Elections Leftists, you need to bend the knee on Transgender Athletes. The future of the Democrat Party depends on it.

[Sinister]

No one needs to bend the knee to the disingenuous white-knighting of those who just want to preserve patriarchy, and the concept of social heirarchy in general. The right have always hid behind this nonsense concept of protecting the purity of women, and specifically white women because at every given opportunity black women who exceed in Sports are called men/trannies now. Rightists dont give a f*ck about protecting the integrity of any women's Sports, as they're almost always the same people saying women shouldn't be playing Sports in the first place because it isnt lady-like, or who lost their minds if volleyball players dont want to play with their uniforms up their @sses.

This idea of protecting sexual purity is just another way to keep the heirarchies intact and anyone with half a brain can see that. It's not about the fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of athletes who are trans, and the fraction of that fraction that are trans women, specifically, who spend most of their time losing to better and more experienced cis women.

This rhetoric, for the right wing women, is nothing more than the old "that black man over there whistled at me!!" sensationalism re-packaged to suit the preferred out-group of the day.

 

[HereticBD]

The reality is, gender has always been more complicated than these people want to admit, and sports have reflected that complexity from the very beginning.

LOL, no.

This whole panic isn’t about fairness, it’s about weaponizing fear and outrage to distract from actual problems. If people cared this much about fairness in sports, they’d be screaming about wealth disparity in athletic training, pay gaps between male and female athletes, or the way corporate sponsorships determine success far more than biology ever could. But they don’t, because this was never about sports. It was just the latest manufactured panic for people who need a scapegoat.

No. They are entirely separate issues, and you're wrong on both. First of all, people don't like biological men(that's what they are) competing with biological women in sports. The reason for that is obvious to anyone not in the 20% on this issue. It's not fair, and women will get hurt, demoralized and humiliated.

Secondly, nobody complains about women's sports being "underfunded" because they understand that it's about supply and demand. There is no demand for women's sports in general, therefore, the funds they receive will reflect that. No different than a male Professional Cornhole League, alright. It's not sexism. It's simple economics. The WNBA is essentially a charity league, considering they have never made a profit. Even with the great white hope Caitlyn Clark, they're still underwater by tens of millions. That is where this mysterious "pay gap" comes into play. If anything, the WNBA is overfunded. If one of these women's leagues ever start generating hundreds of millions of dollars and they're still paying shit, I'll be right there saying they deserve more.

Whatever though. Keep fighting this retarded fight, if it suits you. Just don't act confused as to why it's not resonating with the public.

 

[LMP]

LOL, no.

No. They are entirely separate issues, and you're wrong on both. First of all, people don't like biological men(that's what they are) competing with biological women in sports. The reason for that is obvious to anyone not in the 20% on this issue. It's not fair, and women will get hurt, demoralized and humiliated.

Secondly, nobody complains about women's sports being "underfunded" because they understand that it's about supply and demand. There is no demand for women's sports in general, therefore, the funds they receive will reflect that. No different than a male Professional Cornhole League, alright. It's not sexism. It's simple economics. The WNBA is essentially a charity league, considering they have never made a profit. Even with the great white hope Caitlyn Clark, they're still underwater by tens of millions. That is where this mysterious "pay gap" comes into play. If anything, the WNBA is overfunded. If one of these women's leagues ever start generating hundreds of millions of dollars and they're still paying shit, I'll be right there saying they deserve more.

Whatever though. Keep fighting this retarded fight, if it suits you. Just don't act confused as to why it's not resonating with the public.

It’s always funny watching you pretend to be a neutral, rational thinker while regurgitating the same tired propaganda you’ve been spoon-fed. You’re not making an argument, you’re just repeating whatever outrage bait was trending in your algorithm this week. You’re not mad because you deeply care about fairness in sports—you’re mad because you’ve been told to be mad.

The trans athlete panic is just the latest in a long line of manufactured outrage meant to give you an easy target for your frustrations. First, it was gay marriage. Then it was bathrooms. Now it’s sports. It’s never about genuine concern, it’s about keeping you angry at a socially acceptable punching bag while ignoring the fact that actual corruption and exploitation are happening all around you. Women’s sports weren’t even on your radar until you were given something new to hate. If you really cared about fairness, you’d be talking about how wealthier schools and nations dominate athletics, how corporate sponsorships determine success more than talent, or how college athletes were unpaid for decades while making billions for their institutions. But no, you’re laser-focused on a handful of trans athletes because that’s what you were told to care about.

