Crime Las Vegas Mass Shooting

[Falsedawn]

So you read a secondary source which wouldn't even be cited in an office memo and you believe this holds precedence over literally the highest authorities of law in the United States

- US Constitution
- SCOTUS
- 200+ years of caselaw

I'll actually read this source tho. Might be interesting

A secondary source that cites primary sources that provide historical context to the decision made by the highest authorities of law in the United States.

That was the whole point of my argument, that Scalia neglected to consider the historical context of the second when ruling on DC vs Heller.

You can quote the case all you want, that doesn't change the fact that "oriiginalist" Scalia made a big fat oopsie when he decided to legislate from the bench. Hypocrisy, thy name is Antonin.

 

[makavelihhh]

How so?

I come from Italy, and I'm used about seeing interviews with parents or siblings of mobsters/murderers/rapists dramatically saying that their kid/brother is a saint and that he would never do anything like what he is accused of. But I honestly never heard interviews like these ones. They look like something you would see in a TV series. The guy is either crazy or acting, for whatever reason. I know this sounds absolutely nuts, but this is what scares me.

Nobody would believe in the MKUltra if it wasn't proven.
In Cuba things are happening right now that are literally out of science fiction.

 

[My Spot]

I agree with you 90 percent but I do sort of think its a bit of a disingenuous argument to act like the prevalence of fire arms has nothing to do with the amount of shooting deaths. Yours and mine might behave but they are extremely readily available to people who dont think like you and I and do infact misuse them

I think what we should really say and focus on is that as horrific as murder is we are willing to tolerate those risks so that law abiding folks may defend themselves. There are legit self defense shootings and cases of attackers fleeing at the sight of a gun (attempted crime isnt really kept track of)every day and I am willing to make the assumption that every year more people protect themselves than murder making it a right worth preserving. Its not a very emotional way of looking at it but thats the cold hard truth as I see it

Well our gun homicide rate is half of what it was 20 years ago despite an over 50% increase in ownership.

 

[My Spot]

A secondary source that cites primary sources that provide historical context to the decision made by the highest authorities of law in the United States.

That was the whole point of my argument, that Scalia neglected to consider the historical context of the second when ruling on DC vs Heller.

You can quote the case all you want, that doesn't change the fact that "oriiginalist" Scalia made a big fat oopsie when he decided to legislate from the bench. Hypocrisy, thy name is Antonin.

Except you're on record as being a fan of judicial activism so who's the hypocrite now, Mr. Poopypants?!

 

[Quipling]

Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June

Updated October 4, 2017 - 10:00 am
Stephen Paddock, who killed at least 58 people and wounded hundreds more in Las Vegas on Sunday with high-powered rifles, was prescribed an anti-anxiety drug in June that can lead to aggressive behavior, the Las Vegas Review-Journal has learned.

Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21.

A woman who answered the phone at Winkler’s office would not make him available to answer questions and would neither confirm nor deny that Paddock was ever a patient.

Paddock purchased the drug — its brand name is Valium — without insurance at a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day it was prescribed. He was supposed to take one pill a day.

Diazepam is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodiazepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behavior. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam can also trigger psychotic experiences, according to drugabuse.com.

'They can become aggressive’

“If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,” said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”

Pohl, who spoke to the Review-Journal from the Netherlands, said the effects of the drug also can be magnified by alcohol.

A 2015 study published in World Psychiatry of 960 Finnish adults and teens convicted of homicide showed that their odds of killing were 45 percent higher during time periods when they were on benzodiazepines.

A year earlier, the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry published a study titled, “Benzodiazepine Use and Aggressive Behavior.” The authors wrote: “It appears that benzodiazepine use is moderately associated with subsequent aggressive behavior.”

Rest at:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local...shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/

You sure you want to argue that he lost his shit because of a 4 month old Valium prescription?

Valium?

 

[makavelihhh]

What did he say?

Whatch them yourself, it's not just what he says, it's also how.

Considering that the father was nuts it's not a wild jump to believe that both sons are/were nuts too.

 

[Falsedawn]

Except you're on record as being a fan of judicial activism so who's the hypocrite now, Mr. Poopypants?!

Bitch bye.

 

[cincymma79]

Reportedly, he raised no flags because the rifles were purchased individually and never more than one.

Gotta give the cunt this much, he was a dedicated cunt

 

[TheGreatA]

I come from Italy, and I'm used about seeing interviews with parents or siblings of mobsters/murderers/rapists dramatically saying that their kid/brother is a saint and that he would never do anything like what he is accused of. But I honestly never heard interviews like these ones. They look like something you would see in a TV series. The guy is either crazy or acting, for whatever reason. I know this sounds absolutely nuts, but this is what scares me.

Nobody would believe in the MKUltra if it wasn't proven.
In Cuba things are happening right now that are literally out of science fiction.

