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That means I'm drinking quality beer. If you'd like to expand, I'll be here for awhile.
Meat is a great poster, and admin. is a thankless job but...
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That means I'm drinking quality beer. If you'd like to expand, I'll be here for awhile.
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Thanks for the clarification. Do you have any other -on the record- comments to add to the situation while we're both here?
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Let me start by repeating a couple of things here that I've said several times already, just so that even if you decide to ignore them, I've done everything I can to make them clear.
1)Even though I had no interest in fucking up anyone elses site, or in any way sullying the SD name or causing SD trouble, and even though I didn't so much as make 1 post on the XMA site, I stepped up and tried to take responsibility for the problems that were created. I wrote the apology to the both on my own volition. I said I was on the who posted the thread, and even though I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I was perfectly willing to take the blame, admit I had made an error in judgement, apologize, and take whatever punishment you wanted to hand down. You dubbed me. I have no problem with that. You were very nice about it, and you kindly and directly informed me about it, which I apreciated. I have no problem with any of that at all, but I sure as fuck took responsibility, and I sure as fuck haven't bitched on bit about my punishment.
2)Instead of getting hostile about the PMs, or dodging the question about talking about them, why didn't you just say "This stuff was pilfered from Dras PM box unfairly, and I'm not really that comfortable with talking about the PM's specifically because that never should have been public domain." I personally would have said, ok, I respect that, that's fair enough to me. But you didn't.
3)All that I have heard said about AM and Cyber and why they were banned, and from what I've heard from them, all that they've heard second hand, is that they were banned related to the XMA posts. THE DID NOTHING WRONG RELATED TO THE XMA forum. The posts they made there were perfectly legitimate posts, under similar psuedonyms to their names here, that they never would have signed up under if they realized that idiots were going to cause chaos. I would like to see any proof (Post either from the XMA site, or from Sherdog) that Cyber or AM committed ANY wrongdoing at all. If they were banned for the XMA incident, they were banned for something they had nothing to do with.
The other banned members I can't speak for, because I don't even know why most of them were banned, because no one seems to want to communicate that information.
And what about clarifying the rules so we don't have future problem? Why was it ok when Hemi posted personal info, but not ok for Tiki?
I know you work very hard for this site. I appreciate that. I know you can't be on all the time, and I don't expext you to be. And I know you don't have to justify ever deal of you governing to the Sherdog masses. But how much easier could this be for everyone if you were just willing to communicate a little bit?
And for the record, I don't think that harassing someone, or destroying someones forum is OK in the least. That's not my argument, at all.
1)Even though I had no interest in fucking up anyone elses site, or in any way sullying the SD name or causing SD trouble, and even though I didn't so much as make 1 post on the XMA site, I stepped up and tried to take responsibility for the problems that were created. I wrote the apology to the both on my own volition. I said I was on the who posted the thread, and even though I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I was perfectly willing to take the blame, admit I had made an error in judgement, apologize, and take whatever punishment you wanted to hand down. You dubbed me. I have no problem with that. You were very nice about it, and you kindly and directly informed me about it, which I apreciated. I have no problem with any of that at all, but I sure as fuck took responsibility, and I sure as fuck haven't bitched on bit about my punishment.
2)Instead of getting hostile about the PMs, or dodging the question about talking about them, why didn't you just say "This stuff was pilfered from Dras PM box unfairly, and I'm not really that comfortable with talking about the PM's specifically because that never should have been public domain." I personally would have said, ok, I respect that, that's fair enough to me. But you didn't.
3)All that I have heard said about AM and Cyber and why they were banned, and from what I've heard from them, all that they've heard second hand, is that they were banned related to the XMA posts. THE DID NOTHING WRONG RELATED TO THE XMA forum. The posts they made there were perfectly legitimate posts, under similar psuedonyms to their names here, that they never would have signed up under if they realized that idiots were going to cause chaos. I would like to see any proof (Post either from the XMA site, or from Sherdog) that Cyber or AM committed ANY wrongdoing at all. If they were banned for the XMA incident, they were banned for something they had nothing to do with.
The other banned members I can't speak for, because I don't even know why most of them were banned, because no one seems to want to communicate that information.
And what about clarifying the rules so we don't have future problem? Why was it ok when Hemi posted personal info, but not ok for Tiki?
