Movies LOGAN v.2 (Dragonlord's Review)

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

If this cosplay can do a good job of bringing wolverine suit, I can imagine MCU will do alot better

Ironrine?

 

[MMouse]

If this cosplay can do a good job of bringing wolverine suit, I can imagine MCU will do alot better

Tbh

Fox and Marvel should come to an agreement and give the fans what they deserve.

Hugh Jackman also has been the most consistant actor playing a specific superhero.

He should continue its legacy as he deserves every bit of it.

 

[feedmelies]

I loved this movie.

 

[76Knockout]

On of my all time favorite films, i liked it that much.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Or it could have been peace.

He was about to die, but he knew that his, "daughter" would live, and be free. He no longer had to worry about her, no longer had to suffer a slow, painful death as the Adamantium poisoned him. He could finally rest.

Ooh that's deep. I like it .

 

[Sanshou Kid]

Enjoyed the first half, thought it went downhill in the later stages. 6 or 6.5/10 I would say, at least for me.

Stephen Merchant was the surprise for me, didn't even know he was in it til the opening credits. He was damn good.

Shame Richard E. Grant got shit all to do.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: March 19, 2017

LOGAN Director James Mangold Explains "So This is What It Feels Like" Line (Spoilers)

James Mangold: (Spoilers) "Well it seemed to me that it had to in some way be a battle with something other than just one of the array of supervillains. What I liked about the idea on a thematic level of battling X-24 and even dying at his hands was that effectively there’s a kind of radian analysis you can make of it all, which is really interesting, which is that he’s effectively a guy who’s gone through 200 years with this burden of shame and guilt and regret, remorse, anger about the violence he’s been forced to and willingly committed in his life, about feeling that he’s been cursed that he can never feel love or sell it because those he connects to die."

"To put his last fight against his own self in a sense, a mirror, a kind of dark mirror—in a way, X-24 in my mind was designed to be a vision of Weapon X, that he’s essentially battling his worst self, and younger, more capable, more savage, and without any sense of conscience or morality. There were several different interesting aspects to me, one is when that part of him, if you look at it for a moment from a psychological point of view, when that mirror image of him dies, it’s very interesting how that becomes in the last minute of the film that he’s alive, the moment where it’s almost like something’s been lifted from him."

"And of the many things I’m proud about the movie, I’m really proud about the way—I don’t expect you to intellectually engage that, but I expect you to feel it. I do think you feel that in the wake of that battle when he turns and Laura kneels beside him, that he is suddenly capable and something has gone away inside him and he’s capable of connecting with her and saying things that the guy who has run through the previous 121 minutes of this movie could not have said, until this point."

"Scott Frank wrote that line ['So this is what it feels like']. We were trading the script back and forth between NY and LA and he wrote that line and sent it to me. Oh my God, I loved it, I knew those were the final words the second I read it, and to me it has two wonderful meanings and Hugh brilliantly plays both of them, one being for a man who has died 450 times in movies, let alone in his career, and yet never dies because of his healing factor, he has no idea, it’s like a tunnel he goes into and never comes out the other side, so there was that very literal meaning in relation to death. But there was also this moment of him holding his daughter’s hand and seeing utter emotion in her eyes and feeling the purest kind of love which is family love, and letting it in for the first time in his life.”

"But essentially, above everything else, it's about being impaled on a tree for the first time. [1]"

‘Logan’ Ending Explained: James Mangold Breaks Down the Wolverine’s Conclusion

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Watched it again. Some of the scenes were lol.. "Hey look, here's a mobile phone that conveniently explains everything with video footage so perfect you'd think it were staged"

Fat tubby black kid running was funny as hell. You got him locked up in a research facility, yet you can't keep him from the cheetohs? What kind of evil dangerous experimental movie lab is this? Oooh Killem!

The only interesting antagonist got shoe-horned to the pine half-way through, for Mr. Generic evil scientist guy, and Hugh Jackman 2.0

The major problem with this film is, it's still an X-men film.. So the universe continuity matters. You want me to appreciate this film in isolation from the rest, yet at the same time take context from the rest. Given how DOFP ends on the highest of notes, and how Logan starts there just needs to be more that fill in the blanks. Realism is cool and all, but it should not take place over making an emotional connection with the audience.. The end result is we have two old grizzled dudes being really sad and depressed, but no one REALLY seems to know why. All they needed to do was add a flashback or creative dream sequence, and it would have spiked the emotional stakes through the roof.

