Media Miles Johnes landing glove grab KO

[Trabaho]

Yeah, to be clear I think rules should be enforced more, and that a foul on the first execution should be a point take, the clause in the ruleset about "intent" is vague to the point of ridiculous.

What I'm pointing out (in a sort of sarcastic way) is that cheating in MMA is simply a part of the game, and often the high adrenaline of a fight makes everything a blur anyways. It's tedious to get butthurt about a guy grabbing a glove or whatever in a fight.

He did it premediatedly. Tactically. He trained for it. I read he had 2 warnings for it. 3rd time he was focused, held it and waited for the KO opening. This was intent. No adrenaline. He did it cause he wanted to win even by cheating. It's part of the game to break rules and cheat ?

 

[Trabaho]

Its a fight, stop pretending this is some kind of honorable sport

if you are not cheating you're not trying, especially when fouls dont get a point taken.

This is a scumy sportsman attitude.

LOL at acting like the tough guy threatening to kill people on a karate forum because some one wasnt "honorable" in fucking prize fighting.

Grow up!

I didn't threat anything. I just said that would be fun. Which is obviously bullshit cause I'm raging. Hence I deleted the post. Seems it didn't go trough with the deletion.

 

[Carrotman23]

He did it premediatedly. Tactically. He trained for it. I read he had 2 warning for it. 3rd time he was focused, held.it and waited for the KO opening. This was intent. No adrenaline. He did it cause he wanted to win even by cheating. It's part of the fame to break rules.and cheat ?

You are operating on assumptions, there's simply no way to gage a fighters intent with fouls, a foul is a foul and should always have a point taken regardless of circumstance.

That being said two things can be true at once, and my other point is if you are not cheating you are not trying, and I am simply not outraged by a foul even if he did train it.

If he trained this move and executed it for a win (which is probably giving him too much credit) then good on him.

That's prize fighting for you.

This is a scumy sportsman attitude.

I didn't threat anything. I just said that would be fun. Which is obviously bullshit cause I'm raging. Hence I deleted the post. Seems it getting go trough with the deletion.

Fair enough, I rage at times too, I'm simply saying I don't believe in sportsmanship in prize fighting, especially MMA which has a particularly harsh fighting culture, and I think it's idealistic hand ringing to expect every fighter to have some abstract principle of "honor" especially in the current makeup of the UFC where the winner takes more money.

That being said that's why officials are there, and I think the rules should be enforced more harshly then they currently are.

 

[Trabaho]

You are operating on assumptions, there's simply no way to gage a fighters intent with fouls, a foul is a foul and should always have a point taken regardless of circumstance.

That being said two things can be true at once, and my other point is if you are not cheating you are not trying, and I am simply not outraged by a foul even if he did train it.

If he trained this move and executed it for a win (which is probably giving him too much credit) then good on him.

That's prize fighting for you.


Fair enough, I rage at times too, I'm simply saying I don't believe in sportsmanship in prize fighting, especially MMA which has a particularly harsh fighting culture, and I think it's idealistic hand ringing to expect every fighter to.

That being said that's why officials are there, and I think the rules should be enforced more harshly the they currently are.

How do you accidentaly grab and hook someones glove 3 times and hold it till you land the KO ? Are you naive ?

I'm just sensitive to injustice that ends in bodily harm.

To me fighting is amazing and honorable.

If someone dies from legal techniques I'm fine with it, unfortunate but an accident. Can happen in most things in life. But knocking someones brain out like that with a prohibited technique on purpose. That got me upset. And no punishment but a bonus and highlight from the UFC.

 

[TheMoa]

Here's a GIF for you.

Why the reff is doing a "spider Man" pose on the fence?
Its like he's bracing for something

 

[Carrotman23]

How do you accidentaly grab and hook someones glove 3 times and hold it till you land the KO ? Are you naive ?

I'm just sensitive to injustice that ends in Bodily harm.

To me fighting is amazing and honorable.

I'll repeat myself again;
It's naive to think you can gage what is and isn't intended regarding fouls in a fight.

You are being over dramatic with the term "injustice" regarding a prize fight, I'm sorry to break it to you but there is no justice in this sport, it's a meat grinder of spectacle and brutality.

Fighting is amazing, and it brings out the best in people at times with it's primordial truths.

But it's not honorable, and it eats most people up and spits them out. It's a game, and a brutal one at that.

 

[Johnnny]

That's a dishonorable rogue mindset.

It's reality. Sherdog favourites Fedor, GSP, and Khabib have all cheated in fights.

 

[Trabaho]

You are being over dramatic with the term "injustice" regarding a prize fight, I'm sorry to break it to you but there is no justice in this sport, it's a meat grinder of spectacle and brutality.

" There is no justice in MMA "

Fighting is amazing, and it brings out the best in people at times with it's primordial truths.

But it's not honorable, and it eats most people up and spits them out. It's a game, and a brutal one at that.

"The sport of MMA is not honorable"


Are you sure it's not just a reflection of your morals and people you were exposed to ?

 

[Trabaho]

It's reality. Sherdog favourites Fedor, GSP, and Khabib have all cheated in fights.

Fedor did a little rope thing vs Lindland. Nothing remotely like this

How did Khabib cheat ?

