MGTOW Channels Demonetized on YouTube

[Ruprecht]

It would be foolish to think that these men would not have whined in such a manner, if they had lived in a construct such as ours.

Any movement to liberate or expand the role of women, was usually met with violent opposition. All you have to do is look at the arguments made by conservative Islamic preachers. There is a definite sense of "victimhood" in the tone that they use, in regards to the male's relationship with the female, as if the male is considered to be defenseless against the powers of manipulation and beauty of the female, and thus, to be "protected" from those powers, by the patriarchal society.

Not really. Mohamed himself advocated for improving the lot of women, even if the reality was they were still effectively treated as chattel. They were still granted inheritance and property rights independent of men. The rights and responsibilities awarded to women were progressive for the time and context. Starting with not killing them at birth.

 

[deadshot138]

Man, if they were really "going their own way" they wouldn't have to whip up fake outrage to stay viable in the current day. Their ethos is "Fuck women, i'm gonna blaze my own trail" and then they gather together like a bunch of average frustrated chumps and commiserate like there's no hope on this earth. Give me a break.

It's hard to take them seriously when they wanna be the omega without any of the struggle. If you're gonna go to the pity party instead of getting shit done, at least make it a circlejerk so everyone leaves happy.

I believe incels try to fly the MGTOW flag and just come off as bitter virgins

 

[Higus]

I said nothing of the sort. I specified that I think government regulation will be related to who and when they will be allowed to issue bans, like there are with other utilities.

lol no

 

[Falsedawn]

I believe incels try to fly the MGTOW flag and just come off as bitter virgins

Can't rule this out either. Some guys can't get pussy, so they try to convince themselves that they don't want pussy.

 

[Andy Capp]

The right wing has not been very good at moderating their own base in public discourse. It's one of those "this is why we can't have nice things" situations. Any forum or platform that is either very loosely moderated and/or has a heavy right wing adoption inevitably becomes overrun racists, fascists, extremists, misogynists, etc. Feel free to try to change my view.


That's a bigger issue that MGTOW. The First Amendment doesn't have the scope to social media or the internet in general. I wonder what the founding fathers would have said if they knew that the main forum for public debate would eventually be privately owned virtual spaces.

They'd say, "What the fuck is a virtual space?"

But you're right. It's a sad, but logical progression. You're allowed to have anti-social views. No private organization has an onus to give you a platform for them.

 

[MilesAbove]

Can't rule this out either. Some guys can't get pussy, so they try to convince themselves that they don't want pussy.

It's just..... if you don't want pussy, that's fine. Nobody gives a shit if they do or don't. To have to make it some sort of moral choice is just passive-aggressive bs .

You don't wanna fuck, don't fuck.

 

[TheGreatA]

Well sure, but I think it's a matter of degrees here. Internalizing something vs externalizing it. "Empowered women" claim that status because it gives them a feeling of agency in the grand process we call society, however small. Claiming the trailblazer status means that one should generally aspire to be a trailblazer, the kind of person you describe, that is lauded instead of self-proclaimed. Taking that aspiration and attempting to browbeat people into recognizing it ain't it.

I've long advocated that downtrodden men should immerse themselves in the manosphere with a single caveat, to always remember to respect women. Because there honestly is a lot of good advice: be more personable, make goals, spend your money wisely, take pride in your work. But I include the caveat because some advocate externalizing against women, or society as a whole, and that's problematic. Until the manosphere itself can control those diversive elements, it's never going to be seen as mainstream friendly, and rightfully so.

And for the rest of us that took the lessons and ran with them, we're part of modern society, and thriving (to an extent). I just can't give them my pity here.

I think men, and people in general, should follow a very simple principle. Respect those who deserve your respect.

When we require respect of people (for example, women), regardless of whether they in actuality deserve that respect, we come to situations where movements such as this can gain a stronghold. Because they point out the hypocrisy of such a standard, which they then use to deflect from their own hypocrisies.

It is only by being purely rational about all this, that we can truly render such movements unnecessary.

