Max Holloway at 155, how far can he go?

1. Oliveiras takedowns and striking have improved so much since he fought Max where he lost by first round injury its crazy. I don't think Max can easily finish Oliveira early nor do I think he can out work him, his best chance is to play punching bag and rely on his chin, do his best to defend takedowns and hope to God Charles tires before he kills him, then pick up the pace at some point in round 3 as Charles may fade and then Max can look for a late TKO. Perhaps attack the body early and often to help facilitate the slowing down of Charles. If Charles can find takedowns U give Max basically no chance. 70/30 Oliveira

2. Poirier, bigger, stronger, hits way harder and is the better boxer both offensively and defensively. Poirier showed us vs Max the first time he has a tank to go 5 rounds too, Max has if anything looked to be slowing down a bit where Poirier hasn't show signs of slowing down. Poirier 70/30

3. Gaethje, similar to the Oliveira fight minus the takedowns and Gaethjes gas tank failing is more reliable. Gaethje is going to break down Max's legs something fierce and when they trade leather...my God does Gaethje hit way damn harder, Poirier had Max stumbling with his power years ago, I think the odds if Gaethje or Oliveira knocking him out now is high. We've never seen someone go to town on Holloways legs either. In a 3 round fight irs really hard to see Max winning because Gaethjes got 2 rounds of good asswhooping in him. 3 rounds Gaethje 70/30, 5 rounds Gaethje 60/40.

4. Islam Makhachev, I don't think Max can keep Islam off him and Islam won't gas. Max lacks the grappling off his back and the strength and size to defend the takedowns. Islam 90/10

5. Michael Chandler, this to me is perhaps the most winnable fight for Max. If it's 3 rounds I'd still favor Chandler, round 1 he will land shots on Max that might finish him and Chandler can probably land takedowns and pot shot effectively in round 2 as he slows well enough to still win it, by round 3 if Max doesn't get knocked out I think he would start to take over. 60/40 Chandler in 3 rounds 60/40 Max in 5.

6. Beneil Dariush, one of the other most winnable fights Dariushs gastank is a little suspect, his takedowns aren't that strong and he is a heavy handed southpaw with a big left hand and left leg but besides that he doesn't have much else standing. I'd favor Max 60/40

7. Rafael Fiziev, you're wrong, Fiziev has pretty damn big stopping power and he's by no means a small LW, the dude is the size if Melvin Guillard. In muay thai Fiziev was known for his big KO power in his hands and he has the cardio to go 3 rounds, the technical superiority, speed, defense and power advantage standing. I don't like this fight for Max, he's going to have to rely on his chin and hope Fiziev gasses something bad. 70/30 in 3 or 5 rounds for Fiziev

8. Gamrot, I think Gamrot can mix things up on the feet and scoring takedowns to secure rounds and outwork Max over 3 or 5 rounds, 70/30 Gamrot

9. Arman I think Arman Is a good enough striker with a speed and power advantage. His gas tank is good, he should be able to score takedowns and even if Max tries to keep Arman at the end if his punches Armans kicking game is too good. Arman 75/25

10. Damir, he's faster than Max, better boxing, defensively amazing, 4in reach advantage, great control of fights range and pace, strong cardio and slept on offensive wrestling Damir 80/20

Conor will never cut to 155lbs again unless it's a Floyd type fight so no one cares but I'd favor Max over Conor nowadays. I think Guram and Jalin would be trouble for Max too, those guys are way bigger, hit harder, fight better long than Max does. I have Max losing to a handful of Bellator LWs. I actually think Max has interesting fights at 145lbs at this point, Yair is nothing special and he struggled in that one and Max got melted by Volk in their 3rd fight, I don't think it's as simple as Volk and Yair improved a ton, I think Max is slowing down some.
Wow, thanks for the breakdowns! Appreciate it!

