LOL @ the Robbie Lawler hype

[PD4838]

Babalu and Tim Kennedy are tough mofo's. You are a Shertard TS

 

[Deleted member 110072]

He's 1-1 with Hendricks and his win was a split decision. I don't know why people are carrying him off the field - good for him and all but acting like he's the dominant guy at 170lbs is just flat out absurd. I think Lombard, Diaz, Condit and probably even Woodly are a bad matchup for him.

A knock down against Rory saved him from losing and earned him a split decision - by the way he ended that round on bottom getting elbowed.

You do know, GSP/Rory fanboys who hate Hendricks and want him away from the title now they have the result they want. The real giveaway is just how little congratulations Lawler has actually gotten for winning the belt, pretty clear most people posting are happy not with him winning but with Hendricks losing.

 

[mmaelitefan000]

he's no hype but i'd like to see lawler vs diaz 2 in 2015

 

[Terminal]

To me, the WW division is severely lacking atm.

The likes of Lawler/Hendricks are mid-tier fighters who can all take fights off of each other at any time, no one truly stands out.

 

[DrFapper]

LoL to you

 

[fzoid4454]

Right - Robbie the 'split decision champion' Lawler. Who also went to a split decision with McDonald on his way to a rematch for the first fight he lost to Hendricks.


Here are the current champions and how they first won their belt. Let me know if anything sticks out to you.

Dillashaw - TKO Barao
Aldo - TKO Mike Brown
Pettis - Submitted Henderson
Lawler - SPLIT DECISION Hendricks
Weidman - KO Silva
Jones - TKO Rua
Velasquez - TKO Lesnar


He got a belt over an abysmal decision. Belts should not change hands over a performance like that.

He's 1-1 with Hendricks and his win was a split decision. I don't know why people are carrying him off the field - good for him and all but acting like he's the dominant guy at 170lbs is just flat out absurd. I think Lombard, Diaz, Condit and probably even Woodly are a bad matchup for him.

A knock down against Rory saved him from losing and earned him a split decision - by the way he ended that round on bottom getting elbowed.

Funny that you criticize the quality of the split-decision win, saying that such a performance shouldn't make the belt change hands.

So why should the performance that this so-called abysmal performance BEAT get to retain the title? If he's so unworthy then why couldn't the "champ" overcome that?

It's not like he's the one who thought that a "winning" strategy was to hold on to a calf and nestle the opponents nuts on the back of his head for two whole rounds.

Lawler was there, willing to fight. The fact that Hendricks wanted to play wall and stall is on Hendricks.

 

[Gilday]

Not a troll thread, not a fighter bashing thread. Seriously. This is about the recent hype of Robbie Lawler, which has gotten completely out of control. People are saying he'd beat Rory, he'd beat GSP, he'd beat the top 5, and so on. This isn't criticism of Robbie Lawler (who I wish the best of luck to), but rather a reminder to sherdoggers who think two KO's in a row = worldbeater.

First of all, he does have a nice win over Koscheck, and another nice win over Voelker. But that's it. The Kosckeck win was great for his standing and put him in the top 10 in official rankings, but the win over Voelker means almost nothing. Voelker is not a top 15 guy and has never been. He lost to Patrick Cote in his previous fight, which should say it all. It's a flashy win but it means nothing in terms of rankings.

With that out of the way, let's looking at Robbie Lawler as a fighter. He's young, 31 years old, and is looking good. But his record shows a different story. He went 3-5 in Strikeforce and is 5-5 in his last ten fights. He's lost guys like Lorenz Larkin, Babalu and Tim Kennedy in that streak. These are not top 10 fighters. And that's just his recent fights - if you go back farther you can see that Lawler has always been a 50/50 fighter. One fight he wins, one fight he loses. He's a good fighter, but he's not a consistent fighter. To those introduced to him by his recent UFC results he looks like a superstar, but to those who have been around a bit we know that he gets a nice win or two then crashes back down to Earth in his next fight.