And then you go on about how women’s sports are "underfunded" because of supply and demand, as if that’s some natural law and not the result of decades of media bias, lack of investment, and outright systemic neglect. The WNBA isn’t a "charity league," it’s a league that was given a fraction of the funding, marketing, and airtime that men’s sports receive. If funding was always tied to existing demand, no new sport or league would ever grow, yet somehow men’s leagues always get the long runway while women’s leagues are expected to turn a profit overnight or be deemed failures.

What’s really happening here is simple. You, like so many others, have been fed a target for your frustration and ran with it. You’re not questioning why this has been made into a national issue or who benefits from keeping people fixated on it. You just know that it makes you feel righteous and gives you an excuse to look down on others. That’s the entire point of manufactured outrage—to make you feel like you’re part of some moral crusade while completely ignoring the real forces exploiting you.

 

[Sinister]

It’s always funny watching you pretend to be a neutral, rational thinker while regurgitating the same tired propaganda you’ve been spoon-fed. You’re not making an argument, you’re just repeating whatever outrage bait was trending in your algorithm this week. You’re not mad because you deeply care about fairness in sports—you’re mad because you’ve been told to be mad.

The trans athlete panic is just the latest in a long line of manufactured outrage meant to give you an easy target for your frustrations. First, it was gay marriage. Then it was bathrooms. Now it’s sports. It’s never about genuine concern, it’s about keeping you angry at a socially acceptable punching bag while ignoring the fact that actual corruption and exploitation are happening all around you. Women’s sports weren’t even on your radar until you were given something new to hate. If you really cared about fairness, you’d be talking about how wealthier schools and nations dominate athletics, how corporate sponsorships determine success more than talent, or how college athletes were unpaid for decades while making billions for their institutions. But no, you’re laser-focused on a handful of trans athletes because that’s what you were told to care about.

And then you go on about how women’s sports are "underfunded" because of supply and demand, as if that’s some natural law and not the result of decades of media bias, lack of investment, and outright systemic neglect. The WNBA isn’t a "charity league," it’s a league that was given a fraction of the funding, marketing, and airtime that men’s sports receive. If funding was always tied to existing demand, no new sport or league would ever grow, yet somehow men’s leagues always get the long runway while women’s leagues are expected to turn a profit overnight or be deemed failures.

What’s really happening here is simple. You, like so many others, have been fed a target for your frustration and ran with it. You’re not questioning why this has been made into a national issue or who benefits from keeping people fixated on it. You just know that it makes you feel righteous and gives you an excuse to look down on others. That’s the entire point of manufactured outrage—to make you feel like you’re part of some moral crusade while completely ignoring the real forces exploiting you.

Most of these d*ckheads have never, and I mean never, even met a trans person that they were aware was trans. Thus, they havent had to stop and actually ask themselves how they think the World interacts with that person, nor are they likely brave enough to throw the first stone.

Trans people are, in their Worlds, relegated to their memes...and in the case of the really angry seeming ones, their smut search Histories.

 

[LMP]

Most of these d*ckheads have never, and I mean never, even met a trans person that they were aware was trans. Thus, they havent had to stop and actually ask themselves how they think the World interacts with that person, nor are they likely brave enough to throw the first stone.

Trans people are, in their Worlds, relegated to their memes...and in the case of the really angry seeming ones, their smut search Histories.

These "conservatives" rely on an ideology of hate and fear because it’s the foundation of their entire worldview. Their understanding of trans people isn’t based on reality or lived experiences, it’s constructed through reactionary media, outrage fueled echo chambers, and performative cruelty. They don’t see trans individuals as actual people with lives, struggles, and triumphs, but as abstract boogeymen created to justify their own insecurities and misplaced anger.

 

[HereticBD]

It’s always funny watching you pretend to be a neutral, rational thinker while regurgitating the same tired propaganda you’ve been spoon-fed.

Says the guy arguing for men competing with women in women's sports. A rather recent cultural issue prominent with the far left. My position is the same position it's always been. I guarantee that if I suggested this to you 10 years ago, you'd laugh and say it was ridiculous.

But I(and the 80% of Americans) are the ones being manipulated...LOL.

You’re not making an argument, you’re just repeating whatever outrage bait was trending in your algorithm this week. You’re not mad because you deeply care about fairness in sports—you’re mad because you’ve been told to be mad.

I'm not mad at all. My position is sound and backed up by every metric there possibly is. You're the one getting frustrated at trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, because you've ventured into far left la la land.

