Leaving a job you really like on principle

IloveTHIS said:
What do you do when you really really like your relatively new job, that has a lot of potential down the road but currently pays shit? Right now my role is crucial to the company, if I were to leave it would have a huge impact and make my boss as well as other top brass' life hell. Yet my boss is still giving me a hard time and paying me much less than I contribute because I haven't been there but 8 months or so

I contribute literally just as much as another worker that makes probably 3xish what I do. I feel like if my boss doesn't wisen up I should quit on principle or at least give an ultimatum. But, I really like the job and there is real potential i could make way more than I ever have in my life in 2-5 years if I stay
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I would quit a job based solely on the principle of not working with someone like you.
 
Finding a job you enjoy is tough these days.
Plus you said you may make more than you dreamed a few years down the track.

Seems like an easy decision to me, unless you have some equally great job knocking down your door.

It may not relate to you but I've seen lots of vids of young folk crying etc because they go to work, come home and have little time to themselves, pay their rent and live alone and have little money left.

Most of us did this when we left home and started out. We had flatmates/shared housing etc to share expenses because often you make fuck all money when you start out. You have to establish yourself.
I was someone who hated nearly every minute of my job and my first place consisted of me sharing with two friends (a couple that had domestics all the time) and my bedroom consisted of a bedside table and a matress on the floor. As time went on I added to it and shared with different people and ultimately got my own place..

A job you enjoy with a large amount of pay possible after a few years when you are starting out would be a dream bro.
 
IloveTHIS said:
What do you do when you really really like your relatively new job, that has a lot of potential down the road but currently pays shit? Right now my role is crucial to the company, if I were to leave it would have a huge impact and make my boss as well as other top brass' life hell. Yet my boss is still giving me a hard time and paying me much less than I contribute because I haven't been there but 8 months or so

I contribute literally just as much as another worker that makes probably 3xish what I do. I feel like if my boss doesn't wisen up I should quit on principle or at least give an ultimatum. But, I really like the job and there is real potential i could make way more than I ever have in my life in 2-5 years if I stay
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I have learned something over the years..Nobody is irreplaceable.. You will leave.. They will replace you.. Life will go on..

Lot's of places also show you the golden carrot down the road.. Unless you know it is a reality 100% don't believe it

If they won't pay.. start looking for a new job and then quit.
 
Azure said:
I have learned something over the years..Nobody is irreplaceable.. You will leave.. They will replace you.. Life will go on..

Lot's of places also show you the golden carrot down the road.. Unless you know it is a reality 100% don't believe it

If they won't pay.. start looking for a new job and then quit.
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People really need to understand this.

A few months back we lost a really really solid coworker.
She had a degree from one of the most prestigious uni in Europe, one of the smartest persons I ever met, and only 30 years old. She was a key person in the work place.
She left to pursue a PhD.
2 months after she left.. its like she was never there (work wise) we hired new people.
Took like a month to get them up to speed and its business as usual.
 
Everybody is replaceable in some way but being unique and doing unique things are your best insulation against being undervalued.

If your argument for more money includes comparisons to anyone else, you're probably fucked.

Be singular and you will get paid.

Edit: just go get another job, if they value you, you'll find out
 
I read the first post in this thread. I'll post a few more messages here. However, it will be later.

First of all, I absolutely have to mention that I want Michael Chandler to decapitate McGregor.

I don't know if McGregor will ever have more MMA fights. However, I know for a fact that I'll root for a gargantuan amount of MMA fighters when they're against McGregor.
 
IloveTHIS said:
What do you do when you really really like your relatively new job, that has a lot of potential down the road but currently pays shit? Right now my role is crucial to the company, if I were to leave it would have a huge impact and make my boss as well as other top brass' life hell. Yet my boss is still giving me a hard time and paying me much less than I contribute because I haven't been there but 8 months or so

I contribute literally just as much as another worker that makes probably 3xish what I do. I feel like if my boss doesn't wisen up I should quit on principle or at least give an ultimatum. But, I really like the job and there is real potential i could make way more than I ever have in my life in 2-5 years if I stay
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Leaving a job because it pays bad is not leaving on principles.
 