Well, we should take into account that his father was a diagnosed psychopath and a bank robber, while his brother was a mass murderer living a double life.

It's entirely possible that the brother too is a sociopath who finds it impossible to empathize with the victims, thus he is forced to put on a show for the cameras, to salvage his own reputation. He made reference to the fact that he has made his millions living a criminal lifestyle, after all.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

When he said he was going to wipe out their debt or when he sent the military in

That's good if he wipes out their debt. He also mentioned that the disaster has thrown his administrations budget out of wack. Bad choice of words there.

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1C80DO

"I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack because we've spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico,"

 

[makavelihhh]

Well, we should take into account that his father was a diagnosed psychopath and a bank robber, while his brother was a mass murderer living a double life.

It's entirely possible that the brother too is a sociopath who finds it impossible to empathize with the victims, thus he is forced to put on a show for the cameras. He made reference to the fact that he has made his millions living a criminal lifestyle, after all.

I agree, in fact I said that in a later message.

 

[AlphaWolf2EZ]

Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June

Updated October 4, 2017 - 10:00 am
Stephen Paddock, who killed at least 58 people and wounded hundreds more in Las Vegas on Sunday with high-powered rifles, was prescribed an anti-anxiety drug in June that can lead to aggressive behavior, the Las Vegas Review-Journal has learned.

Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21.

A woman who answered the phone at Winkler’s office would not make him available to answer questions and would neither confirm nor deny that Paddock was ever a patient.

Paddock purchased the drug — its brand name is Valium — without insurance at a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day it was prescribed. He was supposed to take one pill a day.

Diazepam is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodiazepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behavior. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam can also trigger psychotic experiences, according to drugabuse.com.

'They can become aggressive’

“If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,” said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”

Pohl, who spoke to the Review-Journal from the Netherlands, said the effects of the drug also can be magnified by alcohol.

A 2015 study published in World Psychiatry of 960 Finnish adults and teens convicted of homicide showed that their odds of killing were 45 percent higher during time periods when they were on benzodiazepines.

A year earlier, the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry published a study titled, “Benzodiazepine Use and Aggressive Behavior.” The authors wrote: “It appears that benzodiazepine use is moderately associated with subsequent aggressive behavior.”

Rest at:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local...shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/

that's F'ing scary!...

so we inject newborns with 60+ Vaccinations .....then as our Bodies are are already compromised we have prescription Meds to further damage our Brain Chemistry!!!!!

I understand there are a small% of people who really really need Meds to survive but sh!t is outta hand....Big Pharma has to be a major part of this problem.

 

[faustian]

I await that besmirching.

The Hidden History of the Second Amendment







Obsession with daddy noted.

Go get your fucking shine box.

Lol. So the 2nd A was really just a conspiracy to keep the black man down

I honestly expected better

Serious question: have you actually read all 100 pages of this opinion piece?

 

[Rational Poster]

Gotta give the cunt this much, he was a dedicated cunt

If he had even purchased just two handguns at once it would have elevated him in the ATF/FBI... but 33 rifles spaced out over 12 months + thousands of rounds, cash or credit?

 

[My Spot]

Bitch bye.

Ah, someone publicly put me on ignore.

 

[cincymma79]

That's good if he wipes out their debt. He also mentioned that the disaster has thrown his administrations budget out of wack. Bad choice of words there.

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1C80DO

So what? How many years before you stop getting offended by words? People voted for this. Move on or get a Prozac prescription. Being offended doesn't do anything. I don't like it either. Tune it out and focus on his actions

 

[My Spot]

Lol. So the 2nd A was really just a conspiracy to keep the black man down

I honestly expected better

Serious question: have you actually read all 100 pages of this opinion piece?

I guess he doesn't realize that gun control started with white people who were afraid of freed slaves arming themselves. Oh the irony.

 

[Rational Poster]

Well, we should take into account that his father was a diagnosed psychopath and a bank robber, while his brother was a mass murderer living a double life.

It's entirely possible that the brother too is a sociopath who finds it impossible to empathize with the victims, thus he is forced to put on a show for the cameras, to salvage his own reputation. He made reference to the fact that he has made his millions living a criminal lifestyle, after all.

Regular people act really stupid in front of cameras.

That's why we pay professionals to do it.

 

[ShoelessRye]

Seems the guy was going drifting into paranoia. Neighbors say he was withdrawn and always kept the drapes closed.

that's F'ing scary!...

so we inject newborns with 60+ Vaccinations .....then as our Bodies are are already compromised we have prescription Meds to further damage our Brain Chemistry!!!!!

I understand there are a small% of people who really really need Meds to survive but sh!t is outta hand....Big Pharma has to be a major part of this problem.

He was already stockpiling his arsenal by that time.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

If he had even purchased just two handguns at once it would have elevated him in the ATF/FBI... but 33 rifles spaced out over 12 months + thousands of rounds, cash or credit?

That's so retarded. System needs fixing.