Looks like Ruiz is heading to Cardiff.

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  1. Jonny Ninja

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    This is laughable. Far more controversy’s and ‘robberies’ happen in the states than anywhere else, fact! Canelo ggg 1 and fury wilder being some recent ones. Name some dodgy decisions in Britain recently, and I’ll name a whole lot more controversial fights held in the US to counter it. I don't expect a response from you on this!

    Home advantage is about familiarity and having the crowd behind you. It’s no surprise that both guys want it

    And why would Ruiz not fight a rematch even if it is over here? He’s already stopped Joshua once and he’ll earn far more Money against AJ than anyone else. He’ll clearly take the fight as he has confidence in his own abilities and isn’t full of shit like some of the other top heavies
     
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    If I were Ruiz I would be gravely concerned with special PED testing procedures for Joshy.
     
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    treelo //Do something here

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    What is this supposed to mean exactly?

    You do realise that there was an agreement in place between Bowe-Holyfield-Lewis-Ruddock, that the winners of the 2 fights between the pair would fight each other, and those winners were Bowe and Lewis.

    It was Bowe who decided he no longer wanted to fight Lewis, and gave up his belt as Lewis was the number one contendor.....i dont think you know what your talking about
     
  4. Kevster

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    Following that logic Joshua should never have had to fight in the USA like never ever.
     
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    Think ?

    You mean there’s doubt.
     
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    It was my polite way of calling him a fucking retard
     
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    "neutral ground" LOL

    Imagine the shock if Ruiz knocks him on his ass again though, in his own country. It could definitely happen and it would plummet AJ's stock so badly ...

    I think the kid shows some balls by going for the immediate rematch. Either they know or saw something and they'll look like geniuses, or Hearn goes down in history as 'the guy who burried Joshua's career'.

    I'm excited about this fight!
     
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    I’d imagine this is Joshua’s call, not hearns?

    The problem is he still wants to be undisputed champion. He’s the only guy in the division that has ever been serious about it. If Ruiz fights someone else he could lose or at least be stripped of a belt or 2. If Joshua still dreams of being undisputed, he has to rematch him immediately. Otherwise it will probably never happen
     
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    I honestly don't know, but I guess you might be right. If Hearn had his way he might be inclined to give AJ a tune up fight first ...

    It's so risky, especially since Ruiz beat him so thoroughly, it wasn't some fluke. Like I said, if something was just off with AJ that night or they saw something to their advantage and he beats Ruiz in that rematch (which he might), they'll look like geniuses. But if he doesn't? Oof..
     
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    Very few pros over here have said he should get straight back at it. I think it’s a fcking huge risk, but I understand why heavy doing it. Fair play to the man. He has shown that he is the only guy willing to fight the best fighters to reach his goal

    Whether he still had effects of the concussion are immaterial. He lost. Imo he badly fcked up when he hurt Ruiz and paid for it. Hopefully he’s learned from this mistake. Would he have won if he fought more conservatively? Who knows. His gas tank is horrible so there’s always a chance that he gassed and gets hurt late.

    In think the rematch will be boring if Joshua wins. It will be ultra cautious. Definitely looking forward to it though
     
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    I think the robberies usually go to the money fighter. Joshua was up on one judges card before the stoppage. The other 2 had Ruiz up by one point.
    Ruiz biggest reason for not wanting to fight in the UK is that he could possibly be fighting a doped up Joshua as happened with Whyte/Rivas. I'm not accusing Joshua but would you fight there with what just happened?
     
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    it was actually ukad that busted Whyte. He passed vada’s testing. So That is not a reason not to fight in Britain. The only issue he should have is as the champion he should call the shots. And he wants to fight in front of his fans. I think that is the issue. We don’t know what is in the rematch clause though?
     
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    Whether someone is cleared to fight even though they popped for PEDs in the UK and whether they should be able to are 2 different things. Rivas life and career were on the line.

    Agree the champ should call the shots but I suspect the rematch obligates him to agree to Joshua's desired location. I don't think it matters from a judging pov. They'll still favor AJ. The powers that be want that money train going again.
     
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    I dunno, man. Allowing Hearn to have a hand in picking the ref is foolish. By beating Joshua, he earned the right to not have to deal with that horseshit
     
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    What haha
     
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    That’s because UKAD is a legitimate government testing agency. VADA is a joke and is completely funded by donations, wonder who the donors are????

    Wouldn’t trust VADA one bit.
     
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    I think it's just the Saudis throwing silly money around.

    If it's going to be fucking with anyone, it will be AJ. In the below article he talks about how having 90,000 of his fans gives him the lift he needs. In S Arabia, with no beer, there is no atmosphere so won't help him.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/49255262

    He also talks about, "getting his passion for boxing back". He could still be playing down the sparring KO rumours, but that's negative talk.
     
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    Ruiz wanted neutral ground, so looks like he's getting it.
     

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