International London’s largest Christmas Market renamed ‘Winter come Together’ with traders banned from saying ‘Christmas’

[Hellowhosthat]

so what? this isn't my information source.

Well so long as it isn't twitter either.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Well so long as it isn't twitter either.

twitter a lot of times has a lot better reporting than mainstream media. that's not even controversial. you think anyone's going to the bbc when wanting to find out what's going on? why would they? to get a curated, manicured and censored version of what's happening? mainstream media is trash.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

twitter a lot of times has a lot better reporting than mainstream media. that's not even controversial. you think anyone's going to the bbc when wanting to find out what's going on? why would they? to get a curated, manicured and censored version of what's happening? mainstream media is trash.

If you think you're getting better news from twitter than the BBC you're having a laugh Sherbro.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

If you think you're getting better news from twitter than the BBC you're having a laugh Sherbro.

nope. hell, 4chan has better news than the bbc.
because you simply can't get away with shit on twitter because of community notes. mainstream media has nothing like that.
people that listen and unquestionably believe mainstream media are basically involved in a religious act.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

nope. hell, 4chan has better news than the bbc.
because you simply can't get away with shit on twitter because of community notes. mainstream media has nothing like that.
people that listen and unquestionably believe mainstream media are basically involved in a religious act.

BBC is different from American mainstream media. They actively go after everyone. There's very few times I've seen them be actively called out for inaccurate reporting. You will get quicker news on twitter and 4chan because BBC has higher expectations of verifying information though.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

BBC is different from American mainstream media. They actively go after everyone. There's very few times I've seen them be actively called out for inaccurate reporting. You will get quicker news on twitter and 4chan because BBC has higher expectations of verifying information though.

you understand though this wasn't a discussion SPECIFICALLY about the BBC, right? its about mainstream media. i could have said cnn. come on, man.

 

[Croo67]

What you mainly get on twitter is bits of video taken very out of context and presented to mean something different.

The most viral videos on Twitter these days seem to be third world cavemen acting like third world cavemen across Europe.

I don’t see how someone pulling their trousers down and taking a dump in the middle of Paris can be taken out of context, nor one of some lunatic running about with machetes.

Pre-Musk these videos would’ve lasted about 30 minutes before being killed by the algorithm, and anyone citing them would’ve been called a liar and told if it were true the video would be everywhere.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

The most viral videos on Twitter these days seem to be third world cavemen acting like third world cavemen across Europe.

I don’t see how someone pulling their trousers down and taking a dump in the middle of Paris can be taken out of context, nor one of some lunatic running about with machetes.

Pre-Musk these videos would’ve lasted about 30 minutes before being killed by the algorithm, and anyone citing them would’ve been called a liar and told if it were true the video would be everywhere.

This.
The curated window that was twitter was basically an instrument for mass censorship. i don't like musk at all, never have, doesn't fool me and i know pretty well what he is, but his taking over twitter allowed for a lot of people to see things they simply would otherwise not be allowed to. you can't put that genie back in the bottle now, and return twitter to a "trannies aren't really in schools grooming kids, you're just a transphobe" or "immigrants are great and aren't breaking the law, you're just racist" type of gaslighting.

that shit is OVER.

 

[Croo67]

The curated window that was twitter was basically an instrument for mass censorship. i don't like musk at all, never have, doesn't fool me and i know pretty well what he is, but his taking over twitter allowed for a lot of people to see things they simply would otherwise not be allowed to. you can't put that genie back in the bottle now, and return twitter to a "trannies aren't really in schools grooming kids, you're just a transphobe" or "immigrants are great and aren't breaking the law, you're just racist" type of gaslighting.

that shit is OVER.

It’s also caused a seismic change in people trusting governments.

Southport is a good example of that. Many of my friends were quite spooked at how blatantly the government lied about that.

Again, in pre-Musk days the talk of it not being an angelic Christian choir boy who had a wobble would’ve been restricted to WhatsApp groups and have you labelled as a tinfoil head if mentioned in public.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

you understand though this wasn't a discussion SPECIFICALLY about the BBC, right? its about mainstream media. i could have said cnn. come on, man.

Well American news is very different because it's partisan

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Well American news is very different because it's partisan

If you're saying the BBC isn't partisan, that's like saying a prayer, same vibe.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

If you're saying the BBC isn't partisan, that's like saying a prayer, same vibe.

Well the BBC isn't partisan and has always gone after all UK political parties equally. CNN and Fox actively take the side of one party

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Well the BBC isn't partisan

Point me some posters around here that believe that.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Point me some posters around here that believe that.

Give me some evidence that they are partisan. Every prime minister we've ever had has been given a torrent of criticism by the BBC, no matter which party they represent.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Give me some evidence that they are partisan. Every prime minister we've ever had has been given a torrent of criticism by the BBC, no matter which party they represent.

I don't have to give evidence for anything. you think this is a scientific discussion?

Still waiting for you to point out some posters around here that would agree the bbc ain't partisan.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I don't have to give evidence for anything. you think this is a scientific discussion?

Still waiting for you to point out some posters around here that would agree the bbc ain't partisan.

"but Sherbros say..." isn't an argument really though is it?

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

London sucks

London is the capital of Asia.

 

[FIMN]

I don't have to give evidence for anything. you think this is a scientific discussion?

Still waiting for you to point out some posters around here that would agree the bbc ain't partisan.

BBC is pretty much middle of the road. If that counts as being partisan you've got a pretty broad definition.

 

[FIMN]

Also the obsession with importing culture war dogshit to the UK from America and saying there's a war on Christmas is pretty tiring. Christmas is banned !1!!

Bunch of lemmings.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

"but Sherbros say..." isn't an argument really though is it?

why not? mainstream media is a trust institution.
if people don't trust it, what's the point?
so it's precisely a "but sherbros say" argument.