Media Mayweather squealing against Maidana

What a ridiculous thing to say. A man who fights undefeated his entire career, P4P the best on the planet for most of that time, moved up from 130lbs to 154lbs fighting most of the best on the planet makes him one of the toughest men to ever live.
He has a point though. As the A-side Floyd wouldn't even allow Maidana to wear the gloves of his choice despite the commission having already approved them. In fact, Floyd's team wouldn't let him wear either the standard Everlast MX or Cleto Reyes puncher's gloves. They wanted him to wear a protective glove made by Grant which is what Floyd himself wears. Controlling the gloves of your opponent so that you don't feel their knuckles as much? That's ridiculous.
 
Maidana placed the pressure enough to create questions on whether Floyd was actually deflecting or surviving. Neither Broner or mayweather expected that. Maidana just hits and hits and countering is often pointless because he just didnt care.
Maidana landed that punch on him right before the bell, that had he landed with 30 seconds, mightve been able to finish Floyd. Certainly wouldve dropped him.
He was rocked twice by Mosley but that Maidana punch really fucked him up at the moment.
 
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The internet badass club calling Floyd Mayweather a wimpy baby, classic shit right there.
 
Oh how they do love their floyd. People call Ali a coward and I don't like that much so I guess I understand.
Neither is a coward of course. Anyone that steps through the ropes isn't (except Charlie Z and guys like that). Years ago when Pac said that he was "afraid of needles" I called it weak just the same. He got his tattoos and that pierced ear somehow. Unless they're fake and he's rocking a clip-on then he's been stuck before. Personally I've never been a fanboy of either Pac or Floyd. I think they're the two most toxic fanbases in recent memory.
 
Neither is a coward of course. Anyone that steps through the ropes isn't (except Charlie Z and guys like that). Years ago when Pac said that he was "afraid of needles" I called it weak just the same. He got his tattoos and that pierced ear somehow. Unless they're fake and he's rocking a clip-on then he's been stuck before. Personally I've never been a fanboy of either Pac or Floyd. I think they're the two most toxic fanbases in recent memory.
Pac is lovable at least when he's not claiming a shoulder injury,cramps or erectile dysfunction.
 
Pac is lovable at least when he's not claiming a shoulder injury,cramps or erectile dysfunction.
Or saying homophobic things in the name of religion. That cost him an extremely lucrative Nike sponsorship. They dropped him like a bad habit once it hit the mainstream news cycle.
 
He has a point though. As the A-side Floyd wouldn't even allow Maidana to wear the gloves of his choice despite the commission having already approved them. In fact, Floyd's team wouldn't let him wear either the standard Everlast MX or Cleto Reyes puncher's gloves. They wanted him to wear a protective glove made by Grant which is what Floyd himself wears. Controlling the gloves of your opponent so that you don't feel their knuckles as much? That's ridiculous.

That's a power flex. Floyd believed he ran boxing at the time. The idea that some b-side could have his way over him pissed him off. I'll give you he had/has a VERY fragile ego. But in the ring, soft? Ridiculous. You don't achieve what he achieved being soft. It's a completely absurd accusation. He didn't have to prove his toughness in a way like Gatti proved his toughness because he had too much skill for that.
 
That's a power flex. Floyd believed he ran boxing at the time. The idea that some b-side could have his way over him pissed him off. I'll give you he had/has a VERY fragile ego. But in the ring, soft? Ridiculous. You don't achieve what he achieved being soft. It's a completely absurd accusation. He didn't have to prove his toughness in a way like Gatti proved his toughness because he had too much skill for that.
It's being a diva and was a bad look for him. I can't name another ATG that ever used their A-side advantage to dictate what gloves their opponent could wear after they were already approved by the commission.
 
I can understand what you're saying and I can't really speak for everyone but anytime I've ever taken shots to the face/head I can't really say that it was painful I mean you feel it but it's not pain as I think of it such as getting burned, spraining an ankle or tweaking a knee etc
It's not just about pain tolerance. Getting hit in the face actually doesn't hurt you're right. But you can't be mentally weak and be as disciplined and train as hard for decades as Floyd did. Hours of training, miles of running, and strength and conditioning work on a near daily basis for decades is insane to the vast majority of people. Sparring and fighting all sorts of people including guys naturally bigger than you. How is that not "tough" I don't know. You can excuse it by saying Floyd had natural talent but there are plenty of cases of guys with god gifted ability who squandered it with a lack of discipline and mental weakness. Floyd wasn't one of them.

I also think there's different kinds of "toughness."
 
It's being a diva and was a bad look for him. I can't name another ATG that ever used their A-side advantage to dictate what gloves their opponent could wear after they were already approved by the commission.

It's a diva move because you've been on top for so long so you decide to let Maidana know who's boss. Also I remember that whole debacle. The gloves which Maidana was going to wear did look extremely thin around the knuckle area which is what Floyd took issue with.
 
It's being a diva and was a bad look for him. I can't name another ATG that ever used their A-side advantage to dictate what gloves their opponent could wear after they were already approved by the commission.

