/S class 58 in December 1970 and was part of UDT (Underwater Demolition Team) 12.
UDT was the precursor to SEAL. He earned his 'trident' like current day SEALs. The SEAL community considers him a fully qualified member.
He never stepped foot in Vietnam nor did he ever spend his six month probationary period with one of the teams. This all came out after his infamous "you haven't lived until you've hunted man" Playboy interview.

Edit: These are sailors who served in both ST1 and UDT12 during the Vietnam War.


This is from DG Operator, who went through STT (now SQT) with the dudes from the BUD/S 234 documentary and later served in NSWDG aka ST6:

Jesse Ventura did in fact graduate from BUD/S training - BUD/S Class 58 (fun fact - they are the class that donated the bell that DORs use to this day).

Now after he graduated BUD/S, back then… guys would either go to a SEAL Team or to an Underwater Demolition Team (UDT). Ventura went to UDT-12.

In the Navy, enlisted guys get what is called a Navy Enlisted Classification (NEC) code, which is a numerical designation that stands for a sailors particular qualification. Back when Ventura was in, the NEC 5321 was a UDT guy and the NEC 5326 was (and still is) for a SEAL. (5321 no longer exists). Ventura’s NEC during his entire Special Warfare career was 5321.

For a UDT guy to “convert” to SEAL, he needed to do a 6-month probationary period on a SEAL Team before his 5321 (UDT NEC) was converted to a 5326 (SEAL NEC). Ventura spent all of his time at UDT-12 and therefore never converted his 5321 to the 5326 NEC. Thus, to be very technical he was a UDT guy but he was not ever a SEAL. Had he been in the Navy 10–15 years later than he was he most certainly would have been a 5326 NEC.

As for his deployment, he was stationed in Subic Bay and did 3 months on a float in the South China Sea. Zero proof he was ever actually in Vietnam and you can do an FOIA request yourself for a redacted copy of his service record (s) if you really wanna keep believing otherwise.
 
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He never stepped foot in Vietnam, nor did he ever spend his six month probationary period with one of the teams. This all came out after his infamous "you haven't lived until you've hunted man" Playboy interview.
The issue was if Ventura was a SEAL or not, not if he went to Vietnam.
I don't know how this guy and his mates were not sent to Vietnam in the 1970s. The US left Vietnam in 1975 but major conflict with the enemy lasted until 1973. SEALs weren't really a 'thing' during the Vietnam conflict. Ventura proves that. U.S. Army Special Forces were the ones taking all the glory. All that changed after SEALs got assigned the Bin Laden raid.

MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam – Studies and Observations Group) were some of the most 'bad-ass' teams ever to operate in Vietnam. These guys were much tougher (crazy) than today's SEALs or Special Forces. 100% casualty rate in every mission, and they were doing multiple missions one after the other. Absolutely nuts! There is nothing like this anymore in the US military.

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The issue was if Ventura was a SEAL or not, not if he went to Vietnam.
I don't know how this guy and his mates were not sent to Vietnam in the 1970s. The US left Vietnam in 1975 but major conflict with the enemy lasted until 1973. SEALs weren't really a 'thing' during the Vietnam conflict. Ventura proves that. U.S. Army Special Forces were the ones taking all the glory. All that changed after SEALs got assigned the Bin Laden raid.

MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam – Studies and Observations Group) were some of the most 'bad-ass' teams ever to operate in Vietnam. These guys were much tougher (crazy) than today's SEALs or Special Forces. 100% casualty rate in every mission, and they were doing multiple missions one after the other. Absolutely nuts! There is nothing like this anymore in the US military.

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ST1 had 34 KIA during Vietnam, they most certainly were a thing. Jesse chose to remain UDT though. I guess even back then he didn't have time to bleed.
 
ST1 had 34 KIA during Vietnam, they most certainly were a thing. Jesse chose to remain UDT though. I guess even back then he didn't have time to bleed.
That is laughable!
How many kills did MACV-SOG have? In 1968, every MACV-SOG recon man was wounded at least once, and about half were killed, but despite such high losses, MACV-SOG boasted the highest “kill ratio” in US military history, topping out at 158-to-1 in 1970.
 
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