The fewer preconceived notions we subscribe to, the better off we are, in most cases. "Respect women", while sounding ideal, may amount to no better than "respecting men". Not all men, or women, are worthy of respect, and often times, when a man ends up pursuing an ideal, they find that reality does not correspond. They find themselves respecting people unworthy of respect, and suffer the consequences, and thus grow bitter and contrarian in thought.

 

[Rusk]

It's not a straw man. I was judging their behaviour, your own statement was that you judged them based on their appearance.

Ok ok, i will try to match your level of autism.

testosterone influences our behavior and looks. No one in the right mind will tell you that Zangvill is masculine, you can see that he got low T, he would probably cry if i would to scream at him.

it even looks like he is crying in the picture...

Masculinity is a big concept, so when i am talking about it i am talking about everything from T level to how people behave. You pulling a strawman by saying that i am talking about looks, after i presented i gif where man kicking a woman.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I believe incels try to fly the MGTOW flag and just come off as bitter virgins

Are you really an involuntary celibate if you forswear relationships with women? But bitter? Hell yeah they come off as bitter.

 

[Wet Blanket]

Yeah sure those masculine feminist men, sticking up for women... <45><45><45>

He is sticking up for women by kicking one? Great example man.

 

[Andy Capp]

I legit laughed at this

I don't know why I haven't put him on ignore yet, but I guess there's entertainment value.

 

[MilesAbove]

Are you really an involuntary celibate if you forswear relationships with women? But bitter? Hell yeah they come off as bitter.

I think the argument is that their "swearing off women" is equivalent to how I swear off Beyonce.

 

[Rusk]

He is sticking up for women by kicking one? Great example man.

are you drunk ?

 

[Wet Blanket]

are you drunk ?

Working on it

 

[Ruprecht]

Ok ok, i will try to match your level of autism.

testosterone influences our behavior and looks. No one in the right mind will tell you that Zangvill is masculine, you can see that he got low T, he would probably cry if i would to scream at him.

it even looks like he is crying in the picture...

Masculinity is a big concept, so when i am talking about it i am talking about everything from T level to how people behave. You pulling a strawman by saying that i am talking about looks, after i presented i gif where man kicking a woman.

Yes, I was talking about the act of him kicking a woman being unmasculine, but even in this very post you're still focused on appearance. Sounds stereotypically effeminate to me.
Hey, masculine ideals are cultural, and the ancient Greeks also idealised male beauty.
But then they also considered sex with men to be masculine...
Neither match my idea of masculinity, and nor does the whinging of the MGTOW.

 

[panamaican]

As I understand this, it happens automatically. The software determines what videos are advertiser friendly and which ones are not. So, if they've been demonetized, it's software based, not "leftists".

 

[TheGreatA]

Not really. Mohamed himself advocated for improving the lot of women, even if the reality was they were still effectively treated as chattel. They were still granted inheritance and property rights independent of men. The rights and responsibilities awarded to women were progressive for the time and context. Starting with not killing them at birth.

Muhammed may have done this, but many of his followers, particularly in today's times, cannot exactly be said to be in favour of expanding the role of women in society.

The hadiths are very, very whiny of women, by all accounts.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/bukhari/006-sbt.htm#001.006.301

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/bukhari/054-sbt.htm#004.054.460

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/bukhari/054-sbt.htm#004.054.464

It appears that even Muhammed's own wife saw him as a bit of a misogynist:

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/muslim/004-smt.htm#004.1037

 

[lifelessheap]

Basically a bunch of guys who can't get sex so they bitch about women on the internet.

Or father's who had their life ruined by sexist, anti male family courts.

I mean, I know a bunch of guys who have been screwed out of everything by the unfair courts.

 

[LMP]

MGTOW is obviously a Alt-Right thing. Why is the Alt-Right full crazy asshats? Anyways this probably shouldnt be happening if there isnt anything offensive on his channel, but im not going to wander through his videos. @sniper what is the verdict on this? Youtube just being a bunch of pricks?

 

[Wet Blanket]

Or father's who had their life ruined by sexist, anti male family courts.

I mean, I know a bunch of guys who have been screwed out of everything by the unfair courts.

Sounds like snowflakes to me.