Lyoto Machida was pretty elite till he went to MW

[UL]

he should have never lost to phil davis
that was a big win but he got robbed

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

Anything else?

 

[ThatGuy7698]

"Lyoto Machida was pretty elite till USADA happened"

I fixed your title TS.

 

[Deleted member 478803]

He was elite at Middleweight as well.

Dumb thread.

 

[calisoul]

He got caught drinking dirty piss.

 

[TheRassler]

Naw, I'm glad the machida puzzle got solved. Tired of seeing him run around the cage like a chicken with its head chopped off.

 

[markys00]

Wow UL said something without trolling?

And something I agree with (to some degree)

 

[RyuHayabusa]

Elite until shogun punched his face twice

 

[Prince Nephilim]

USADA

How does it work?

 

[wearetheromans]

The dude is like 45

 

[UL]

He was elite at Middleweight as well.

Dumb thread.

yes

Mark Munoz and CB Dolloway are very elite fighters

 

[BigMuffler]

Speed kills, fighting in your "proper" weight class is overrated? For some fighters anyway.

Stand Short (or just light) and Proud!

 

[Mike]

"Lyoto Machida was pretty elite till USADA happened"

I fixed your title TS.

Yeah whether a fighter was a rookie or a decade into his career, every single fighter's decline was usada and not age or wear.

 

[Egészségére!]

 

[drbolony]

The man is my favorite fighter. He got me into MMA, the first fight I ever watched was when he decapitated Thiago Silva.

That being said I think Lyoto at some point stopped evolving, and after he was figured out, the game passed him by.

This seems to happen to strikers quite a bit, think Cro Cop, Anthony Pettis, Anderson Silva, and Carlos Condit.

Strikers rely more on youth for the reflexes, power, and speed advantages, while grapplers can continue to have success past their prime due to their ability to take the fight wherever they need it(in MMA). This isnt a rule across combat sports. A wiser, craftier veteran boxer can still take out the young elite in a purely striking art (see Bernard Hopkins), but in mma the older strikers cant cant rely on there vetwran tools to win fights (see Anderson Silva). Just think about how many more Wrestlers fight later in there 40's as oppose to strikers.

 

[toronto1994]

Whatever gear he was on fo the Gegard fight was the best Lyoto we have ever seen

 

[Franklin U.]

he should have never lost to phil davis
that was a big win but he got robbed

Ironically, wasnt that fight in Brazil?
I believe 185 WAS THE CLASS for Lyoto, just started too late at class and paid dearly for it...
I'm, surprisingly, stoked for this upcom8ng fight with vitor. Winner has a decision to make " do I continue at 185 and pretty much exchange wins with losses" or maybe walk away with belfort [ W] as my final scrap

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

He got away with being a chubby 205er in the old era... the top LHWs now are GIANT compared to Lyoto. Lyoto is small for 185 lol.

 

[Workaholic]

yes

Mark Munoz and CB Dolloway are very elite fighters

Munoz was at the time and he also absolutely schooled Gegard and was competitive with Weidman

 

[NorrisB]

He was elite at Middleweight as well.

Dumb thread.

Went the distance with Weidman, had the momentum at the end even if I remember correctly.