Militarised Police

[SMEAC]

I don't have much issue with them having the tools in the box...I have an issue with how much or when they use them sometimes.

That being said police have always used a military structure and have been using military equipment since prohibition

 

[Greoric]

I don't have much issue with them having the tools in the box...I have an issue with how much or when they use them sometimes.

That being said police have always used a military structure and have been using military equipment since prohibition

I'm right on board with your first statement, but its pretty undeniable that they've escalated in the last decade especially.

 

[SMEAC]

I'm right on board with your first statement, but its pretty undeniable that they've escalated in the last decade especially.

Its offensive but its mostly the idiots that didn't do .mil and want to be .mil

I want police to have all the equipment in the world and training. I want it to be used correctly though

 

[sleepwalk]

Giving police the equipment and training they need to respond to extraordinary circumstances shouldn't be a problem. Let's not forget the North Hollywood Shootout or the delays in the Columbine Shootings.

Mind you, this is not to say that every podunk town in America needs an MRAP. As much as BDUs and an outer vest might make the colon clench, the tacticool wacker with the helmet and AR-15 isn't showing up like that to your house to take a stolen bike report.

I don't believe in "false flags" so much as "never let a crisis go to waste." There WILL be a push for nationalization of police in the US. Breaking the unions will be tough but they've managed to practically neuter private sector unions over the past 50 years or so. Hiring standards will have to be lowered, of course. "Lowered?" I meant, "made more fair," of course. Oversight? It's the federal government. Who can keep an eye on things any better than the federal government?

Right wing says, "Look at how the rabble acts. Police protect you from that. Shouldn't they have what they need to protect you? Oversight? Well, if we really need to, maybe a national agency could be created."

Left wing says, "Look at how police are acting. We'll save you from these jackbooted thugs. We'll replace them with a national department. A national department run by us that does what we say. You can trust us, can't you?"

The same agenda is being rolled out across all 1st and 2nd world countries. But it seems furthest ahead in the USA and particularly with regard to recent events. In the false flag Orlando event there were 3 SWAT teams who fired several hundred rounds IIRC, then in Dallas the police ironically sent a bomb robot to blow someone up.

Drone strikes against terrorist target on US soil were authorized by that hope & change fella, weren't they? Must've been Kosher.

 

[Trotsky]

As a current Sheriff in one of, if not the most well known and high profile counties in America, who sits in on daily meetings with the Chief or Captain or Lt. of my precinct, we haven't gotten the memo yet to be more militarized. Funny huh? Actually what we go over is how we can actually better the community, to make sure we are obeying protocol, talking to people and not down or at people. Also have worked closely with LAPD and SWAT and pretty much everyone I have come across, while working or shooting the shit with has been professional. Not buttering you up or bsing you all here, but the media got you all shook. The ignorant morons who pretty much just stick to their own and live a kind of sheltered life in their own culture, aka a lot of BLM, are easily fooled by the media and think every problem in their life is due to racism and white people.

So no TS, the USA is not "furthest ahead", you are mis-informed and or full of shit. You're probably not even American and if you are, chalk another up to being fooled.

Policing will NEVER be perfect, anywhere. Wherever there is a human element involved, in pretty much any field of careers, there will be errors. Let a lone high adrenaline situations that involve peoples lives. Doesn't mean they are racist out to just kill a certain race of people. Think about how dumb it is at the thought police officers just wake up one day and go; "Oh shit, todays the day! I'm going to kill one of them coloreds!! Yeeehawwwww! Who cares if there are video cameras everywhere, I'm just going to be homicidal today due to my racisms."

I assume you mean Cook County? That's what I identify as the most high profile county in America.

And, if so, your city's police are fucking terrible. I actually knew a Chicago PD officer who simultaneously worked for the Italian mob. He would advertise as a hooker on Craigslist, lure stupid men to motels, and then rob them with threat of being beaten with a bat.

He was/is also a huge racist who took a great deal of joy in beating up black men. Last I heard he was no longer working for the mob (not exactly sure how one disassociates), but was still a sleazy cop.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

There are plenty of feel-good instances out there, I just don't see this as a good representative.

I agree.

 

[Thurisaz]

If the police acts like occupying military, they get treated like occupying military.

 

[Concrete Whale]

Police should definitely be less militarized. They're rapidly becoming an occupying force and viewing us citizens as insurgents.