Also IIRC, the Maidana fight was around the time Roger was starting to lose his faculties (wandering off alone) and Floyd had spoken about the fear he had about brain damage. I think he even mentioned losing parts of his memory then too, so he was worried about taking too many shots, especially against a naturally heavy-handed fighter like Maidana. That isn't a lack of toughness, it's about being human.
 
It's a diva move because you've been on top for so long so you decide to let Maidana know who's boss. Also I remember that whole debacle. The gloves which Maidana was going to wear did look extremely thin around the knuckle area which is what Floyd took issue with.
Floyd and his team objected to the Everlast MX gloves and the commission agreed. Then standard Cleto Reyes gloves were presented, which had already been approved by the commission, and Floyd and his team objected to those as well. The point is that no other ATG has ever done this to my knowledge. Maidana had already made multiple concessions - gave up home advantage, Floyd being able to control the timing of the bout, deciding whether a rematch clause was present, and naturally getting a much smaller purse split and PPV cut. So, Maidana already knew that Floyd was the boss. That's a given.
 
Yes, I know, they both played their games, no one's excuse was really that good and I can't speak for manny's reasons but I know that Mayweather wanted nothing to do with the guy that beat Oscar, nothing. And yes, I'd have been suspicious about that superhuman performance too but ask yourself, would an Ali, would a Ray Leonard(he might), would a Marvin Hagler avoid a fight like that? Would Sugar Ray Robinson? Robinson only avoided a good fighter if there was nothing to gain, not the case here.
Manny publicly turned down an actual contract. What did Mayweather do again? I’m talking about something that’s actually tangible, that was recorded, not just how you feel.


it's the tone that's kinda odd, boxers usually grunt when they "scream" it's involuntary and honestly doesn't mean anything other than what I said, something happened that wasn't expected and it was painful. Ray Robinson claims jake hit him in the body so hard tears came to his eyes. Ali was said to have made an oomph sound that was totally involuntary when a football player he fought early in his career socked him in the stomach "seemed all the way up to the elbow" according to the journalist who retold the story. Ali also bent over when Kenny Norton popped him in the ribs (probably hitting upon his old, incessant rib injury). Pain is pain really, bodyshots hurt more than head shots and head shots really don't hurt that bad usually, "hurt" from headshots is meant to mean buzzed more than pain and yes, some fighters freak out if they get hit hard enough and change how they're fighting. I still believe Roy Jones dominated in his prime because he got respect early and tamed these guys with his awesome speed and power. That, in my opinion/theory, was his mo. Take the fight out of a guy early and play the rest of the time. My question was always, what would happen to a guy who wouldn't yield to that? He didn't fight too many of those, merqui sosa was one and he had Roy in serious trouble for a couple seconds until all that bravery just got him knocked on his ass and stopped.
People make weird noises when they can’t actually hear themselves. There’s also the part where you could be wanting the referee to see what just happened.

The biteforce of a human is low as it is. Now have them wear a mouthguard and try and bite through a thick foam-padded glove with handwraps underneath only to reach the hand itself that's been numbed by lidocaine. Yeah, that's being a baby.
If we’re comparing it to other animals, sure. But I don’t see how that means it wouldn’t hurt if one human is biting another human? A human bite wouldn’t hurt a lion but it would hurt another human. I don’t see how that’s relevant at all.
So for starters, we’re going to have to post proof that lidocaine was actually used for this fight. To my knowledge it was only used in his earlier fights, when his hands first started breaking. Then like I said before, a mouth guard would add to the pressure you can make get through the glove. Lastly, have you ever tried it before? I think I would rather believe Floyd Mayweather than some random guy who has never laced up a pair of gloves in his life. But that’s just me.

Nah ...mouthpiece, extra thick gloves and handwraps?
For the purpose of getting through the glove, I would argue that the mouthpiece would make it worse. It would add to the force you can put out because it would increase the surface area, and it would prevent you from hurting your own teeth. Teeth would only be worse if you were directly biting skin because you can pierce the skin.
 
Floyd and his team objected to the Everlast MX gloves and the commission agreed. Then standard Cleto Reyes gloves were presented, which had already been approved by the commission, and Floyd and his team objected to those as well. The point is that no other ATG has ever done this to my knowledge. Maidana had already made multiple concessions - gave up home advantage, Floyd being able to control the timing of the bout, deciding whether a rematch clause was present, and naturally getting a much smaller purse split and PPV cut. So, Maidana already knew that Floyd was the boss. That's a given.
You’ve never heard of it because you’re not dead set on painting any other fighter as a coward. Look no further than the career of …the guy we’re talking about. Oscar chose the gloves that Mayweather used in their fight. It just wasn’t heavily publicized.
And you’re saying home town advantage? Are you serious? Since when does the more recognized champion, bigger, longer reigning champion have to give in to the demands of the other guy? What a bizarre, non realistic perspective to have.
 
Oscar chose the gloves that Mayweather used in their fight. It just wasn’t heavily publicized.
And you’re saying home town advantage? Are you serious? Since when does the more recognized champion, bigger, longer reigning champion have to give in to the demands of the other guy? What a bizarre, non realistic perspective to have.
Source for the first claim? Yes, it's a fact that Maidana fought Floyd in his own backyard. Completely normal to do when facing the A-side but that doesn't change the fact that he was inherently at a disadvantage in that regard.
 
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