1. I’m not fully sold on Oliviera. He gives a Tony Ferguson vibe. He’s been nearly finished in all of his big fights and has many holes in his game. If he beats Islam though, I’ll admit that he’s possibly the greatest LW of all time.
2. Fair enough.
3. I can agree that Gaethje could win a 3 round fight, but he loses to Max in a 5 rounder.
4. Agreed
5. Agreed
6. Agreed
7. Fiziev is 5’8 and he isn’t build like a tank either. In 7 UFC fights he’s only scored 3 finishes, so it’s not likely he would KO Max. I thought he lost to to Bobby Green TBH. He gassed bad in a 3 round fight and Bobby drowned him with his boxing towards the end. He looked better against RDA though. Still a very winnable fight for Max.
8. Agreed
9. Agreed
10. Agreed

I don’t think Max has slowed down at all. He looked otherworldly against Kattar, who is a great boxer. Yair is special though and he improved a lot, he’s just entering his prime. Volkanovski is on another level now. He makes everyone he fights look like they should retire
 
As far his chin and reach can take him, which is not that far.

DP wrecked him. If they gave Max favorable match ups maybe fringe top ten. Other than that everyone in the top 5 would wreck him.
 
It's not the right weight for him. His volume won't have the same effect and definitely won't be able to take the heavier punishment so actually he won't be able to string those playstation combos together as he'll be stunned by counters instead of absorbing them into his face.
 
No idea, but I wish we could get some news from him about what he plans to do next.
 
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Holloway is like Aldo. They past thier prime early due to amazing young careers. Like Aldo I think he can also do very well past prime but not sure he will ever win another title. I hope he proves me wrong.
 
I was honestly surprised at how bad he looked vs a guy like Dustin. He looked like he didn't even belong in there, so i' doubting he could be a threat to anyone other than Chandler.
 
not very - he beats none of the top 5 - and is touch and go with the top 10.

Yeah, not everyone is going to be disciplined like Volk and fight sticking to a game plan but the guys at 155 are well rounded and can crack a hell of a lot harder than Volk. At some point his whole take damage and keep coming is going to get him KO'd. You saw what Dustin did to him and the only reason Max was in that fight at all was because Dustin got tired of laying a beating on him.
 
I think he is too weak in 155, he can crack top 10, but it's gonna be hard for him to reach the title. Too many talented guys in 155, who also seem to be stronger than Max.

Can someone explain though why Holloway is very skinny but very heavy? I saw some thread discussing walk around weight of fighters the other day, and Max is heavier than Dustin, he is almost as heavy as Khabib iirc.
Hawaiian dense bones with a welter weight chin
 
Max should leave weight cutting behind and call Jones out at HW
 
Max has got hit a lot. He usually out scraps and wears down opponents with his volume.

Im not sure how his pressure style would work against bigger 155ers. In his only fight up there so far, he was visibly hurt by Poirier's shots
 
At this point, with all the strikes he’s absorbed.. Probably not very far. Even if he bulked up a bit. Moving up in weight is fraught with new challenges, and dangers. And LW is very talent rich. I don’t want to predict an actual ranking. But, I don’t think he could ever be the champ at LW.

He’s made a lot of money. I hope he’s saved or invested wisely. Maybe a few money fights ahead. But go enjoy that Pro Surfer wife, and son. He’s earned it.
 
I think he can do well but he can't make the mistake that Weidman and Rockhold did when they moved up and jumped into the deep end without adjusting first.

If he takes a big step down in competition for a few fights before getting thrown to the wolves I think he can surprise a lot of us.
 
Holloway is like Aldo. They past thier prime early due to amazing young careers. Like Aldo I think he can also do very well past prime but not sure he will ever win another title. I hope he proves me wrong.
Max has until his chin lasts pretty much at this point, can't believe how much punishment he's taken so young :(
 
i think max and tony had a lot of similarities on how they fight, and looking at how tony is right now, i don't think it would be a good idea to move up against even harder hitters than the guys at fw.
 
Smaller 145'ers can succeed at 155 the current champ was a gatekeeper earlier in Max's era. He also lost to an ex 145er when he tried to move. It's possible for him to win the belt don't think he can be dominant though.

Also this era of 155 is close to ending a new generation is coming up. Max should stay at 145 and wait for Volk to leave which is likely. If that happens Max gets to be the champ again with no viable challenger in site. That is his best path forward.
 
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