I know you work very hard for this site. I appreciate that. I know you can't be on all the time, and I don't expext you to be. And I know you don't have to justify ever deal of you governing to the Sherdog masses. But how much easier could this be for everyone if you were just willing to communicate a little bit?
And for the record, I don't think that harassing someone, or destroying someones forum is OK in the least. That's not my argument, at all.
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Brainuse
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Cybercoma has requested via AIM, that I post this here in his defense.
cybercoma: I was NOT addressed. Period.
cybercoma: I did NOT call DRA or karebear. Period.
cybercoma: I did NOT post their personal information on the forums. Period.
cybercoma: I did NOT wave the sherdog banner or post porn on XMA. Period.
cybercoma: I was NOT addressed. Period.
cybercoma: I did NOT call DRA or karebear. Period.
cybercoma: I did NOT post their personal information on the forums. Period.
cybercoma: I did NOT wave the sherdog banner or post porn on XMA. Period.
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I responded to the pilfered shit because I could back up the content and I wasn't worried about it.
AM and Cybercoma admitted to be involve and the admin decision was to shitcan all involve. The site is fucked and no one cares to look into the personal capacity. If you don't want to be bannned.....don't do stupid shit. As far as the ego shit goes, I pm'ed Sherdog and Garrett before anything was done. If you'd like to offer your case feel free.
AM and Cybercoma admitted to be involve and the admin decision was to shitcan all involve. The site is fucked and no one cares to look into the personal capacity. If you don't want to be bannned.....don't do stupid shit. As far as the ego shit goes, I pm'ed Sherdog and Garrett before anything was done. If you'd like to offer your case feel free.
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Brainuse
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I would like to see the proof of them admitting to be involved. I don't even believe that Am ever posted anything in my thread. I believe he had 3 legit posts on the XMA site. I think Cyber may have posted in my thread, however I am positive he did not post anything in any way incriminating, because he did not do anything incriminating. Many other people posted in my thread. I do not in any way wish to get any of them in trouble, because most of them did NOTHING wrong, but they were not punished?
The people who did damage to the XMA site, generally did it under anonymous "Guest" tags.
Those that you are accusing of causing this problem... where is the proof? There is no proof they did anything wrong because they didn't.
You don't care to look into the personal capacity? So you're just going to ban random people whether they had anything to do with it or not?
The people who did damage to the XMA site, generally did it under anonymous "Guest" tags.
Those that you are accusing of causing this problem... where is the proof? There is no proof they did anything wrong because they didn't.
You don't care to look into the personal capacity? So you're just going to ban random people whether they had anything to do with it or not?
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Hey Meat,
So is DRA banned permanently or not?
So is DRA banned permanently or not?
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1)Even though I had no interest in fucking up anyone elses site, or in any way sullying the SD name or causing SD trouble, and even though I didn't so much as make 1 post on the XMA site, I stepped up and tried to take responsibility for the problems that were created.
Congratulations.
I wrote the apology to the both on my own volition. I said I was on the who posted the thread, and even though I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I was perfectly willing to take the blame, admit I had made an error in judgement, apologize, and take whatever punishment you wanted to hand down. You dubbed me. I have no problem with that. You were very nice about it, and you kindly and directly informed me about it, which I apreciated. I have no problem with any of that at all, but I sure as fuck took responsibility, and I sure as fuck haven't bitched on bit about my punishment.
Everyone thought you should be banned.
2)Instead of getting hostile about the PMs, or dodging the question about talking about them, why didn't you just say "This stuff was pilfered from Dras PM box unfairly, and I'm not really that comfortable with talking about the PM's specifically because that never should have been public domain." I personally would have said, ok, I respect that, that's fair enough to me. But you didn't.
Because I didn't say anything I'm ashamed about. Why should people respond to a message from someone else and have to worry about answering for it publicly. It's illegal. I wasn't obligated I just didn't have anything to hide. If I would have I wouldn't have agreed to iit and people could suck a dick.
3)All that I have heard said about AM and Cyber and why they were banned, and from what I've heard from them, all that they've heard second hand, is that they were banned related to the XMA posts. THE DID NOTHING WRONG RELATED TO THE XMA forum. The posts they made there were perfectly legitimate posts, under similar psuedonyms to their names here, that they never would have signed up under if they realized that idiots were going to cause chaos. I would like to see any proof (Post either from the XMA site, or from Sherdog) that Cyber or AM committed ANY wrongdoing at all. If they were banned for the XMA incident, they were banned for something they had nothing to do with.