Nolan's trilogy knows when and when not to creatively go deeper... When to provide context and when to adhere to the less is more, mysterious angle







Logan comes across as trying too hard to be something it wasn't set up to be, a total 180 from the last time at the ending of DOFP, and they barely even explore it? The consequence is major emotional connection with the viewer. Imagine that TDKR ending scene revealing himself to Gordon without the visual flashback... Wouldn't have been as good (Keep in mind that had major emotional resonance because it had been built up for 3 movies, unlike Logan that shortcuts to the end)

Imagine TDKR without TDK and BB... That's what Logan is

A visually beautiful film, but an emotionally lacking and inconsistent rendition in the X-men cinematic universe... Tries to go off with a bang, without lighting a fuse.

High Quality CBM but not on that GOAT tier/10

 

[Loiosh]

Watched it again. Some of the scenes were lol.. "Hey look, here's a mobile phone that conveniently explains everything with video footage so perfect you'd think it were staged"

Fat tubby black kid running was funny as hell. You got him locked up in a research facility, yet you can't keep him from the cheetohs? What kind of evil dangerous experimental movie lab is this? Oooh Killem!

The only interesting antagonist got shoe-horned to the pine half-way through, for Mr. Generic evil scientist guy, and Hugh Jackman 2.0

The major problem with this film is, it's still an X-men film.. So the universe continuity matters. You want me to appreciate this film in isolation from the rest, yet at the same time take context from the rest. Given how DOFP ends on the highest of notes, and how Logan starts there just needs to be more that fill in the blanks. Realism is cool and all, but it should not take place over making an emotional connection with the audience.. The end result is we have two old grizzled dudes being really sad and depressed, but no one REALLY seems to know why. All they needed to do was add a flashback or creative dream sequence, and it would have spiked the emotional stakes through the roof.

Nolan's trilogy knows when and when not to creatively go deeper... When to provide context and when to adhere to the less is more, mysterious angle







Logan comes across as trying too hard to be something it wasn't set up to be, a total 180 from the last time at the ending of DOFP, and they barely even explore it? The consequence is major emotional connection with the viewer. Imagine that TDKR ending scene revealing himself to Gordon without the visual flashback... Wouldn't have been as good (Keep in mind that had major emotional resonance because it had been built up for 3 movies, unlike Logan that shortcuts to the end)

Imagine TDKR without TDK and BB... That's what Logan is

A visually beautiful film, but an emotionally lacking and inconsistent rendition in the X-men cinematic universe... Tries to go off with a bang, without lighting a fuse.

High Quality CBM but not on that GOAT tier/10

You're incredibly desperate for attention.

 

[Loiosh]

Update: March 19, 2017

LOGAN Director James Mangold Explains "So This is What It Feels Like" Line (Spoilers)

James Mangold: (Spoilers) "Well it seemed to me that it had to in some way be a battle with something other than just one of the array of supervillains. What I liked about the idea on a thematic level of battling X-24 and even dying at his hands was that effectively there’s a kind of radian analysis you can make of it all, which is really interesting, which is that he’s effectively a guy who’s gone through 200 years with this burden of shame and guilt and regret, remorse, anger about the violence he’s been forced to and willingly committed in his life, about feeling that he’s been cursed that he can never feel love or sell it because those he connects to die."

"To put his last fight against his own self in a sense, a mirror, a kind of dark mirror—in a way, X-24 in my mind was designed to be a vision of Weapon X, that he’s essentially battling his worst self, and younger, more capable, more savage, and without any sense of conscience or morality. There were several different interesting aspects to me, one is when that part of him, if you look at it for a moment from a psychological point of view, when that mirror image of him dies, it’s very interesting how that becomes in the last minute of the film that he’s alive, the moment where it’s almost like something’s been lifted from him."

"And of the many things I’m proud about the movie, I’m really proud about the way—I don’t expect you to intellectually engage that, but I expect you to feel it. I do think you feel that in the wake of that battle when he turns and Laura kneels beside him, that he is suddenly capable and something has gone away inside him and he’s capable of connecting with her and saying things that the guy who has run through the previous 121 minutes of this movie could not have said, until this point."

