Max holloway and his overrated boxing

[omawho402]

Guess that would make Francis Ngannou the best boxer in the sport then going by your logic.

He's certainly the most effective, that's what counts

 

[Moeshaak Hammer]

Well his last performance was amazing he beat the shit out of that guy, He is one of the best mma fighter nobody denies that but there are people saying he is the best boxer in mma.

He knows how to move well and looked better than before because he always take a lot of punches and has good cardio but besides that he has a pretty poor technique, not many combinations and no power ** we are talking about boxing**

EDIT: When I said about "Not many combinations" I'm trying to say he always throw the same type of punches

So much hate

 

[Substance Abuse]

THERE IT IS LOL!

A Fighter can never truly have his Moment with people like TS lol. Obviously he's not the Best MMA Boxer, but in the Context of the fight against Kattar, and what the Pundits were saying, when Max knew he was ahead and had already made it clear, he took the time to gloat and show people doubting his Boxing that they didn't know what the FUCK they were talking about.

He said it out of emotion, and it it's something he believes, SO WHAT, you have to be a bit delusional and hype yourself up to accomplish great things. You want him to say he's not the Best Boxer?

Close it. Shut it down! Close thread! Lol

 

[Kono dio da!]

 

[Fraz]

Ban

Conor

 

[Oldman1]

It does not make you a "better" boxer because you have more power. More effective, sure. But "better" MUST imply technique.

It's one attribute as stated in my post. If two boxers are equal at everything but one has more power, the one with more power is the better boxer.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

Max Holloway is on par with Muhammad Ali if not better

 

[Lee_]

Max sucks as a boxer, and if he got in the ring with me, you would all see that.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

Max sucks as a boxer, and if he got in the ring with me, you would all see that.

You would probably win but i think Max would win

 

[Sean Ryan]

The only thing you could really criticize about his boxing (for mma) is his lack of one punch KO power and his defense

Other than that he's an elite MMA boxer

Confidence in his timing, offensively and defensively. Very impressive. People forget there are many boxing styles. Particularly in different continents.

 

[SJP_SevenLaker]

Max is a goat

 

[Jose Beehive]

Hahahaha

 

[mudrubble]

It's one attribute as stated in my post. If two boxers are equal at everything but one has more power, the one with more power is the better boxer.

Sure I guess. And I suppose strength is an attribute of sculpting. Between sculptors, *if all else is equal (and it seldom is)* the stronger guy can chip off more material.

I could say the same thing about painting I guess. But I wouldn't say that because all else is rarely ever equal between 2 human beings. I've seen more powerful ppl prevail over better fighters, but that didn't make them better boxers or kickboxers, etc. Just more powerful and possibly more effective. Over possibly more skilled, "better" opponents.

 

[sampuncher]

Well his last performance was amazing he beat the shit out of that guy, He is one of the best mma fighter nobody denies that but there are people saying he is the best boxer in mma.

He knows how to move well and looked better than before because he always take a lot of punches and has good cardio but besides that he has a pretty poor technique, not many combinations and no power ** we are talking about boxing**

EDIT: When I said about "Not many combinations" I'm trying to say he always throw the same type of punches

"we are talking about boxing".

Proceeeds to make a thread about one of the best boxers in MMA having overrated boxing.

Maybe YOU shouldn't talk about boxing.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Well his last performance was amazing he beat the shit out of that guy, He is one of the best mma fighter nobody denies that but there are people saying he is the best boxer in mma.

He knows how to move well and looked better than before because he always take a lot of punches and has good cardio but besides that he has a pretty poor technique, not many combinations and no power ** we are talking about boxing**

EDIT: When I said about "Not many combinations" I'm trying to say he always throw the same type of punches

Ok so whos the best? If not holloway

This ought to be good

 

[MigitAs]

Well his last performance was amazing he beat the shit out of that guy, He is one of the best mma fighter nobody denies that but there are people saying he is the best boxer in mma.

He knows how to move well and looked better than before because he always take a lot of punches and has good cardio but besides that he has a pretty poor technique, not many combinations and no power ** we are talking about boxing**

EDIT: When I said about "Not many combinations" I'm trying to say he always throw the same type of punches

Power is defined at birth, Max is a high-volume striker, and has always mixed up his strikes well. He has a boxing-style base lately, but he is still an mma striker. Max has the best boxing for sure at featherweight, his ability to land, and ability to throw a high volume are his strong points. He has good boxing defense for an mma striker as well. Yes, Max gets hit, but he’s still getting better, we’re seeing evidence of this in his performances. Max is no Mayweather sure, but you’re being too vague with your criticism here imo. His boxing is elite for a UFC fighter.

 

[Dirge]

Dustin out boxed him recently

Dustin didn't out box him. He out "punched" him. Dustin has had time to fill out at 155 and he's a pretty damn big 155 pounder now. Max took that fight on what a couple of weeks notice? (Tony was supposed to step in but he declined). Max had no time to add mass properly.

Dustin simply hit a lot harder and Max still gave him a hell of a fight. There is a reason why there are weight classes.

 

[Oldman1]

Sure I guess. And I suppose strength is an attribute of sculpting. Between sculptors, *if all else is equal (and it seldom is)* the stronger guy can chip off more material.

I could say the same thing about painting I guess. But I wouldn't say that because all else is rarely ever equal between 2 human beings. I've seen more powerful ppl prevail over better fighters, but that didn't make them better boxers or kickboxers, etc. Just more powerful and possibly more effective. Over possibly more skilled, "better" opponents.

This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read

 

[Oldman1]

Dustin didn't out box him. He out "punched" him. Dustin has had time to fill out at 155 and he's a pretty damn big 155 pounder now. Max took that fight on what a couple of weeks notice? (Tony was supposed to step in but he declined). Max had no time to add mass properly.

Dustin simply hit a lot harder and Max still gave him a hell of a fight. There is a reason why there are weight classes.

Boxing is either punching or evading punching. If he out punched him, then he out boxed him. It's the whole purpose of boxing.

They have both fought at 145 and 155 so weight class isn't an issue.

DP was the better boxer when they fought. Fact.

 

[IamStryker]

Ridiculous stuff mate, delete this thread.