The trans athlete panic is just the latest in a long line of manufactured outrage meant to give you an easy target for your frustrations.

80% of the American public agrees with me, including 67% of Democrats.

And then you go on about how women’s sports are "underfunded" because of supply and demand, as if that’s some natural law and not the result of decades of media bias, lack of investment, and outright systemic neglect.

It's because of reality. The talent pool is small and the talent is not that good due to genetics. Sports in general aren't all that popular in the grand scheme of things. There are only a few sports that are insanely popular and profitable. Is it also "media bias", that bobsledding is only ever really paid attention to during the Olympics, and the athletes can't depend on it to pay their bills?

The WNBA isn’t a "charity league," it’s a league that was given a fraction of the funding, marketing, and airtime that men’s sports receive.

Because they're not worth the investment. It's as simple as that. Many sports(not just women's sports) have that issue, yet I don't see you making the same argument for them.

If funding was always tied to existing demand, no new sport or league would ever grow, yet somehow men’s leagues always get the long runway while women’s leagues are expected to turn a profit overnight or be deemed failures.

No, it is YOU who expects it to be an overnight success.

What’s really happening here is simple.

Sure is.

You, like so many others, have been fed a target for your frustration and ran with it. You’re not questioning why this has been made into a national issue or who benefits from keeping people fixated on it.

I don't have to question why it's a national issue. I know why it is. Because it's insane. You're the one twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with some complex reasoning as to why people reject it.

You just know that it makes you feel righteous and gives you an excuse to look down on others. That’s the entire point of manufactured outrage—to make you feel like you’re part of some moral crusade while completely ignoring the real forces exploiting you.

Sure. Now tell me what the "real" reason is, as to why people like Police enforcing the law in their neighborhoods. It must be that racism, and certainly not wanting to live in an anarchic society.

Your arguments are laughably terrible. Go back to Reddit. These "arguments" play better with your kind.

 

[LMP]

Says the guy arguing for men competing with women in women's sports. A rather recent cultural issue prominent with the far left. My position is the same position it's always been. I guarantee that if I suggested this to you 10 years ago, you'd laugh and say it was ridiculous.

But I(and the 80% of Americans) are the ones being manipulated...LOL.

I'm not mad at all. My position is sound and backed up by every metric there possibly is. You're the one getting frustrated at trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, because you've ventured into far left la la land.

80% of the American public agrees with me, including 67% of Democrats.

It's because of reality. The talent pool is small and the talent is not that good due to genetics. Sports in general aren't all that popular in the grand scheme of things. There are only a few sports that are insanely popular and profitable. Is it also "media bias", that bobsledding is only ever really paid attention to during the Olympics, and the athletes can't depend on it to pay their bills?


Because they're not worth the investment. It's as simple as that. Many sports(not just women's sports) have that issue, yet I don't see you making the same argument for them.


No, it is YOU who expects it to be an overnight success.

Sure is.

I don't have to question why it's a national issue. I know why it is. Because it's insane. You're the one twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with some complex reasoning as to why people reject it.

Sure. Now tell me what the "real" reason is, as to why people like Police enforcing the law in their neighborhoods. It must be that racism, and certainly not wanting to live in an anarchic society.

Your arguments are laughably terrible. Go back to Reddit. These "arguments" play better with your kind.

The pattern is undeniable right-wing outrage is never about protecting people it’s about maintaining control while distracting from their own corruption. Whether it’s their manufactured hysteria over trans athletes or their moral panic about “groomers,” the conservative movement has perfected the art of projection. They cry about fairness in women’s sports while gutting funding for female athletes. They scream about protecting children from LGBT “indoctrination” while their own politicians, pastors, and power brokers are the ones constantly getting caught in sex trafficking scandals and sex rings.

The same people who insist that trans athletes are an existential threat to fairness in sports have no issue supporting known predators like Dennis Hastert, Roy Moore, or Matt Gaetz. They’ll whip their base into a frenzy over a drag queen reading a book to kids in a library but stay silent when a GOP megadonor is caught with a hidden basement full of underage victims. They scream about trans women having an "unfair advantage" in competition while they turn a blind eye to the actual systemic inequalities faced by female athletes. It’s not about fairness, just like their so-called concern for children’s safety was never really about children.

This is the core of their strategy take a small, marginalized group whether it's trans people, immigrants, or LGBT individuals and make them the scapegoat for society’s problems. It’s an old playbook, one that’s been used throughout history by those in power to maintain their grip while covering up their own crimes.

