Social MAGA 2025 Civil war incoming! Vivek Ramaswamy Betrays Base & reveals true colors, Says Americans SUCK !!

[Islam Imamate]

Yes, you want the government to subsidize big business "saving money", we've already addressed this

Are you against cash transfers like Social Security and the expanded child tax credit?

 

[deviake]

Are you against cash transfers like Social Security and the expanded child tax credit?

Not the same and you know it, you're not throwing me off with bullshit

 

[Islam Imamate]

Not the same and you know it, you're not throwing me off with bullshit

How is it not the same?

 

[deviake]

How is it not the same?

Social safety nets don't exist to subsidize greed. I've already explained this, you're playing dumb or you are dumb. I'm done being nice about this.

Ford did things the way they did at the start so people could afford their shit

 

[deviake]

Let me guess what talking point is next: "so you're against social programs?"

Also, even if there was an American brain drain maybe making college not cost a ahitzillion dollars would help.

 

[KeepingItReal]

Didn't say that, also that's a good way to destroy a country.

Guess what happens when no one has money to spend stupid, why do you think Henry Ford paid his workers better than everyone else.

Remember the culmination of the Gilded Age, where we got the term "robber baron"? Great depression.

Goddamn some of ypu are short sighted and indoctrinated

@Islam Imamate

Damn brother, where do you come up with this shit? More than 96 percent of the wealth is owned by people who are NOT billionaires, how the hell do they own that much wealth when they have no money to spend?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Social safety nets don't exist to subsidize greed. I've already explained this, you're playing dumb or you are dumb. I'm done being nice about this.

Ford did things the way they did at the start so people could afford their shit

The argument that cash transfers subsidize corporations could easily apply to SS though. Walmart is known for hiring seniors on SS for example. From your POV SS is subsidizing Walmart.

 

[deviake]

The argument that cash transfers subsidize corporations could easily apply to SS though. Walmart is known for hiring seniors on SS for example. From your POV SS is subsidizing Walmart.

NO. it is the business practices, NOT the programs themselves

 

[deviake]

Damn brother, where do you come up with this shit? More than 96 percent of the wealth is owned by people who are NOT billionaires, how the hell do they own that much wealth when they have no money to spend?

3 people own more wealth than the bottom half of Americans

 

[Rob Battisti]

What I see ITT is people having problems with illegal hiring practices and confusing that with problems for a valuable visa program

 

[Islam Imamate]

NO. it is the business practices, NOT the programs themselves

What do you mean?

 

[deviake]

Imagine simping/nuance trolling foe billionaires when onee just spent a smooth 1/4 billion buying a presidential candidate

 

[deviake]

What do you mean?

Self explanatory, I didn't write that shitin hebrew

 

[Daverisimo]

"Jews will not replace us. Indians will, and we'll vote for it".

The only solace I have in Trump becoming president again is that his average voter will suffer worse from his policies than I will. I know it's petty, but I can't help it.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Self explanatory, I didn't write that shitin hebrew

So what's your issue again with my policy suggestion of raising the cap on HB1 visas while investing in social programs like stronger unemployment benefits and the expanded child tax credit to offset any labor disruptions?

 

[Islam Imamate]

"Jews will not replace us. Indians will, and we'll vote for it".

The only solace I have in Trump becoming president again is that his average voter will suffer worse from his policies than I will. I know it's petty, but I can't help it.

I often joke that people who are worried about Jews running the world need to be more worried about Indians. Tech>Finance in terms of market cap and influence on society and Indians are radically overrepresented in tech.

Of course neither Indians nor Jews being overrepresented in high paying, influential fields is a bad thing, its the reality of a successful cosmopolitan society.

 

[Andy Capp]

It's kind of wild to see him openly threatening to use his financial resources to attack dissent among the electorate. Can this be confirmed to be real?

 

[deviake]

So what's your issue again with my policy suggestion of raising the cap on HB1 visas while investing in social programs like stronger unemployment benefits and the expanded child tax credit to offset any labor disruptions?

Labor disruptions = people being fired for cheaper labor = corporate greed.

Just like "inputs" = human beings

Expand social programs while cracking down on greed

 

[Daverisimo]

I often joke that people who are worried about Jews running the world need to be more worried about Indians. Tech>Finance in terms of market cap and influence on society and Indians are radically overrepresented in tech.

Of course neither Indians nor Jews being overrepresented in high paying, influential fields is a bad thing, its the reality of a successful cosmopolitan society.

Yeah, to be clear, I have no problem with Indians or anyone else coming to the US and working. What I have a problem with is employers exploiting immigrants for cheap labor and depressing wages for everyone else. The fault here lies with capital, not labor.

 

[KeepingItReal]

3 people own more wealth than the bottom half of Americans

That's because the bottom half is screwed by people who are in debt. Probably the bottom 10% or 20% of people are dragging the other 30% of that distribution down with college, car and house debt. We wouldn't say they are living badly though would we? If someone gets into college debt but has more lifetime earnings than someone who didn't, we wouldn't say they are worse off. Once people hit their 40s and 50s they are probably in that upper 50%, if they did things right, such as pay off debts, pay of most of the house, invest in the stock market.