The other banned members I can't speak for, because I don't even know why most of them were banned, because no one seems to want to communicate that information.
And what about clarifying the rules so we don't have future problem? Why was it ok when Hemi posted personal info, but not ok for Tiki?
I know you work very hard for this site. I appreciate that. I know you can't be on all the time, and I don't expext you to be. And I know you don't have to justify ever deal of you governing to the Sherdog masses. But how much easier could this be for everyone if you were just willing to communicate a little bit?
And for the record, I don't think that harassing someone, or destroying someones forum is OK in the least. That's not my argument, at all. [/B][/QUOTE]
Congratulations.
I wrote the apology to the both on my own volition. I said I was on the who posted the thread, and even though I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I was perfectly willing to take the blame, admit I had made an error in judgement, apologize, and take whatever punishment you wanted to hand down. You dubbed me. I have no problem with that. You were very nice about it, and you kindly and directly informed me about it, which I apreciated. I have no problem with any of that at all, but I sure as fuck took responsibility, and I sure as fuck haven't bitched on bit about my punishment.
Everyone thought you should be banned.
2)Instead of getting hostile about the PMs, or dodging the question about talking about them, why didn't you just say "This stuff was pilfered from Dras PM box unfairly, and I'm not really that comfortable with talking about the PM's specifically because that never should have been public domain." I personally would have said, ok, I respect that, that's fair enough to me. But you didn't.
Because I didn't say anything I'm ashamed about. Why should people respond to a message from someone else and have to worry about answering for it publicly. It's illegal. I wasn't obligated I just didn't have anything to hide. If I would have I wouldn't have agreed to iit and people could suck a dick.
3)All that I have heard said about AM and Cyber and why they were banned, and from what I've heard from them, all that they've heard second hand, is that they were banned related to the XMA posts. THE DID NOTHING WRONG RELATED TO THE XMA forum. The posts they made there were perfectly legitimate posts, under similar psuedonyms to their names here, that they never would have signed up under if they realized that idiots were going to cause chaos. I would like to see any proof (Post either from the XMA site, or from Sherdog) that Cyber or AM committed ANY wrongdoing at all. If they were banned for the XMA incident, they were banned for something they had nothing to do with.
The other banned members I can't speak for, because I don't even know why most of them were banned, because no one seems to want to communicate that information.
And what about clarifying the rules so we don't have future problem? Why was it ok when Hemi posted personal info, but not ok for Tiki?
I know you work very hard for this site. I appreciate that. I know you can't be on all the time, and I don't expext you to be. And I know you don't have to justify ever deal of you governing to the Sherdog masses. But how much easier could this be for everyone if you were just willing to communicate a little bit?
And for the record, I don't think that harassing someone, or destroying someones forum is OK in the least. That's not my argument, at all. [/B][/QUOTE]
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RCCOLA. You're a fucking idiot and you've caused me nothing but shit since you've been here. I've butsted my ass to help you but I'm going to block you permanently from OT and if you don't like it I'll delete yor account. In essence, fuck you.
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KARL LENIN
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You.... you had me at "Hello".
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Brainuse
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I'm not asking for kudos nor was I intimating that I did nothing wrong. You decided that the personal shot below was necessary, so I defended myself. I take responsibility for my actions, I admit when I make mistakes, and I am sure as shit willing to explain myself. At least aim at some of my considerable actual flaws if you want to drop down to that level.
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I had you well before 'hello'.
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Did AM or Cyber post in that thread?
Did they post any links back to Sherdog or represent Sherdog in any way?
Did they post porn?
Did they come back on to sherdog and leave any evidence here that they had done anything unsavory?
AM and Cyber posted on another forum on the internet. That is all. Are you going to ban everyone who posts at IL? Who posts in a video game forum?
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Originally posted by Brainuse
I'm not asking for kudos nor was I intimating that I did nothing wrong. You decided that the personal shot below was necessary, so I defended myself. I take responsibility for my actions, I admit when I make mistakes, and I am sure as shit willing to explain myself. At least aim at some of my considerable actual flaws if you want to drop down to that level.
You sound like a whiiny little
here so I'm going to ban you. Find my home number and gut me like a carp.
