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Mid-air Collusion (Mueller Thread v. 19)

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waiguoren said:
How do you cap it? I say >95%.
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I think the most likely scenario is Trump starts issuing pardons on people close to him (Paulie and Donny Jr) and then Congress wakes up.

He wouldn't be indicted in that scenario so it's not something I'd be confident betting on.
 
44nutman said:
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This is the resume of an American Patriot.
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waiguoren said:
You said it's "the most likely scenario" and then backtracked in a matter of minutes.
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I gave example of what could happen based on what we know, I don't know what's going to happen and I'm not going to feign certainty like you.
 
OeuvrePressure said:
Donald Trump behaves as though there's no chance the investigation will clear him. Which it could very well do.

But to listen to him bitch-whine, you'd guess he's guilty as hell.
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Or, and stick with me now, Trump thrives off of having an enemy, he’s riling up his base, and when he walks, it will be the death blow to the media and the left. He will quite literally point out you have zero credibility.
 
bobgeese said:
More fan fic from the guy who claims he’s been right more than me.
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You've denied anything happened from the start and have been tripping over yourself to make sense just like the President.
 
Strychnine said:
It's a shame that you've been duped by a Russian plant.

Ronald Regan is rolling in his grave because of people like you.
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I don't think Trump is a Russia plant.

Trump is an idiot well known to Putin from past interactions personally and with other Russians Trump rubbed elbows with.

Putin knew he was a chaotic idiot with an unrelentingly large ego that would do more harm than good and weaken us, that's why he did what he could to support him.

The whole Trump Tower thing reeks of incompetence, not cloak and dagger scheming. They literally didn't see anything wrong with accepting intelligence from a foreign government. They're that dim in Trump's inner circle. Sheltered rich boys with no real life experience with real power.

I don't think incompetence is an excuse however.
 
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Dershowitz: Rudy Giuliani may have used an inartful phrase when he said, "truth isn't truth", but he was absolutely right. Say the president were to be asked the question, "did you discuss Flynn with Comey?" and he says "No." Let's assume that's truthful for a moment. But Comey says "Yes". Or let's assume the president is asked, "Did you know about the meeting in Trump Tower" and he says "no" but then Cohen says "yes". So you have two statements that can't both be true. But we're human beings. We're not sure we can determine what's true or not. The prosecutors may decide that the truth is with Cohen and Comey and not with the president. That's why we defense lawyers call that a "perjury trap." You never allow your client to answer a question truthfully if someone else will answer the question differently and that person may be believed over the truthful answer. That's what Rudy was trying to say. Inartfully put, but the point of it was something every defense attorney would agree to.

@vengeful
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lol two people have differing opinions under oath all the time that are mutually exclusive, you aren't getting perjury charges just because two people disagree as that would be easily 'reasonable doubt' you need more than just two liars disagreeing over the truth.
 
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