The reality is, trans athletes are not destroying sports. LGBT people are not preying on children as you pretend. But right-wing politicians? They keep getting caught doing exactly the things they accuse others of. And the louder they scream, the more obvious it becomes: They aren’t protecting kids. They aren’t protecting women. They’re just protecting themselves.

And you keep supporting them too.

 

[Sinister]

These "conservatives" rely on an ideology of hate and fear because it’s the foundation of their entire worldview. Their understanding of trans people isn’t based on reality or lived experiences, it’s constructed through reactionary media, outrage fueled echo chambers, and performative cruelty. They don’t see trans individuals as actual people with lives, struggles, and triumphs, but as abstract boogeymen created to justify their own insecurities and misplaced anger.

Well there is one context in which they can agree they are human beings:

"Mentally ill."

This way they dont have to feel a particular way about how they're treated. Because they're already fine with leaving the mentally ill to die on the streets because bootstraps or some sh*t.

 

[LMP]

Well there is one context in which they can agree they are human beings:

"Mentally ill."

This way they dont have to feel a particular way about how they're treated. Because they're already fine with leaving the mentally ill to die on the streets because bootstraps or some sh*t.

I had been away for awhile. Needed to come back and drop knowledge around here.

 

[Sinister]

I had been away for awhile. Needed to come back and drop knowledge around here.

All good stuff. Just straight for the jugular of the bullsh*t talking points they use as political cudgels to make their opposition seem morally reprehensible while ignoring countless sexual scandals of people they vote for..

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You don't want the Dems to "drop it", you want the Dems to abandon a segment of the population and capitulate to the vilification of Trans people, don't you?

In any event, an occurrence of less than 1% of NCAA athletes doesn't determine my vote in any way. It is a non-issue in the governance of the nation.

The fact is its not about you.
Its about the undecided voters around elections.
And the Trans-Athletes politics is a 80-20 issue, and those who are in favor of it are the 20.
If you want more Dems in the House/Senate/WH you probably want to focus more on the issues that matter to the vast majority of voters, and stop listening to the loud activists.

 

[HereticBD]

The pattern is undeniable right-wing outrage is never about protecting people it’s about maintaining control while distracting from their own corruption. Whether it’s their manufactured hysteria over trans athletes or their moral panic about “groomers,” the conservative movement has perfected the art of projection. They cry about fairness in women’s sports while gutting funding for female athletes. They scream about protecting children from LGBT “indoctrination” while their own politicians, pastors, and power brokers are the ones constantly getting caught in sex trafficking scandals and sex rings.

The same people who insist that trans athletes are an existential threat to fairness in sports have no issue supporting known predators like Dennis Hastert, Roy Moore, or Matt Gaetz. They’ll whip their base into a frenzy over a drag queen reading a book to kids in a library but stay silent when a GOP megadonor is caught with a hidden basement full of underage victims. They scream about trans women having an "unfair advantage" in competition while they turn a blind eye to the actual systemic inequalities faced by female athletes. It’s not about fairness, just like their so-called concern for children’s safety was never really about children.

This is the core of their strategy take a small, marginalized group whether it's trans people, immigrants, or LGBT individuals and make them the scapegoat for society’s problems. It’s an old playbook, one that’s been used throughout history by those in power to maintain their grip while covering up their own crimes.

The reality is, trans athletes are not destroying sports. LGBT people are not preying on children as you pretend. But right-wing politicians? They keep getting caught doing exactly the things they accuse others of. And the louder they scream, the more obvious it becomes: They aren’t protecting kids. They aren’t protecting women. They’re just protecting themselves.

And you keep supporting them too.

Cool beans.

By all means, stay in the 20% and talk down to people like you're the 80%. Working out great for ya!

 

[LMP]

Cool beans.

By all means, stay in the 20% and talk down to people like you're the 80%. Working out great for ya!

Ah yes, the classic "majority rules, so we must be right" argument the last refuge of someone who has no actual rebuttal. You lean on polling numbers like a crutch because you can’t engage with the argument itself. History is full of examples where the majority was dead wrong segregation, bans on interracial marriage, opposition to same-sex marriage. Public opinion shifts, and the fact that you're clinging to it like it's some kind of moral compass just shows how fragile your position is.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Kamala barely spoke about trans people or any identity politics and still lost. She gave the typical I will fight for all Americans speech and it didn’t seem to help. People voted Trump because they wrongly perceived him to be better on the economy. Corporate dems should move out of the way and let someone run on universal healthcare among other things that help the working class and they’ll win. I’m not even saying I agree with the trans in women’s sports thing but the fact that it was barely talked about in her campaign speaks more about how powerful right wing messaging is in this country.

