Long Time Boxer SayF,owner of Ummah Fight Camp breaks down why Conor CAN BEAT Floyd. 60/40 for Conor

You did not listed shit on the OP.

You are an idiot.

You are comparing Conor to elite world class boxers by using them as examples of how Mayweather could be beat by Conor.

Conor is not world class, he is not elite. If boxing had a ranking belt system like Karate or Taekwondo, these guys would be black belts. Mayweather would be a high degree black belt. Conor would be a blue belt or maybe a beginner purple belt.

Also, the sport of boxing is set up to where boxers fight each other as they climb up the rankings, yet this is the stage were boxers with the weakest chin or defense gets weeded out. Case in point Mike Perry, he got knocked out in his first ever Pro Boxing debut. Mark Hunt lost his first Pro Boxing debut. Anderson Silva got TKJOed in his Pro Boxing debut. They went on to pursue their career in fighting in other sports.

This is the reason why many of the top ranked boxers all have solid chins and many have excellent fluent boxing defense.

Conor has not gone through this progress in testing his chin and defense against other boxers of similar experience. Many of these top ranked boxers have deep extensive amateur background. Conor's background is not deep nor extensive. He was the All-Ireland boxing champion at youth level. He was not an Olympian participant or had over 300 amateur boxing fights.

His lack of deep amateur experience shows with his boxing eras. He relies too much on the left. He has poor defense which was the case when he fought Nate Diaz. His offense would be easy to be read by Mayweather to the point that they would be defended and countered.

Also, Diego Corrales had a longer reach than Mayweather at 73 inches. Mayweather still picked him apart and TKOed him. Yet Corrales was a way better boxer than Conor.

Dela Hoya also had a reach longer than Floyds but yet he was still more experienced and way more world class tha Cnor would ever be. Dela Hoya had great ring IQ and Mayweather managed to beat him.

Then you go on and give yourself away as a troll by asking "how is Mayweather going to "react to somebody with the foot speed and ring cutting of Conor".

Mayweather will react the same way he did with all other boxers he beat. You do know that Mayweather is pretty elusive on the feet right?

This itself stood out to be so idiotic and insane that I had to separately quote you on this.

You are a sheep minded idiot who only regurgitates what you hear in the "Lets hate on Mayweather" church services.

Canelo Alvarez is in his prime and Mayweather made him loook like a fool.

Cotto was in his prime when Mayweather beat him. Cotto had came of beating the same man who almost ruin his career by cheating and Mayweather beat him.

Mayweather schooled Baldomir who was in his prime and had came off defeating Zab Judah.

Mayweather beat prime Maidana who destroyed Adrain Broner.

Mayweather schooled the great Juan Manuel Marquez, who was the most difficult opponent in all of Pacquiao's career and who knocked Pac Man out.

Mayweather TKOed a PRIME and undefeated Ricky Hatton.

Mayweather beat Manny Pacquiao finally after 5 years of back and fourth bullshit, but Pacquiao has still be shown to be very relevant in the game even defeating Timothy Bradley twice.

THE ONLY fighters Mayweather neevr got to fight were Margaritto and Paul Williams.

Williams had a longer reach but he was more an inside fighter. Margaritto was a cheater and he got beat by Cott and destroyed by Pacquaio.

You sir are an idiot. Good night.

Chin is really just as much an issue in MMA, perhaps moreso(as the MMA fighters who'd tried boxing are all strikers) as the potential to be caught blind or off balance is much greater. The biggest difference for me is that the larger gloves, more limited range of techniques your facing and the specialisation in skill make a boxers defence much harder to unlock.

Mark Hunt is I think a classic example of the difference, granted I'v not seen his boxing matches and he likely did improve after that point but I think its easy to see opponents just keeping a high guard and blocking his brawling style for the most part. A move to K-1 though and kicks/knees lead to more open defences and he can grow into a world level talent. Then in Pride you see his match against Nishijima, granted he was a cruiserweight but still he was a former champion who would most likely tool the boxers Hunt fought earlier in his career. That fight is the ultimate example of how big a difference the smaller gloves and extra attacks make, Nishijima trying to defend on the ropes gets the beating of a lifetime due to his more open defence and Hunts knees.

Granted I think Floyd has the foot and head movement plus the timing that I could see him doing very well in a boxing match with MMA gloves but in an actual boxing match he might not even need to use much of that, Connors offence was be very easily blocked with a simple high guard.
 
