Militarised Police

[Concrete Whale]

Just to be crystal, you don't think the cop's parting words were passive aggressive?

He is a cop worshipper.

Cult of the First Responder cuckservative

 

[Greoric]

Should be more militarized and thus have a chain of command. We need a national approach to policing and an overuse of the current system which allows city police departments to be free of an oversight.

This is facetious right?

 

[Greoric]

He is a cop worshipper.

Cult of the First Responder cuckservative

I'm actually surprised by his resolution here. Check out his posting history. He has a healthy skepticism for authority, which I appreciate.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

As a current Sheriff in one of, if not the most well known and high profile counties in America, who sits in on daily meetings with the Chief or Captain or Lt. of my precinct, we haven't gotten the memo yet to be more militarized. Funny huh? Actually what we go over is how we can actually better the community, to make sure we are obeying protocol, talking to people and not down or at people. Also have worked closely with LAPD and SWAT and pretty much everyone I have come across, while working or shooting the shit with has been professional. Not buttering you up or bsing you all here, but the media got you all shook. The ignorant morons who pretty much just stick to their own and live a kind of sheltered life in their own culture, aka a lot of BLM, are easily fooled by the media and think every problem in their life is due to racism and white people.

So no TS, the USA is not "furthest ahead", you are mis-informed and or full of shit. You're probably not even American and if you are, chalk another up to being fooled.

Policing will NEVER be perfect, anywhere. Wherever there is a human element involved, in pretty much any field of careers, there will be errors. Let a lone high adrenaline situations that involve peoples lives. Doesn't mean they are racist out to just kill a certain race of people. Think about how dumb it is at the thought police officers just wake up one day and go; "Oh shit, todays the day! I'm going to kill one of them coloreds!! Yeeehawwwww! Who cares if there are video cameras everywhere, I'm just going to be homicidal today due to my racisms."

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Just to be crystal, you don't think the cop's parting words were passive aggressive?

Where's the passive part? They paid the couple's bill and informed them of it in writing, while noting they did so because of the obvious insult. Where's the element of non-cooperation or some form of stubbornness?

 

[Concrete Whale]

As a current Sheriff in one of, if not the most well known and high profile counties in America, who sits in on daily meetings with the Chief or Captain or Lt. of my precinct, we haven't gotten the memo yet to be more militarized. Funny huh? Actually what we go over is how we can actually better the community, to make sure we are obeying protocol, talking to people and not down or at people. Also have worked closely with LAPD and SWAT and pretty much everyone I have come across, while working or shooting the shit with has been professional. Not buttering you up or bsing you all here, but the media got you all shook. The ignorant morons who pretty much just stick to their own and live a kind of sheltered life in their own culture, aka a lot of BLM, are easily fooled by the media and think every problem in their life is due to racism and white people.

So no TS, the USA is not "furthest ahead", you are mis-informed and or full of shit. You're probably not even American and if you are, chalk another up to being fooled.

Policing will NEVER be perfect, anywhere. Wherever there is a human element involved, in pretty much any field of careers, there will be errors. Let a lone high adrenaline situations that involve peoples lives. Doesn't mean they are racist out to just kill a certain race of people. Think about how dumb it is at the thought police officers just wake up one day and go; "Oh shit, todays the day! I'm going to kill one of them coloreds!! Yeeehawwwww! Who cares if there are video cameras everywhere, I'm just going to be homicidal today due to my racisms."

Thanks for your input officer. Just wondering, did you have to take an IQ test to get hired, where they eliminate people with above-average IQs?

 

[Greoric]

Where's the passive part? They paid the couple's bill and informed them of it in writing, while noting they did so because of the obvious insult. Where's the element of non-cooperation or some form of stubbornness?

Haha GTFO. C'mon Cubo. The "Thank you of your support" reeks of authenticity to you?

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

This is facetious right?

Militarization is a word that the paranoid take out of context. We aren't about having something like the NKVD. What I am talking about is empowering the police and the citizens. The police need need gear, "more militarized" gear if you will. But you are crazy if you think the police will resemble anything like the military. What we need is an empowered police force but for that police force to be under the umbrella of something like the DHS. Not making it the DHS. But what I envision is having all major police departments being checked and held responsible to a larger board and that board will report to congress.

I also think only this approach can help end the systemattic racism and corruption found in many police departments. This can be done by making sure that all police departments follow new procedures and are monitored for corruption and systematic racism by a larger body and that body will report to Congress. I also, think having civilian oversight of police like say city councils is anot her way to keep police in check.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Haha GTFO. C'mon Cubo. The "Thank you of your support" reeks of authenticity to you?

Is that part of the definition? Maybe you should establish one before insisting I agree with the specific term you're using to characterize these actions. For that particular remark maybe the term you're looking for is facetious or ironic?