The key word of this post is 'barely.'
There are so many presidential nominees talk about that any one single issue could be said they 'barely' talk about, but its actually quite interesting she didn't talk about trans-issues more... because it was obviously divisive toward the greater voting population.

It didn't poll well.

In fact it polled so badly, that's why the Trump campaign made a campaign ad out of an answer she gave in an old interview from her first attempt to run for the Democrat Nomination in 2019 about trans-prisoners getting taxpayer-funded sex changes.

So its not about what she said or didn't... in 2024... it was about what she said in 2019, and she never bothered to address it in 2024. She chose to disdirect about the subject when she was asked about it by Brett Baier in her Fox News interview.

In other words, Democrat candidates should strongly consider avoiding the subject at all costs or it may bite then in the ass, if not sooner than later.

 

[HereticBD]

Ah yes, the classic "majority rules, so we must be right" argument the last refuge of someone who has no actual rebuttal.

I've given plenty to rebut your ridiculous position. You're just incapable of seeing reason, and will lean on "You darn conservatives and your manufactured outrage", even in the face of 67% of Democrats also agreeing with my position.

I can only help you so much. If you refuse to acknowledge reality, that's on you. Go on believing that there are no differences between biological men and women competing in sports, and anyone complaining about it are just chuds or whatever. The rest of us will move on, and look at you like some strange anomaly in the human condition.

You'll just be one of those 20% weirdos in the history books that supported this insane shit, as students ask "How did the Democrat Party die?"

Meh, it's your funeral.

 

[LMP]

I've given plenty to rebut your ridiculous position. You're just incapable of seeing reason, and will lean on "You darn conservatives and your manufactured outrage", even in the face of 67% of Democrats also agreeing with my position.

I can only help you so much. If you refuse to acknowledge reality, that's on you. Go on believing that there are no differences between biological men and women competing in sports, and anyone complaining about it are just chuds or whatever. The rest of us will move on, and look at you like some strange anomaly in the human condition.

You'll just be one of those 20% weirdos in the history books that supported this insane shit, as students ask "How did the Democrat Party die?"

Meh, it's your funeral.

Ah, the classic "I've already won this argument, you're just too blind to see it!" tactic, the go-to move for someone who hasn't actually countered a single point. You've repeated the same pre-packaged bullshit like a broken record, but at no point have you actually engaged with anything beyond your own confirmation bias. Your entire strategy is to declare yourself the rational one, wave around a cherry-picked statistic, and then smugly act like the conversation is beneath you, all without ever addressing a real counterargument.

You talk a big game about “reality,” yet your entire response is just an exercise in avoidance. When challenged, you don’t break down why trans participation in sports is inherently unfair beyond vague appeals to biology, as if sports haven’t always had physical disparities even within sex-segregated categories. You don’t explain why banning trans athletes outright is the only solution, rather than, say, refining policies to account for fairness. You don’t engage with any nuance because that would require stepping outside your ideological comfort zone, and let’s be honest, that’s not happening.

At the end of the day, this was never a debate for you. It was just an opportunity to repeat what you already heard others say and pretend that saying something louder makes it more correct. If your position were as sound as you claim, you'd be able to actually argue it instead of relying on smug dismissals and polling data as a substitute for logic even though that was already shown to be a fallacy. But since you clearly can't, all that's left is this little performance of self-congratulation. So enjoy that i guess.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Well, that's all well and good, but unfortunately for you it is a big issue to the nation, and votes are being decided on it. No amount of blaming Republicans for pushing back on this insanity(that you even begrudgingly agree with) is going to change that.

Yes, the Dems need to drop it. They are on the losing side of the issue, and the more they double down, the more they will lose by giving the Reps the easiest layup in political history. People like good economic policy and whatnot. They also like their leaders to not be batshit and argue for men becoming women and invading their spaces.

Trans people have the same rights everyone else has. They can work, vote, invest and buy property. What they don't have is the right to infringe on other's rights and have special privileges, which is all the Dems are really arguing for at this point. If dropping that is akin to "abandoning" them, then so be it. Or they can ride that tranny wave all the way to party irrelevancy.

As I already stated... I am amazed that a wedge issue that has literally zero effect on the vast majority of Americans is able to get otherwise rational folks to activate full send on fascism.