Now to those saying his losses are at MW and his last 2 wins show that he's a beast at WW, remember that he went to MW for a reason. He lost to Evan Tanner, Pete Spratt and was KO'd (!) by Nick Diaz with one punch. It was awhile ago, but he didn't go to MW because he felt it was his natural weight class, he went there because he was chased there. And now he's back to WW and people are thinking that this is his weightclass, this is where he's always belonged, and they don't know why he wasn't always a WW.

When Robbie fights some of higher ranked UFC fighters you are going to see why he's not taken as seriously as some of you may want as a top contender. He's got an impressive skillset which he uses with a lot of aggression and power to finish fights, but against more complete, skilled fighters his gameplan doesn't usually play out the way he wants to. When he wins, he tends to win spectacularly (he does not decision win people), but he also loses about half his fights. His gameplan is too straight forward to work against the top UFC guys, and especially against someone like Rory Mac, who people are thinking is going to lose to Lawler if Dana gets the fight put together like he wants. Rory in particular is too big, too rangy, and too good at keeping distance to lose to Lawler. He just left MW and he's going to beat a massive WW? Smart money is that Rory Mac is a huge favorite in that fight. Same for most other top fights.

That said, Lawler is always entertaining and great to watch. When he wins, he wins in exciting fashion. Just don't forget that he's been here awhile and never really been a contender. Smart money is he ends up ranked 12-15 and sits around there.

 

[Hendo101]

Lawler is a beast. He's 32 and just now grabbing the belt and that's what scares people away from the Robie Lawler hype train. If you know your shit tho, a guy named Anderson Silva first grabbed the UFC belt at 32 and we all know what transpired after that. Some fighters bloom late, some guys don't take it serious until they get older, and some just can't evolve until their body allows them too. Now, I'm not saying Robbie Lawler is Anderson Silva lol (I know trolls will try and get me there) but Anderson is an example of how "old" fighters can still be the best in a weight division.

 

[rjmbrd]

Funny that you criticize the quality of the split-decision win, saying that such a performance shouldn't make the belt change hands.

So why should the performance that this so-called abysmal performance BEAT get to retain the title? If he's so unworthy then why couldn't the "champ" overcome that?

It's not like he's the one who thought that a "winning" strategy was to hold on to a calf and nestle the opponents nuts on the back of his head for two whole rounds.

Lawler was there, willing to fight. The fact that Hendricks wanted to play wall and stall is on Hendricks.

Lawler got his face and leg smashed in for the better part of 3 rounds while he wandered around listless. He had a big flurry to start and end the fight.

People resent Hendricks so much (I am indifferent to both fighters) that they are happy to see him fall. So be it. Robbie did not deserve to win a belt with that performance, so the 'I told you so' posts in this thread are goofy.

 

[Invictu5]

Can we just end the fucking thread by watching the post-fight presser? Yes, that would be the one where Hendricks fucking admits that he no-showed in R4 and R5. In which he was also gracious in paying respect to Lawler who, let it be fucking clear, apparently wanted it more in this fight. Not a world beater and probably somebody who'd get a full on (platinum?) GSP treatment should that fight ever happen, but a guy who - on the fight night - had more in the tank, desire-wise. A champ can't no-show, not for a single round. It's a point game, for fuck's sake, when the guys are at the same level - as they both acknowledge they are - it's a point game. Neither is particularly chinny, neither is bad on the ground.

 

[C0NCH3TO]

I'm sure he COULD beat Rory, especially since he already did lol. Lawler dominating WW like he has just shows how weak WW really was. Lawler wasn't even a top 10 MW (or even close to it). and now he is beating all of the top guys. GSP might be a hard match up for him if GSP isn't washed up because he would just be holding him down all night.

Disagree. Jumping weight classes are a career suicide most of the times. Robbie should have never left ww. So if Bendo moves to ww and gets destroyed, that means that lw was weak as hell? Hell no, weight classes are out there for a reason.

 

[ovbious]

I always lol at guys who lose a lot of time writing an article that ends up being completely wrong.

 

[devilfisted]

He did beat Rory!

 

[sibelle***]

The likes of Lawler/Hendricks are mid-tier fighters.

lol

 

[Jin Akutsu]

He did beat Rory!

Check OP date.

