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Mayhem Miller is the one who started this.

I'm too dense/uninformed, brother. I don't get this reference.
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Or she could even just brush her tongue properly. I've had to teach more than a few women to brush their tongue. It seems a good 10-20% of families don't practice tongue brushing. I say this because 10-20% of the women I've fucked had to be taught (and only one had resistance to learning - she refused and left). They were all surprised to find out this was an expectation. Several of them thanked me and told me they'd practice it for the rest of their lives.

There was a time when I literally refused to kiss women until we'd been intimate for some time. Then I pivoted to just bathing women myself on the first date and making sure they brushed their teeth and tongue before fucking them. This was back when most first dates were at my place, lol. I got some strange looks but when women want cock they will take some direction. Since doing the math I've figured out that about 10-20% of women have seemingly never even heard of brushing their tongues.

I think ppl need to talk to each other more about uncomfortable things. And it might be a good idea to wash a woman you don't know before you fuck her. Ideally with a wash cloth - another thing many women don't know anything about. Many pretty women think bathing is just a formality and their looks are sufficient to get whatever cock they want. And they're right most of the time. It's a rare guy who will tell a pretty woman he has to bathe her himself. But I also think pretty women like to not be put on pedestals and want to be told what to do so they admire the directness of your setting conditions for them to get that cock.

Someone should teach this poor lady about oral hygiene, agreed.
You seem dreamy.
 
I neither suspect nor worry, myself. I just used to make sure she was well aware of my washing and oral hygiene standards and if she was still enamoured she was probably smart enough to take care of everything. That is, I did stop washing EVERY woman I dated a few years back after progressing to just telling them I used to do that and making sure they know hygiene is top of list for me. If someone didn't take the hint well, I'd go back to old habits of washing them.

Which was kind of hot, tbh. A woman making all her parts available for washing until my satisfaction was always something I enjoyed, and something that turned them on as well.

Anyway, I told my gf about this thread (I'm retired from dating, apparently permanently) and, after a brief discussion on "how do you get into this subject on an MMA forum?" she told me to correct anyone who said that washing women and improving their oral hygiene was a bad thing. She always washed well, and even used a wash cloth, and she brushed well but didn't brush her tongue and I could tell on the first kiss.

I believe, after a brief kiss, I asked her if she brushed her tongue, lol. Ah, life..... anyway I introduced her to tongue brushing and tongue scraping and she was infinitely grateful and has gotten tongue scrapers for her two girls as well. She wanted me to report back that whenever I washed her it was romantic and sensual and that she is super thankful I taught her that the tongue is not "self cleaning" in everyone's eyes (including hers now).

To each their own. We all have to find our comfort levels.
 
@mudrubble I suspect and worry about the stink here.

I neither suspect nor worry, myself. I just used to make sure she was well aware of my washing and oral hygiene standards and if she was still enamoured she was probably smart enough to take care of everything. That is, I did stop washing EVERY woman I dated a few years back after progressing to just telling them I used to do that and making sure they know hygiene is top of list for me. If someone didn't take the hint well, I'd go back to old habits of washing them.

Which was kind of hot, tbh. A woman making all her parts available for washing until my satisfaction was always something I enjoyed, and something that turned them on as well.

Anyway, I told my gf about this thread (I'm retired from dating, apparently permanently) and, after a brief discussion on "how do you get into this subject on an MMA forum?" she told me to correct anyone who said that washing women and improving their oral hygiene was a bad thing. She always washed well, and even used a wash cloth, and she brushed well but didn't brush her tongue and I could tell on the first kiss.

I believe, after a brief kiss, I asked her if she brushed her tongue, lol. Ah, life..... anyway I introduced her to tongue brushing and tongue scraping and she was infinitely grateful and has gotten tongue scrapers for her two girls as well. She wanted me to report back that whenever I washed her it was romantic and sensual and that she is super thankful I taught her that the tongue is not "self cleaning" in everyone's eyes (including hers now).

To each their own. We all have to find our comfort levels.
 
I neither suspect nor worry, myself. I just used to make sure she was well aware of my washing and oral hygiene standards and if she was still enamoured she was probably smart enough to take care of everything. That is, I did stop washing EVERY woman I dated a few years back after progressing to just telling them I used to do that and making sure they know hygiene is top of list for me. If someone didn't take the hint well, I'd go back to old habits of washing them.

Which was kind of hot, tbh. A woman making all her parts available for washing until my satisfaction was always something I enjoyed, and something that turned them on as well.

