MGTOW Channels Demonetized on YouTube

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That's cute but those aren't MGTOW videos you're posting. Textbook example of irrelevant.

As for why I'm attacking MGTOW? It's because I think they're losers.

You post like Trotsky. I replace your reality with my opinion.

Your words mean nothing, you have no personal experience with it and you clearly reject anything that goes against your narrow-minded views. As for your "I think", no you dont. You look for what fits your belief and toss out anything that goes against it.

Also, your ending <Dany07><TrumpWrong1><Gordonhat>
 
You post like Trotsky. I replace your reality with my opinion.

Your words mean nothing, you have no personal experience with it and you clearly reject anything that goes against your narrow-minded views. As for your "I think", no you dont. You look for what fits your belief and toss out anything that goes against it.

Also, your ending <Dany07><TrumpWrong1><Gordonhat>

Hmm, the poster dost protest too much, methinks.

I already explained why I reject their philosophy. They are failing at something that men and women have been doing successfully for eternity. And their response to failing at that something is to blame the women.

I can tell you've gone down the rabbit hole with this shit but I'm throwing you a fucking rope here.

All of the men in successful relationships, married or not, cannot know some magical secret that no one else knows. So, if anyone is consistently failing in their relationships, it's probably them. They should figure out the problem and fix it.

Look, you posted a Trump gif.<TrumpWrong1>

The man is a misogynist, a serial cheater, and he's failed at multiple marriages. And you know what? He got married a 3rd time. Trump, the ultimate "take everything personally", guy still got back on the relationship horse. He didn't go all MGTOW and he's a notorious asshole. His sons both got married.

You posted a Jordan Peterson video. Jordan Peterson is married. He did not adopt a MGTOW attitude.

Think about that for a moment and then stop following the MGTOW losers around. Make your bed. Make your life great again. I don't care what the slogan is. Just stop promoting MGTOW losers as an example for any adult male to follow.
 
I already explained why I reject their philosophy. They are failing.

And I already explained that you know nothing about it and you proved it. They are not failing, they cannot fail as its a PERSONAL thing that one does in your own life, and the very ideal that you can judge it is laughable as real men dont care what other people think as they are Going Their OWN Way. Talk about being a fool...

Also you showed you did not even watch the videos by your Peterson comment. You have no context, your opinion is uninformed and does not allow for new information, the very definition of being a moron.

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And I already explained that you know nothing about it and you proved it. They are not failing, they cannot fail as its a PERSONAL thing that one does in your own life, and the very ideal that you can judge it is laughable as real men dont care what other people think as they are Going Their OWN Way. Talk about being a fool...

Also you showed you did not even watch the videos by your Peterson comment. You have no context, your opinion is uninformed and does not allow for new information, the very definition of being a moron.

P.S. <TrumpWrong1>

<NoneOfMy>
lol@your incel outrage towards the most level headed and reasonable mod on Sherdog. This is the hill you want to die on? In defense of Peterson and MGTOW incels?
 
hope you enjoyed each one since you were devouring every morsel.

Yeah, today...after the weekend. The fact that you cannot comprehend the point that posting all weekend long shows you are the incel IS the morsel.

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They will come after progressive channels too. They will come after anyone that rocks the boat.
 
And I already explained that you know nothing about it and you proved it. They are not failing, they cannot fail as its a PERSONAL thing that one does in your own life, and the very ideal that you can judge it is laughable as real men dont care what other people think as they are Going Their OWN Way. Talk about being a fool...

Also you showed you did not even watch the videos by your Peterson comment. You have no context, your opinion is uninformed and does not allow for new information, the very definition of being a moron.

P.S. <TrumpWrong1>

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They make the choice after having failed at something. And rather than getting back on the horse and trying again, they just quit. They accept failure as their permanent state of being.

I've seen the Peterson video before. That one and the one with the woman get posted 2-3x every year. I mentioned the Peterson video, not for the content, but to mention something specific about the individual in it.

And real men do care what other people think. They care what their spouses think, what their children think, what their bosses or their employees think. They care what their parents think. They care if society holds them in positive esteem.

Only losers really don't care what anyone else thinks. Losers, psychopaths and sociopaths. It's unlikely that these guys are all clinically diagnosable so losers is the label for them.
 
What is MGTOW actually about? Is it about men unplugging themselves from societal systems, constructs, and ideas they feel constrain, inhibit, or harm them? Or is Pan's cartoonish characterization of them just being angry incels upset because they have failed in life closer to the truth?

My instinct says the former but I don't want to assume.
 