Chin is really just as much an issue in MMA, perhaps moreso(as the MMA fighters who'd tried boxing are all strikers) as the potential to be caught blind or off balance is much greater. The biggest difference for me is that the larger gloves, more limited range of techniques your facing and the specialisation in skill make a boxers defence much harder to unlock.

Mark Hunt is I think a classic example of the difference, granted I'v not seen his boxing matches and he likely did improve after that point but I think its easy to see opponents just keeping a high guard and blocking his brawling style for the most part. A move to K-1 though and kicks/knees lead to more open defences and he can grow into a world level talent. Then in Pride you see his match against Nishijima, granted he was a cruiserweight but still he was a former champion who would most likely tool the boxers Hunt fought earlier in his career. That fight is the ultimate example of how big a difference the smaller gloves and extra attacks make, Nishijima trying to defend on the ropes gets the beating of a lifetime due to his more open defence and Hunts knees.

Granted I think Floyd has the foot and head movement plus the timing that I could see him doing very well in a boxing match with MMA gloves but in an actual boxing match he might not even need to use much of that, Connors offence was be very easily blocked with a simple high guard.


But MMA still has grappling. Brock Lesnar got away with it for as long as he did because of his wrestling as well as many wrestlers did until they fought someone with good takedown defense and solid boxing.

In Boxing you can only punch and therefore you cannot get away with not having your chin tested unless you have incredible defense or reflexes like Roy Jones Jr did.
 
Conor was a national amature champion in Ireland. Ireland has a deep amature is post



I am not going to rebuttal your long bible of bullshit.

Are you kidding me?

You have shitted on the entire sport of boxing all because of your sexual attraction towards Conor.

Nobody has ever or will never come into the sport of boxing while only having a short amateur background or no background at all and without having any professional boxing experience to not only beat an elite boxer but also the best elite boxer of that time.

Nobody.

Even Leon Spinks who beat an over the hill Muhammad Ali in his 8th pro boxing fight had a huge amateur boxing background with Olympic Gold win and yet he managed to get exposed by Ali in the rematch.

Vasyl Lomanchenko who also had a rich amateur background along with multiple Olympic gold medal wins lost to top ten ranked boxer Orlando Solido in his second pro boxing fight.

At the end of the day Pro boxing is still a sport that requires great experience and requires one going through the ranking system to prove that you are on the elite level.

Conor has not done this.

You have never been to a Boxing gym to know and appreciate the complexity of what the sweet science is.

So go get Conor's imaginary dick out of your mouth and go train in an actual boxing gym so you can finally understand how stupid you are looking with this retarded thread.
 
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Two unbelievable Sherdog idiocies rolled into one thread, great job.

1. Conor beats Floyd in boxing
2. Reach determines a winner

A guy I know at work has long arms. I think he outboxes Floyd at least 99/100 times. To say nothing if that guy used a MODIFIED KARATE STANCE (in a boxing ring lol). Then his chances jump up to 999/1000. Literally no boxer ever thought of doing that, not because it makes no fucking sense, but rather because it is so brilliant that no one ever thought of it.
 
I am not going to rebuttal your long bible of bullshit.

Are you kidding me?

You have shitted on the entire sport of boxing all because of your sexual attraction towards Conor.

Nobody has ever or will never come into the sport of boxing while only having a short amateur background or no background at all and without having any professional boxing experience and just beat an not just an elite boxer but also the best elite boxer of that time.

Nobody.

Even Leon Spinks who beat a over the hill Muhammad Ali in his 8th pro boxing fight had a huge amateur boxing background with Olympic Gold win and yet he managed to get exposed by Ali in the rematch.

Vasyl Lomanchenko who also had a rich amateur background along with multiple Olympic gold medal wins lost to top ten ranked boxer Orlando Solido in his second pro boxing fight.

At the end of the day Pro boxing is still a sport that requires great experience and requires one going through the ranking system to prove that you are on the elite level.

Conor has not done this.

You have never been to a Boxing gym to know and appreciate the complexity of what the sweet science is.

So go get Conor's imaginary dick out of your mouth and go train in an actual boxing gym so you can finally understand how stupid it is that you are sounding with this retarded thread.

Well said.
 
You don't seem dumb but you shat that title out... I deducted what you tired to mean by it at least.
 
Stop reaching (see what I did there?), this fight will not happen

Also FM would have beaten Khan easily lol
 
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