 

[HAWTRIDDUM]

Not a troll thread, not a fighter bashing thread. Seriously. This is about the recent hype of Robbie Lawler, which has gotten completely out of control. People are saying he'd beat Rory, he'd beat GSP, he'd beat the top 5, and so on. This isn't criticism of Robbie Lawler (who I wish the best of luck to), but rather a reminder to sherdoggers who think two KO's in a row = worldbeater.

First of all, he does have a nice win over Koscheck, and another nice win over Voelker. But that's it. The Kosckeck win was great for his standing and put him in the top 10 in official rankings, but the win over Voelker means almost nothing. Voelker is not a top 15 guy and has never been. He lost to Patrick Cote in his previous fight, which should say it all. It's a flashy win but it means nothing in terms of rankings.

With that out of the way, let's looking at Robbie Lawler as a fighter. He's young, 31 years old, and is looking good. But his record shows a different story. He went 3-5 in Strikeforce and is 5-5 in his last ten fights. He's lost guys like Lorenz Larkin, Babalu and Tim Kennedy in that streak. These are not top 10 fighters. And that's just his recent fights - if you go back farther you can see that Lawler has always been a 50/50 fighter. One fight he wins, one fight he loses. He's a good fighter, but he's not a consistent fighter. To those introduced to him by his recent UFC results he looks like a superstar, but to those who have been around a bit we know that he gets a nice win or two then crashes back down to Earth in his next fight.

Now to those saying his losses are at MW and his last 2 wins show that he's a beast at WW, remember that he went to MW for a reason. He lost to Evan Tanner, Pete Spratt and was KO'd (!) by Nick Diaz with one punch. It was awhile ago, but he didn't go to MW because he felt it was his natural weight class, he went there because he was chased there. And now he's back to WW and people are thinking that this is his weightclass, this is where he's always belonged, and they don't know why he wasn't always a WW.

When Robbie fights some of higher ranked UFC fighters you are going to see why he's not taken as seriously as some of you may want as a top contender. He's got an impressive skillset which he uses with a lot of aggression and power to finish fights, but against more complete, skilled fighters his gameplan doesn't usually play out the way he wants to. When he wins, he tends to win spectacularly (he does not decision win people), but he also loses about half his fights. His gameplan is too straight forward to work against the top UFC guys, and especially against someone like Rory Mac, who people are thinking is going to lose to Lawler if Dana gets the fight put together like he wants. Rory in particular is too big, too rangy, and too good at keeping distance to lose to Lawler. He just left MW and he's going to beat a massive WW? Smart money is that Rory Mac is a huge favorite in that fight. Same for most other top fights.

That said, Lawler is always entertaining and great to watch. When he wins, he wins in exciting fashion. Just don't forget that he's been here awhile and never really been a contender. Smart money is he ends up ranked 12-15 and sits around there.

Yes, let's dwell on Robbies losses from almost a decade ago. I'm sure he is still the same fighter he was 10 years ago.

sounds to me like someone bet money on hendricks and is now in maximum butthurt mode.

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****Whoever brought back this necro thread needs dubs!!!****

 

[Ulti1]

Strike force was such a good promotion

 

[Reffson]

I brought an old Rory thread back too where the OP was smoking the same bad shit as this one.

 

[grooves12]

Fight Finder does not tell the entire story. If it did, we wouldn't have to watch fights or even have the fights happen.

MMAth would tell us everything.

It is clear to anyone who has watched Robbie's career that he has always had the talent. He just lacked the motivation to be a champ. In Strikeforce, he didn't train hard and was more interested in knocking people out and putting on exciting fights.

Since he reemergence in the UFC he looks better than he ever has. He has clearly stepped up his training and looks a lot better than he has in the past. The Robbie Lawler of today would not lose to most of the guys he lost to "recently."

Granted, he is not gonna go on a GSP-like streak. But, he is clearly among the best in the division and deserves his belt (even if I think Hendricks should have won on the scorecards.)

 

[Tarbender]

TS missed Lawler's last 7 fights...

I didn't see the thread date either.......thought it was a really shitty, but detailed troll job! lol