When did I ever mention anything about anyone's losses? No shit most high level fighters lose fights Noone denieing that. Only dick riding fanboys like fighters because they are undefeated. I'm literally talking about their skills. How crisp is the jab, timing of takedown, do they turn the corner on the double? How smooth are the transitions on the ground? Do they have good clinch work against the fence or do they just head and arm throw? Idk why this is so hard for you to comprehend... Also were not in a locker room after a fight were on an mma forum talking about fighters and that's exactly what I'm doing.