Anyway, I told my gf about this thread (I'm retired from dating, apparently permanently) and, after a brief discussion on "how do you get into this subject on an MMA forum?" she told me to correct anyone who said that washing women and improving their oral hygiene was a bad thing. She always washed well, and even used a wash cloth, and she brushed well but didn't brush her tongue and I could tell on the first kiss.

I believe, after a brief kiss, I asked her if she brushed her tongue, lol. Ah, life..... anyway I introduced her to tongue brushing and tongue scraping and she was infinitely grateful and has gotten tongue scrapers for her two girls as well. She wanted me to report back that whenever I washed her it was romantic and sensual and that she is super thankful I taught her that the tongue is not "self cleaning" in everyone's eyes (including hers now).

To each their own. We all have to find our comfort levels.
Thanks bro.

Facts.

Cleanliness is essential.

Clean dat ass with water and soap after every poop.
 
Hey man Mayhem miller has been in MMA for a long time try to support
 
She wanted me to report back that whenever I washed her it was romantic and sensual and that she is super thankful I taught her


Found a pic of you and your girl!

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(Just joking bro, please dont eyepoke me)
 
Gotta love Mayhem. Never had to put on a staged act like Conor, Colby, Jorge, etc etc. He was a legit nutcase 24/7 never had to go WWE promos like the above mentioned fighters. How many times do you think Conor and Colby stared at themselves in the mirror practicing their lines? Mayhem, Diaz Bros, Brock, just shot off the hip. Ahh the good old days.
 
Found a pic of you and your girl!

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(Just joking bro, please dont eyepoke me)
Jon is an insecure man who needs to be innocent of all wrongdoing and blame others for his faults and set up a fake life for others to see. I'm kind of the opposite - I have zero problem with apologizing and owning my behaviour, I don't compel women to do a damned thing (I invite them to but I certainly wouldn't ever try to "make" a woman do anything when there are lots more women who will naturally act in ways I appreciate) so there is certainly no desperate attempt to present as anything more than the unique thinker and a unique person that I am.

I may not get Sherdog love with my views on cleanliness but I've had a damned good time building friendships and memories and you'd be hard pressed to find a woman from my past to speak ill of me. I can think of 2. For some of you that might be 10% of the women you've been with, but to my it's such a tiny percentage that it's a fantastic average to have. I'm willing to bet I have better averages in this regard than most of my Sherdog detractors, lol, so it is what it is.

I feel sorry for Jon's girl, his kids, and even Jon himself, as he's trapped in a narcissistic prison. But it was a funny enough joke so I threw you a like for the scrap pile.
 
Jon is an insecure man who needs to be innocent of all wrongdoing and blame others for his faults and set up a fake life for others to see. I'm kind of the opposite - I have zero problem with apologizing and owning my behaviour, I don't compel women to do a damned thing (I invite them to but I certainly wouldn't ever try to "make" a woman do anything when there are lots more women who will naturally act in ways I appreciate) so there is certainly no desperate attempt to present as anything more than the unique thinker and a unique person that I am.

I may not get Sherdog love with my views on cleanliness but I've had a damned good time building friendships and memories and you'd be hard pressed to find a woman from my past to speak ill of me. I can think of 2. For some of you that might be 10% of the women you've been with, but to my it's such a tiny percentage that it's a fantastic average to have. I'm willing to bet I have better averages in this regard than most of my Sherdog detractors, lol, so it is what it is.

I feel sorry for Jon's girl, his kids, and even Jon himself, as he's trapped in a narcissistic prison. But it was a funny enough joke so I threw you a like for the scrap pile.
Not to mention, prolly has a poopy ass.
 
Jon is an insecure man who needs to be innocent of all wrongdoing and blame others for his faults and set up a fake life for others to see. I'm kind of the opposite - I have zero problem with apologizing and owning my behaviour, I don't compel women to do a damned thing (I invite them to but I certainly wouldn't ever try to "make" a woman do anything when there are lots more women who will naturally act in ways I appreciate) so there is certainly no desperate attempt to present as anything more than the unique thinker and a unique person that I am.

I may not get Sherdog love with my views on cleanliness but I've had a damned good time building friendships and memories and you'd be hard pressed to find a woman from my past to speak ill of me. I can think of 2. For some of you that might be 10% of the women you've been with, but to my it's such a tiny percentage that it's a fantastic average to have. I'm willing to bet I have better averages in this regard than most of my Sherdog detractors, lol, so it is what it is.

I feel sorry for Jon's girl, his kids, and even Jon himself, as he's trapped in a narcissistic prison. But it was a funny enough joke so I threw you a like for the scrap pile.

Thanks bro.

Facts.

Cleanliness is essential.

Clean dat ass with water and soap after every poop.
 
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