 

[Greoric]

Militarization is a word that the paranoid take out of context. We aren't about having something like the NKVD. What I am talking about is empowering the police and the citizens. The police need need gear, "more militarized" gear if you will. But you are crazy if you think the police will resemble anything like the military. What we need is an empowered police force but for that police force to be under the umbrella of something like the DHS. Not making it the DHS. But what I envision is having all major police departments being checked and held responsible to a larger board and that board will report to congress.

I also think only this approach can help end the systemattic racism and corruption found in many police departments. This can be done by making sure that all police departments follow new procedures and are monitored for corruption and systematic racism by a larger body and that body will report to Congress. I also, think having civilian oversight of police like say city councils is anot her way to keep police in check.

Stopped right there. I see some of these guys on patrol with load outs no different than what I would wear. My god, they even wear the same camouflage pattern. But they're wearing them in an urban environment?

If that's not militarization, I don't know what is.

Edit: Frankly, its interesting that your stance on this topic highlights your misunderstanding for economic issues. Here you are defending centralization, but what precedent are you going off of that suggests better control is maintained over something when the source of control is further removed? Have you ever been in a leadership position? Did you handle everything yourself? ...Or did you delegate?

Why would a group of bureaucrats as part of the DHS 2000 miles away from a town have better regulatory capability than the LE that live, work, and shit there? Who has a better pulse for the individual problems that arise?

 

[Greoric]

Is that part of the definition? Maybe you should establish one before insisting I agree with the specific term you're using to characterize these actions. For that particular remark maybe the term you're looking for is facetious or ironic?

Noted on establishing a definition...

pas·sive-ag·gres·sive

of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by indirect resistance to the demands of others and an avoidance of direct confrontation, as in procrastinating, pouting, or misplacing important materials.

Being offensively facetious is a means of passive aggression. Would you disagree?

 

[Fedorable]

Unless they're walking around in stormtrooper armor all day err day, i wouldn't consider it really militarization. The apcs and shit come out for specific situations which is the way it should be.

i agree with this, most cops aren't wearing helmets and have shields and other riot gear. It is for when there is a possibility of a riot. and people throwing stuff is deflected by shields and helmets. Plus large amounts of people need to be dispersed away from highways for safety reasons with tear gas and flares.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Noted on establishing a definition...



Being offensively facetious is a means of passive aggression. Would you disagree?

I'd disagree.

Your definition doesn't read as claimed. You even bolded and underlined the "and" but. You seem to think that it reads like this.

1. of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by indirect resistance to the demands of others
2. an avoidance of direct confrontation


I think it reads as requiring these things in conjunction. Especially considering that's how I've always understood the phrase.

 

[Greoric]

I'd disagree.

Your definition doesn't read as claimed. You even bolded and underlined the "and" but. You seem to think that it reads like this.

1. of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by indirect resistance to the demands of others
2. an avoidance of direct confrontation


I think it reads as requiring these things in conjunction. Especially considering that's how I've always understood the phrase.

I think their actions apply to the first part also. After all, their "resistance" was indirect, where direct would have been straight up, "we think you're an asshole for not taking a seat."

Anyhow, this is getting to be a silly debate that's not even over a larger issue. I appreciated the attempt to show LE in a good light. There are plenty of feel-good instances out there, I just don't see this as a good representative.

 

[Stoic1]

When you have a lot of hammers everything looks like a nail.

 

[Stoic1]

Also, a lot of cops used to be soldiers. And the rest of them that weren't soldiers wish they were. This is what you see.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Thanks for your input officer. Just wondering, did you have to take an IQ test to get hired, where they eliminate people with above-average IQs?

Sorry for shitting on you so bad, peon. Deal with it you damn dirty 3rd worldling.

 

[Greoric]

Also, a lot of cops used to be soldiers. And the rest of them that weren't soldiers wish they were. This is what you see.

This. I'm definitely picking up a lot of wannabe posturing.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

The same agenda is being rolled out across all 1st and 2nd world countries. But it seems furthest ahead in the USA and particularly with regard to recent events. In the false flag Orlando event there were 3 SWAT teams who fired several hundred rounds IIRC, then in Dallas the police ironically sent a bomb robot to blow someone up.

UK police

US police

They are transforming what was a common law free citizens society into a brutal, totalitarian police state and using the good old false flag, ordo ab chaos, problem reaction solution technique to make the more naive among us request and support it. That's the way I see it in a nutshell. What do you think?

Police should definitely be less militarized. They're rapidly becoming an occupying force and viewing us citizens as insurgents.

 

[Greoric]

There's a large component of vets that unconditionally support LE... the key word there being "unconditional." Frankly, I thought I was more or less alone as a skeptic with regard to their armament and TTPs, until I saw this...