GSP cheated with the vasiline 100%. Hence him being the posterboy of carrying yourself well and being a class act is invalid to me.

Are you a Charles Oliviera fan ? Did you see him hook DPs glove to stop him from escaping ?

 

[Trabaho]

I'll repeat myself again;
It's naive to think you can gage what is and isn't intended regarding fouls in a fight.

How do you unintentionaly hook someones glove 3 times ? And hold it for 7 seconds.

This happens almost never. Cause it's 99% intentional. 3 times and for so long and chanelling the next technique into the hold is 100% intentional.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Similar cheat technique Tim Kennedy used on Yoel Romero before being such a piece of shit that he even falsely accused Romero of cheating while recovering from it.

So glad to see kennedy get left in a Bloody heap moments after that.

I also saw johnny walkers brother do a similar technique when he submitted tafa

 

[Trabaho]

So glad to see kennedy get left in a Bloody heap moments after that.

Saw Tim cry about it to this day. Or say a few months ago. Delusional ego.

I also saw johnny walkers brother do a similar technique when he submitted tafa

So that is why Tafa slapped him ?
I thought Tafa was the douche but seems other Walker was the ass.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

" There is no justice in MMA "


"The sport of MMA is not honorable"


Are you sure it's not just a reflection of your morals and people you were exposed to ?

You hit the nail on the head.

The “if you’re not cheating you’re not trying” in a game of trying to kill each other is a hilarious take on morality.

There is an implicit understanding getting in prize fight with rules and regulations that you won’t break them, otherwise there is nothing to truly prevent life altering attacks - eye gouges/bites/spine strikes/back of the head shots/etc.

Sure they can DQ you, but your opponent can be crippled for life. But I guess “you’re just not trying then” so everything is ok still huh?

But somehow he’ll likely carve out unique caveats for glove grabs, groin strikes, eye pokes, and more minor fouls, even if they lead to devastating finishes…interesting….

He essentially wants to import street fighting mindset into prize fighting spectacle, because his morality dictates as such.

Which is fine, but just acknowledge that you’re the one that doesn’t care about honor/justice/morality, since clearly most fighters do or they would be egregiously cheating all the time instead of a few doing it some of the time.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Saw Tim cry about it to this day. Or say a few months ago. Delusional ego.

So that is why Tafa slapped him ?
I thought Tafa was the douche but seems Other Walker was the ass.

I believe that is why tafa slapped him.

 

[stronghulk]

Yes fights that ends like this should be reviewed and changed to DQ, he won because he broke the rules.

 

[Trabaho]

What benefit is a dq when you got a massive concussion ? That is the least, a dq. Should be bigger punishment. People will. Brush it off that he knocked him oit anyways. Your opponent getting a DQ doesn't help your health and longevity.

Yes fights that ends like this should be reviewed and changed to DQ, he won because he broke the rules.

 

[Trabaho]

You hit the nail on the head.

The “if you’re not cheating you’re not trying” in a game of trying to kill each other is a hilarious take on morality.

There is an implicit understanding getting in prize fight with rules and regulations that you won’t break them, otherwise there is nothing to truly prevent life altering attacks - eye gouges/bites/spine strikes/back of the head shots/etc.

Sure they can DQ you, but your opponent can be crippled for life. But I guess “you’re just not trying then” so everything is ok still huh?

But somehow he’ll likely carve out unique caveats for glove grabs, groin strikes, eye pokes, and more minor fouls, even if they lead to devastating finishes…interesting….

He essentially wants to import street fighting mindset into prize fighting spectacle, because his morality dictates as such.

Which is fine, but just acknowledge that you’re the one that doesn’t care about honor/justice/morality, since clearly most fighters do or they would be egregiously cheating all the time instead of a few doing it some of the time.

He should stick to his hood fight logics and not bring it into a sport like MMA. It is not Worldstar HipHop but Ultimate Fighting Championships. A sport, not a street altercation. Mixed Martial Arts. You see the words Martial and Art. And Sport. Noble things. Of course Brutal. But with clear rules and intent. And a culture. And spectacle. You can do street fighting outside the sport.

 

[stronghulk]

What benefit is a dq when you got a massive concussion ? That is the least, a dq. Should be bigger punishment. People will. Brush it off that he knocked him oit anyways. Your opponent getting a DQ doesn't help your health and longevity.

Agreed, that is the least. But it still stands as a KO victory, which is so strange where fights are won with the help of cheating, like this or big shots to the back of the head. I don't understand why they don't get overturned, and yeah in cases like this maybe a fine aswell if it shows it was intentional cheating.

 

[Trabaho]

Agreed, that is the least. But it still stands as a KO victory, which is so strange where fights are won with the help of cheating, like this or big shots to the back of the head. I don't understand why they don't get overturned, and yeah in cases like this maybe a fine aswell if it shows it was intentional cheating.

Back of the heed are mostly careless, mostly. Mostly mixd legal with a part illegal. Sometimes pure unintentional finishing valor. Still your fault, be more patient. Practice to hit legal, there's fighter who never land anything questionable. Actually the majority.This bro was cheating intentionaly. Look his face, holding waiting for it like a lion vs a gazele.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

He started break dancing from the KO!