IloveTHIS said:
Right now my role is crucial to the company, if I were to leave it would have a huge impact and make my boss as well as other top brass' life hell.
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As someone who has some management experience, this isn't true. They will find a replacement and keep on trucking. I always did.
 
Crash Lance said:
I read the first post in this thread. I'll post a few more messages here. However, it will be later.

First of all, I absolutely have to mention that I want Michael Chandler to decapitate McGregor.

I don't know if McGregor will ever have more MMA fights. However, I know for a fact that I'll root for a gargantuan amount of MMA fighters when they're against McGregor.
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I dont think you even read the title of the thread...

"Leaving a job you really like on principle"
 
If the pay is shifty then you really don't have much of a choice. On the other hand, having a job that you enjoy and have fun makes life better.
 
Crash Lance said:
I read the first post in this thread. I'll post a few more messages here. However, it will be later.

First of all, I absolutely have to mention that I want Michael Chandler to decapitate McGregor.

I don't know if McGregor will ever have more MMA fights. However, I know for a fact that I'll root for a gargantuan amount of MMA fighters when they're against McGregor.
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IloveTHIS said:
What do you do when you really really like your relatively new job, that has a lot of potential down the road but currently pays shit? Right now my role is crucial to the company, if I were to leave it would have a huge impact and make my boss as well as other top brass' life hell. Yet my boss is still giving me a hard time and paying me much less than I contribute because I haven't been there but 8 months or so

I contribute literally just as much as another worker that makes probably 3xish what I do. I feel like if my boss doesn't wisen up I should quit on principle or at least give an ultimatum. But, I really like the job and there is real potential i could make way more than I ever have in my life in 2-5 years if I stay
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You only get paid more when you can convince someone else that you should be paid for or that your boss is afraid of losing you. A super competent noob will still get paid just noob wages because they don't have leverage. Leverage comes with experience and time, which doesn't sound right but it just is because people have a hard time quantifying experience.

Also, companies will rarely see you as the value you contribute. Things might slow down when you leave, if you are actually that productive, but companies get bent on paying average wages even if it hurts them. Companies don't like employees ransoming them and paying above average sets a precident for other employees. You don't have as much leverage as you think you do because companies are dumb. The only time I have seen someone having a massive amount of leverage was in a small engineering firm with an experienced and very specialized engineer who could not be readily replaced and could command a very high wage from large companies. In that situation, the guy was basically made partner with the owners.
 
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Prefect said:
You only get paid more when you can convince someone else that you should be paid for or that your boss is afraid of losing you. A super competent noob will still get paid just noob wages because they don't have leverage. Leverage comes with experience and time, which doesn't sound right but it just is because people have a hard time quantifying experience.

Also, companies will rarely see you as the value you contribute. Things might slow down when you leave, if you are actually that productive, but companies get bent on paying average wages even if it hurts them. Companies don't like employees ransoming them and paying above average sets a precident for other employees. You don't have as much leverage as you think you do because companies are dumb. The only time I have seen someone having a massive amount of leverage was in a small engineering firm with an experienced and very specialized engineer who could not be readily replaced and could command a very high wage from large companies. In that situation, the guy was basically made partner with the owners.
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He said he got a raise a few posts ago and told all the naysayers to suck it.
 
Not reading 4 pages, but can you survive on your salary for the year? Is it a job you really want to stick out for the long term and can see career progression?

If all of the above, be sterling and stick it out and come to them with what you've done for the company and ask for a raise/promotion/both.
 
fingercuffs said:
Not reading 4 pages, but can you survive on your salary for the year? Is it a job you really want to stick out for the long term and can see career progression?

If all of the above, be sterling and stick it out and come to them with what you've done for the company and ask for a raise/promotion/both.
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At least read the post above yours. Last post prior to yours.
 
Brom Bones said:
I would quit a job based solely on the principle of not working with someone like you.
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I'll tell you what often happens in engineering, you have a younger person thinking they should paid what the old guy gets paid because they work so hard. The part that they forget is that the old guy is around to remember historical issues the company has had and solve hard problems. New guy might be able to do 80% of the work that old guy does and faster but when something weird happens or things are high stakes, that is why the company keeps the old guy around. Companies don't keep old guys around to grind through day to day work. They are too expensive for that type of work.
 
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