US police call citizens 'civilians' now eh.

All this Thin Blue Line have you thanked a cop today that you lived to see the dawn etc.

 

[livingdeadmoose]

Criminals are stepping up their game so our police need to do the same or get killed.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

I assume you mean Cook County? That's what I identify as the most high profile county in America.

And, if so, your city's police are fucking terrible. I actually knew a Chicago PD officer who simultaneously worked for the Italian mob. He would advertise as a hooker on Craigslist, lure stupid men to motels, and then rob them with threat of being beaten with a bat.

He was/is also a huge racist who took a great deal of joy in beating up black men. Last I heard he was no longer working for the mob (not exactly sure how one disassociates), but was still a sleazy cop.

No. TLDR/TDDR

 

[lfd0311]

Stopped reading at "false flag", then saw who the OP was and laughed.

 

[colby25]

I see the alarm especially since it seems the current administration wants to take our guns.

But at the same token you can't ask police to carry nothing more than a 9mm and a few extra magazines to take on armed suspects with fully automatic weapons- that's just not smart.

Nowadays most "bad guys" have better guns then the run of the mill cop.

 

[djacobox372]

I dont' blame the police for wanting to be well armed, they have a very dangerous job.

Of course it could be worse, they could be the average black man between 15 and 20, who is TWICE as likely to be killed by a police officer than an officer is to be killed on duty.

 

[therealdope]

I assume you mean Cook County? That's what I identify as the most high profile county in America.

And, if so, your city's police are fucking terrible. I actually knew a Chicago PD officer who simultaneously worked for the Italian mob. He would advertise as a hooker on Craigslist, lure stupid men to motels, and then rob them with threat of being beaten with a bat.

He was/is also a huge racist who took a great deal of joy in beating up black men. Last I heard he was no longer working for the mob (not exactly sure how one disassociates), but was still a sleazy cop.

Chicago is a whole other kettle of fish. Nice job they did with their body cams and enacting the law to banning filming cops.

Sounds legit IMO.

 

[therealdope]

Whether people like it or not, police drones are coming. Let's hope with non-lethal weapon tech.

 

[Concrete Whale]

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/24/military-us-police-swat-teams-raids-aclu

The Swat team that burst into the Phonesavanh’s room looking for a drug dealer had deployed a tactic commonly used by the US military in warzones, and increasingly by domestic police forces across the US. They threw an explosive device called a flashbang that is designed to distract and temporarily blind suspects to allow officers to overpower and detain them. The device had landed in Bou Bou’s cot and detonated in the baby’s face.

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Swat teams were a late 1960s invention that emerged out of the Los Angeles police department. Initially, they were designed to help officers react to perilous situations such as riots, hostage taking and where an active shooter was barricaded into a house.

But they have developed into something entirely different. The ACLU survey found that 62% of Swat team call-outs were for drug searches. Some 79% involved raids on private homes, and a similar proportion were done on the back of warrants authorizing searches. By contrast, only about 7% fell into those categories for which the technique was originally intended, such as hostage situations or barricades.

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Research by Peter Kraska, a professor at Kentucky University, has tracked the exponential growth in the use of paramilitary tactics in the US. In the 1980s there were as few as 3,000 Swat raids a year, but by around 2005 that number had leapt to 45,000.

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The amount of equipment handed over can be substantial. North Little Rock police force in Arkansas, for instance, was granted 34 automatic and semi-automatic rifles, two MARCbot robots from Afghanistan that can be weaponised, helmets for ground troops and a tactical armoured vehicle.

Armoured personnel carriers, or APCs, have proliferated dramatically under the 1033 programme. About 500 law enforcement agencies believed to have received military vehicles built specifically to resist roadside bombs. The local police for Ohio state university even has an APC for use on American football match days.

Once the equipment has been handed over, the temptation is to use it. That certainly was the case for the mayor of Peoria, Illinois, who in April sent a Swat team to search the house of someone who had poked fun at him in a satirical Twitter account.

 

[Pixelated Porn]

Look a militarized police is just what we need when they take our guns. Better to give into tyranny and become a metric using Serf than have the power to blow hole in someone carried in your hands.

 

[in the]

I'm sure it was just a "technical glitch"...

 

[Badger67]

Id opt for leaving them as is or less militarization.
They need better training at handling situations. Always felt this way after every encounter ive had, including my most recent this week.