Meltzer: #183 - Over 500k, but less than #182

[DGT4NOW]

UFC 182 Jones vs Cormier ---- 800K

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

Thx, I did not know Meltzer said it hit 800k
As someone else also pointed out, the last thing we heard was 750-800

 

[Captain_Dammitt]

In a 12 month period where 4 PPVs did under 200k, 750 is the new million lol

184 might break the million mark...

Really, probably only does 150k.

 

[DGT4NOW]

184 might break the million mark...

Really, probably only does 150k.

Nah, I would put it about 300k

 

[HaterSlayer]

184 might break the million mark...

Really, probably only does 150k.

It would have hit 500K if the event didn't fall apart. UFC 185 is great on paper, but I don't think the people are as well known. I'd be happy if Pettis started blowing up. The next big PPV probably wont be until Jones-Rumble in May.

 

[FootstompShonie]

Nice. I'm no UFC shill they make dope-headed decisions constantly, but i don't want them to do poorly, just like I don't want to see Bellator, ONE FC, or any MMA org do poorly.

 

[Captain_Dammitt]

Aldo vs McGregor needs to do some numbers.

 

[DGT4NOW]

Nice. I'm no UFC shill they make dope-headed decisions constantly, but i don't want them to do poorly, just like I don't want to see Bellator, ONE FC, or any MMA org do poorly.

Me as well
Its good to see some cards doing over 500k
They day of that being the norm are over

 

[DGT4NOW]

Aldo vs McGregor needs to do some numbers.

I think that will
Aldo seems to know he needs to give Conor stuff to run with & of course Conor will

 

[eizen]

Stipe was on the Facebook prelims
Wild card looking back

Pettis was on it as well.

 

[DGT4NOW]

Pettis was on it as well.

Yeah on the prelim
I might go back & rewatch it

 

[Billthebutcher2]

So how much does Nick Diaz make if it's 500PPV buys? Does he get $3 per PPV buy?

Want to make sure he gets paid for that entertaining performance.

I'd rather he came to actually fight and not clown around. For a volume puncher he had almost no volume, too scared to engage. I don't think he's worth any of that. I don't think it's cool that Diaz taunts people, then does little while they circle and pick him apart for 5 rounds and then complains after thinking he actually won. It was only competitive because Anderson has bizarre performances when people don't engage him, and Diaz barely did that, so he was content to pick him apart and coast like he did to Cote, Leites, and Maia. Diaz didn't come to win that fight at all, not like he has done with people like Cyborg, Penn, Paul Daley. It's like when he fights somebody superior like Condit, GSP, and Anderson, he's content to lose a decision, then just complain later. Why people find this Nick Diaz entertaining, I don't know. It's kind of amusing until you realize he's not actually going to do much fighting.

 

[Billthebutcher2]

Outside of when he fights guys who are hugely marketable like GSP and Anderson, who drive most of the buyrate themselves, Nick Diaz hasn't really been a draw. His fight with Penn received less buys than some of Penn's other headliners, like with Diego Sanchez for example. He's never actually driven it on his own, so I don't think he's worth giving much, if any, of a PPV cut to. He has a rabid segment of fans, but they are mostly just the loudest guys in the corner of a bar. This PPV buyrate will be typical of what Anderson gets for his lower selling main events in the last several years.

 

[DGT4NOW]

Outside of when he fights guys who are hugely marketable like GSP and Anderson, who drive most of the buyrate themselves, Nick Diaz hasn't really been a draw. His fight with Penn received less buys than some of Penn's other headliners, like with Diego Sanchez for example. He's never actually driven it on his own, so I don't think he's worth giving much, if any, of a PPV cut to. He has a rabid segment of fans, but they are mostly just the loudest guys in the corner of a bar. This PPV buyrate will be typical of what Anderson gets for his lower selling main events in the last several years.

I agree & with his performance in the last 3 fights, his stock went lower
Add in the latest suspension & who knows if UFC even bothers or cares after his next suspension

 

[rjmbrd]

Outside of when he fights guys who are hugely marketable like GSP and Anderson, who drive most of the buyrate themselves, Nick Diaz hasn't really been a draw.

Let's compare apples to apples. Nick absolutely blew away the buyrates when Georges fought Condit and Hendricks.

So if you compare Nick to his peers -vs- the very same opponent, he does better. Not marginally better, but hundreds of thousands of buys better. That means when you pair Nick up with an anchor, he is a demonstrably bigger draw then other guys in the division.

