Opinion MAGA and lefties should work together to defeat Vance (kinda long read)

All i know is we need a Democrat in office soon enough of Trump and shitty Republicans we need a change I say this as someone In the middle.
 
They won't allow Thomas Massie to run for president because he doesn't have a AIPAC handler.
 
IDGETKTFO said:
I mean, Either way it seems like a win win, Trump still wanted him as VP, and if what you say is true, Democrats should want him over Trump. You just ain't making sense. Your TDS is flaring up.
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It is my understanding that Elon Musk was the one who convinced Trump to pick JD Vance.
 
What about safe choices for Democrats like Andy Beshear or Mark Kelly? Pete Buttigieg? Josh Shapiro?

If I had to guess Newsome is the front runner. I hate him but he has convinced me thus far to vote for him with his online trolling of Trump. That shit is hilarious.

Vance is an articulate guy but he doesn't come off authentic or charismatic. He'll get bulldozed by one of the other candidates in the primaries.
 
DEVILsSON said:
What about safe choices for Democrats like Andy Beshear or Mark Kelly? Pete Buttigieg? Josh Shapiro?

If I had to guess Newsome is the front runner. I hate him but he has convinced me thus far to vote for him with his online trolling of Trump. That shit is hilarious.

Vance is an articulate guy but he doesn't come off authentic or charismatic. He'll get bulldozed by one of the other candidates in the primaries.
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Vance might be the front runner depends on how it goes , I like him ok I guess, but I think RDS would be a better leader. I thought he would have beat trump in the primaries because of Covid and the 2020 election crap. His policies and actions are great but he can’t articulate that well and came off weak vs Trump
 
ShadowRun said:
Vance might be the front runner depends on how it goes , I like him ok I guess, but I think RDS would be a better leader. I thought he would have beat trump in the primaries because of Covid and the 2020 election crap. His policies and actions are great but he can’t articulate that well and came off weak vs Trump
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I don't think it was that. Desantis is a perfectly fine politician, but he was up against Trump. He wasn't getting the nom no matter what. His "messaging" didn't matter. It was long already detrermined by the base that Trump would be the nominee. That primary was purely ceremonial. It had no bearing on anything. Trump was up by an insurmountable lead, and the voters were locked in. There was never gonna be some big shift to another candidate, no matter what they said on the campaign trail.
 
What a waste of time.

You open with the trite progressive far-left nonsense about the two parties distracting the masses with culture wars issues over stuff like "ladyboys" to prevent meaningful changes to economic policies that help the proletariat. Excuse me, the everyman. You then immediately make 2/3 points whining about Israel.

We didn't go to war with Iran with some mass boots-on-the-ground invasion. We don't place the interests of Israel above our own, it's simply that their interests align with ours, while the country's that leadership itself chants "Death to America," surprise surprise, does not. Furthermore, this is precisely the sort of non-economic issue like marijuana or abortion that steers the votes of fanatical one-issue posters like you so clearly are over economic concerns.

You're transparent. You don't care about the USA, you care about Palestine. Fuck off.
 
His supporters will fall him:" the massive messiah" and the other :" nessie"
 
Simple Southerner said:
All i know is we need a Democrat in office soon enough of Trump and shitty Republicans we need a change I say this as someone In the middle.
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Before Trump's second term, Democrats were in the White House for 12 of the previous 16 years. The American people decided what change they wanted.
 
Madmick said:
We didn't go to war with Iran with some mass boots-on-the-ground invasion. We don't place the interests of Israel above our own, it's simply they their interests align with ours, while the country's that leadership itself chants "Death to America," surprise surprise, does not. Furthermore, this is precisely the sort of non-economic issue like marijuana or abortion that steers the votes of fanatical one-issue posters like you so clearly are over economic concerns.

You're transparent. You don't care about the USA, you care about Palestine. Fuck off.
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I give Trump full credit for not being a neocon, and if Vance turns out to have the same foreign policy playbook as Trump I will admit I was wrong.
 
Not going to read the op and probably not on board with the ideas of perpetually wrong groups but Vance is not the answer, he is the next play by the "globalists" or the "cabal" or whatever it may be... He will most likey be the next president and it might be a bad thing.
 
Yr getting Dark Enlightenment or Game~B no matter the choice. Vote local and work on yr community. Politics at the national level is just circus bread.
 
SuperLuigi said:
Perhaps this is more digestible:



@IDGETKTFO
@Madmick
You guys might find this interesting too. Vance is tangled in a web of connections that include Les Wexner, the Clintons, Bezos, and Palantir.
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you're tagging MM after that bizarre kneejerk mischaracterisation of your OP ('you only care about Palestine, fuck off'). you have far more forbearance than I have.
 
IanEdwards said:
you're tagging MM after that bizarre kneejerk mischaracterisation of your OP ('you only care about Palestine, fuck off'). you have far more forbearance than I have.
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The thing is, I was raised in the 20th century mindset so I probably would have had a similar take before I started thinking about these things differently. Ironically enough it makes me more optimistic than I can show them my perspective.
 
IanEdwards said:
you're tagging MM after that bizarre kneejerk mischaracterisation of your OP ('you only care about Palestine, fuck off'). you have far more forbearance than I have.
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Yeah, grown men talking like little kids in a school yard has gotten really stale. Pretty sad it's so common.
 
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