Trans---REEEEEEEEEeee! Doesn't say much for the voting public, does it?

As I also already stated, I don't believe Trans-women should be able to participate in ANY competitive sport.
You wanna play beer league hockey.... fill your boots, you wanna compete for College Scholarships, hard nope...not because they are Trans, but because it's a massive fucking cheat, disadvantages biological women and makes a mockery of sport.
The folks upping Trans athletes have got it very wrong IMO.

However, I'll take supporting our allies and normalized relations with the rest of the civilized world over getting that singular issue correct every day of the week. The two aren't remotely equivalent for me as a voter.

I'll take a booming economy over a trade war any day of the week as well.

I should also state that I am supportive of the Trans community, just like I'm perfectly fine with folks that listen to Country music. The way folks try to demonize Trans people is just wrong. Just like victimizing ANY minority group is wrong.
It's not for me, but your choices don't effect me...you know. Pursuit of happiness and all that.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You'll just be one of those 20% weirdos in the history books that supported this insane shit, as students ask "How did the Democrat Party die?"

It'll be because they'll be perceived as a party that used distraction issues, like everything related to Trans-people, to both label their political enemies as '____ists' & '____phobes,' and to distract from the real issues like illegal immigration, funding the world's wars for the benefit of the MDC which funds their campaigns, and being mouthpieces for the 'Ultra-Rich' they always complain about while also complaining about DOGE unearthing hundreds of billions of dollars of waste, fraud, and abuse rampant through the federal government.

They can write long posts about how all of this doesn't really matter and its just an irrelevant issue... but nothing they've said has put a dent into anything I said in the OP.

It absolutely is an issue for the 2026 & 2028 elections their candidates & nominees will be asked questions about... by their own side....and "I will be an elected representative with the best interests in mind for all Americans" (The Kamala answer) won't cut it.

So, you better hope your candidates & nominees....

 

[Hdfi]

No one needs to bend the knee to the disingenuous white-knighting of those who just want to preserve patriarchy, and the concept of social heirarchy in general. The right have always hid behind this nonsense concept of protecting the purity of women, and specifically white women because at every given opportunity black women who exceed in Sports are called men/trannies now. Rightists dont give a f*ck about protecting the integrity of any women's Sports, as they're almost always the same people saying women shouldn't be playing Sports in the first place because it isnt lady-like, or who lost their minds if volleyball players dont want to play with their uniforms up their @sses.

This idea of protecting sexual purity is just another way to keep the heirarchies intact and anyone with half a brain can see that. It's not about the fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of athletes who are trans, and the fraction of that fraction that are trans women, specifically, who spend most of their time losing to better and more experienced cis women.

This rhetoric, for the right wing women, is nothing more than the old "that black man over there whistled at me!!" sensationalism re-packaged to suit the preferred out-group of the day.

Most biological women don't want biological men in their spaces. Isn't that enough? Why do you want to force them to accept a creepy annoying minority?

 

[sanguinius]

Ah, the classic "I've already won this argument, you're just too blind to see it!" tactic, the go-to move for someone who hasn't actually countered a single point. You've repeated the same pre-packaged bullshit like a broken record, but at no point have you actually engaged with anything beyond your own confirmation bias. Your entire strategy is to declare yourself the rational one, wave around a cherry-picked statistic, and then smugly act like the conversation is beneath you, all without ever addressing a real counterargument.

You talk a big game about “reality,” yet your entire response is just an exercise in avoidance. When challenged, you don’t break down why trans participation in sports is inherently unfair beyond vague appeals to biology, as if sports haven’t always had physical disparities even within sex-segregated categories. You don’t explain why banning trans athletes outright is the only solution, rather than, say, refining policies to account for fairness. You don’t engage with any nuance because that would require stepping outside your ideological comfort zone, and let’s be honest, that’s not happening.

At the end of the day, this was never a debate for you. It was just an opportunity to repeat what you already heard others say and pretend that saying something louder makes it more correct. If your position were as sound as you claim, you'd be able to actually argue it instead of relying on smug dismissals and polling data as a substitute for logic even though that was already shown to be a fallacy. But since you clearly can't, all that's left is this little performance of self-congratulation. So enjoy that i guess.

You are arguing that the sky is bright green with pink polka dots to someone that says it is blue.

Edit: btw, love the avatar. What a backfire the political hit job against trump was, huh? Thanks you guys like you pushing the mug shot like it meant something, more people see the evils the left was doing. Thanks for that.