His fight with Penn received less buys than some of Penn's other headliners, like with Diego Sanchez for example

That card promised GSP, Diaz, Condit and Penn. It delivered exactly 50% of that. Cards don't recover from losing half of their headlines, especially when its a fight that didn't need to happen and wasn't particularly meaningful in the division itself.

Penn wasn't the undisputed champion when he fought Diaz, he was the two time loser to Edgar who went to a majority draw with Fitch. Be reasonable.

He's never actually driven it on his own, so I don't think he's worth giving much, if any, of a PPV cut to.

Well the UFC doesn't pay him a PPV cut because they hate money. Use your brain.

 

[DGT4NOW]

That card promised GSP, Diaz, Condit and Penn. It delivered exactly 50% of that. Cards don't recover from losing half of their headlines, especially when its a fight that didn't need to happen and wasn't particularly meaningful in the division itself.

Very fair

 

[illy]

I'd rather he came to actually fight and not clown around. For a volume puncher he had almost no volume, too scared to engage. I don't think he's worth any of that. I don't think it's cool that Diaz taunts people, then does little while they circle and pick him apart for 5 rounds and then complains after thinking he actually won. It was only competitive because Anderson has bizarre performances when people don't engage him, and Diaz barely did that, so he was content to pick him apart and coast like he did to Cote, Leites, and Maia. Diaz didn't come to win that fight at all, not like he has done with people like Cyborg, Penn, Paul Daley. It's like when he fights somebody superior like Condit, GSP, and Anderson, he's content to lose a decision, then just complain later. Why people find this Nick Diaz entertaining, I don't know. It's kind of amusing until you realize he's not actually going to do much fighting.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Silva is not the only counter-striker. Nick is one as well. He needs to stay at a certain range to make you feel uncomfortable which in turn makes you throw, and this is where he'll find openings to counter you with. With a longer, rangier, quicker, faster, stronger Silva that is amazing at keeping his distance just outside of your range at all times, this is the type of fight you get.

Everyone that uses these dumb arguments to try to talk down Nick's performance is completely biased and doesn't really understand why the fight looked the way it did. Just read what you wrote. You're basically saying that you're not happy because Diaz didn't run in to get Christ Leben'ed or Forrest Griffin'ed. If anything, he should be praised for not falling into trap of the most elite counter-strike in the UFC in an entire weightclass above his normal one, and he actually stayed pretty damn competitive. They both fought tentative because they both respected each other out there, both taking turns to lead and counter.

Hate all you want. No one else will say that they have fought Condit / GSP / Anderson back to back to back.

 

[DGT4NOW]

Hate all you want. No one else will say that they have fought Condit / GSP / Anderson back to back to back.

True & he won on only 5 of the 45 rds on the total cards too

that 11% ratio might be the worst ever recorded 15 rd (3 fight) main event performance in history

 

[illy]

True & he won on only 5 of the 45 rds on the total cards too

that 11% ratio might be the worst ever recorded 15 rd (3 fight) main event performance in history

And you think a lot of people would do better against GSP / Anderson, 2 GOAT's, back to back? You make it sound like i'm saying Nick is the GOAT. I'm saying he held his own and he most definitely did better than almost everyone thought he would, against the absolute elite in 2 weightclasses. That's a fact.

 

[DGT4NOW]

And you think a lot of people would do better against GSP / Anderson, 2 GOAT's, back to back? You make it sound like i'm saying Nick is the GOAT. I'm saying he held his own and he most definitely did better than almost everyone thought he would. That's a fact.

Are you nuts?
The only fact is you are NUTS

Seriously
He was favored over Condit you know? (you left out Condit, which I included)

You really think winning 11% of the scorecards is BETTER than people thought?

 

[illy]

Are you nuts?
The only fact is you are NUTS

Seriously
He was favored over Condit you know? (you left out Condit, which I included)

You really think winning 11% of the scorecards is BETTER than people thought?

OMG AM I NUTS? I'M NUTS!! WOW. Thanks for that info.

That Condit fight was very controversial. Depending on how you wanted to look at it, it could have gone either way.

When I said he did better than everyone thought he would do, I was talking specifically about the Silva fight. He was supposed to get completely squashed and taken out within the first 2 if I remember by most people's predictions. A complete joke of a match. That never happened.

GSP, come on. Everyone knew he was going to get laid on, but people love him so much and the UFC knows this. They only made it to see if there was any possible way that Nick could overcome that hurdle. It's not like Diaz has a great history with wrestlers, but even then, he stuffed a LOT more takedowns than people thought he would be capable of.

You're only spewing things to try and undermine a fighter and their accomplishments. I'm trying to give reasons as to why people respect him and like him. You tell me what's more pathetic.