What is MGTOW actually about? Is it about men unplugging themselves from societal systems, constructs, and ideas they feel constrain, inhibit, or harm them? Or is Pan's cartoonish characterization of them just being angry incels upset because they have failed in life closer to the truth?

My instinct says the former but I don't want to assume.

From what I gather they are not the incel types, but they also don't quite live up to the ideal of unplugging themselves from a degenerate society, even if they strive to.

Some of the resulting bitterness derives from their impotence of accomplishing such a feat, to attain complete individual sovereignty. Which is understandable because that has been the source of existential problems for many generations of men, not merely ours.

The answer is not to grow bitter, but to keep trying, steadily and diligently.
 
From what I gather they are not the incel types, but they also don't quite live up to the ideal of unplugging themselves from a degenerate society, even if they strive to.

Some of the resulting bitterness derives from their impotence of accomplishing such a feat, to attain complete individual sovereignty. Which is understandable because that has been the source of existential problems for many generations of men, not merely ours.

The answer is not to grow bitter, but to keep trying, steadily and diligently.

Right but is that what they strive for? And if that is all it is then why does a person like @panamaican ridicule them in such a way? I would think most men could understand the sentiment of wanting to have sovereignty in ones life. Is it just one of those "i'm better than you because I have done better in life" kind of things?
 
Right but is that what they strive for? And if that is all it is then why does a person like @panamaican ridicule them in such a way? I would think most men could understand the sentiment of wanting to have sovereignty in ones life. Is it just one of those "i'm better than you because I have done better in life" kind of things?

I think it is a matter of the media having painted a very sorry picture of the incel-types and linked them to various killings around the world. People who gain their perspective of the world largely from the mainstream media, are bound to hold such an opinion.

The thing is that MGTOW does not seem to consist so much of the "feared" 4chan incels, but more so bitter ex-husbands or ex-boyfriends. As well as just staunch individualists/egoists as well as "misogynists" who abhor marriage, or women in general.

The demographic is a little bit different, generally older and more "experienced".

While I contest the idea of achieving individual sovereignty through any sort of a social movement, be it MGTOW or whatever, I can certainly understand the impulse behind such a movement. And yes, I do also understand that any movement involving men, and their independence, is bound to have problems involved with it, potentially resulting in violence or radicalized language, due to people residing in an echo chamber.

If we haven't learned to live with it, and avoid the pit-falls of it, in the past thousands of years of civilization, we probably never will.
 
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Right but is that what they strive for? And if that is all it is then why does a person like @panamaican ridicule them in such a way? I would think most men could understand the sentiment of wanting to have sovereignty in ones life. Is it just one of those "i'm better than you because I have done better in life" kind of things?
You could just ask me.

I ridicule them because their solution to not having sovereignty in their lives involves demeaning an entire gender.

What they are struggling with is something that plenty of people, male and female struggle with. If they simply said that they are struggling with something and asked for patience, they would get it.But they don't. They are projecting their struggles externally. They put down others to make themselves feel better. That deserves ridicule.
 
You could just ask me.

I ridicule them because their solution to not having sovereignty in their lives involves demeaning an entire gender.

Why would anyone ask you when you clearly know nothing about it. There is nothing about MGTOW that demands demeaning an entire gender. Not wanting to give up YOUR sovereignty or pointing out that laws right now make a long term relationship completely one sided is not "demeaning" to women...well, accept for radfems that deem EVERYTHING a man does demeaning.
 
What is MGTOW actually about? Is it about men unplugging themselves from societal systems, constructs, and ideas they feel constrain, inhibit, or harm them? Or is Pan's cartoonish characterization of them just being angry incels upset because they have failed in life closer to the truth?

My instinct says the former but I don't want to assume.
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This is the typical conversation in r/mgtow, the largest mgtow community on the internet.


This is a MGTOW "thought leader" attempting to remold Plato's Allegory of the Cave to address the dire situation modern men are trapped in.
 
They make the choice after having failed at something. And rather than getting back on the horse and trying again, they just quit. They accept failure as their permanent state of being.

You keep repeating the same false information as if its true. Do you work for CNN or Fox?

I have proven you wrong. Its up to you to prove that all MGTOW members are choosing to be permanently single and go without sex. The ball is in your court, have fun. Oh wait, you will just ignore this because you are talking out of your ass.
 
You keep repeating the same false information as if its true. Do you work for CNN or Fox?

I have proven you wrong. Its up to you to prove that all MGTOW members are choosing to be permanently single and go without sex. The ball is in your court, have fun. Oh wait, you will just ignore this because you are talking out of your ass.
I never said all. I criticized the movement writ large. I'm sure some of them aren't losers.
 
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