"Scott Frank wrote that line ['So this is what it feels like']. We were trading the script back and forth between NY and LA and he wrote that line and sent it to me. Oh my God, I loved it, I knew those were the final words the second I read it, and to me it has two wonderful meanings and Hugh brilliantly plays both of them, one being for a man who has died 450 times in movies, let alone in his career, and yet never dies because of his healing factor, he has no idea, it’s like a tunnel he goes into and never comes out the other side, so there was that very literal meaning in relation to death. But there was also this moment of him holding his daughter’s hand and seeing utter emotion in her eyes and feeling the purest kind of love which is family love, and letting it in for the first time in his life.”

"But essentially, above everything else, it's about being impaled on a tree for the first time. [1]"

‘Logan’ Ending Explained: James Mangold Breaks Down the Wolverine’s Conclusion

So we're all right.

I really, really wish I'd gone with the tree thing.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Oh yeah, and the excessive swearing was pretentious as hell. We get it. It's a "different" CBM.

 

[Sanshou Kid]

Oh yeah, and the excessive swearing was pretentious as hell. We get it. It's a "different" CBM.

I got a good laugh out of Professor X swearing, not gonna lie. Wasn't really fitting of his character, but Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman being two bitchy old men at one another made for the best moments in the film.

Those two + mute Laura = gold.

Would prefer that she hadn't started speaking, though, she was shrill and annoying as fuck to my ears.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

I got a good laugh out of Professor X swearing, not gonna lie. Wasn't really fitting of his character, but Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman being two bitchy old men at one another made for the best moments in the film.

Those two + mute Laura = gold.

Would prefer that she hadn't started speaking, though, she was shrill and annoying as fuck to my ears.

I just think they overused 'fuck'

 

[Sanshou Kid]

I just think they overused 'fuck'

I agree. But I think Deadpool was worse for that.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Honestly I think the original Old Man Logan story where he kills them all hallucinating and not Professor, would have been better. Kind of felt like Wolverine was emotionally in the back seat of his own movie. I get it, X killed everyone and everything he loved, but they should have at least gone into that more

 

[mushishi]

X23 first fight scene is what wolverine should have been from the beginning. Lighting quick high level fighting that degrades into animalistic viciousness when his bezerker rage kicks in.

I gave it a 6. I liked the character development. I loved the 1st half. Once the mutant powers started being used it looked like typical fox dog shit fx. Cold breath girl. Blows in a towel. Cools towel.. fuck you fox! I loathe the fox fx set ups.. yards always holding unnatural poses for minutes while enemies just stare at them instead of, oh, I don't know, maybe shooting them. Fu fox.

Gave it a six and I'm being generous. Wolverine fighting was still a fail. X23 was coo.

Prof x cursing...f u fox!

 

[blaseblah]

Most people don't live to be 200 yo with the body count of a small country.
He loved Silverfox, Jean Grey, and Mariko.
He loved, in a different way, Rogue, Kitty Pryde, and Jubilee.
And he had a family with the X-Men for decades. He was closer to Charles than his real dad.
He only knew X-23 for a week. Had to be death, imo.

I don't think any of that shit matters since it's comic book stuff and not movie X-Men stuff.

Movie Logan already experienced dying. But not having a real family. I mean yeah he was part of the X-Men but that's not the same thing as having a daughter.

 

[blaseblah]

X23 first fight scene is what wolverine should have been from the beginning. Lighting quick high level fighting that degrades into animalistic viciousness when his bezerker rage kicks in.

I gave it a 6. I liked the character development. I loved the 1st half. Once the mutant powers started being used it looked like typical fox dog shit fx. Cold breath girl. Blows in a towel. Cools towel.. fuck you fox! I loathe the fox fx set ups.. yards always holding unnatural poses for minutes while enemies just stare at them instead of, oh, I don't know, maybe shooting them. Fu fox.

Gave it a six and I'm being generous. Wolverine fighting was still a fail. X23 was coo.

Prof x cursing...f u fox!

If this is a six I'd hate to see what you rated the other films.

 

[mushishi]

If this is a six I'd hate to see what you rated the other films.

Lol 1 and 2 got a 1 and 2.


Story was compelling, I loved caliban, but not his sniffing, but it had so many of those shitty foxisms that it made me want to puke my own poo out of my peehole.

 

[MikeMcMann]

You're incredibly desperate for attention.

Indeed.

Sees a movie almost universally loved and...