Crime Las Vegas Mass Shooting

[second sight]

You from vegas..or someone you know get injured or killed?

no, the commit was about the controversial video

 

[Andy Capp]

My question is why do people want to grab guns and attack this Constitutional issue? Violent crime is at an all-time low and continues to trend that way. Exclude a handful of certain sections of certain US cities and violent crime is a total afterthought. It would seem like gun control shouldn't really be a policy priority.

So what's the actual motive here?

Violent crime in general might be down but incidents of this sort seem to be on an uptick.

I don't know if there's anything that can be done about guns in the US. It's probably already too late. I'd like to see it be harder to get them except that would disproportionately drive poor people to getting them illegally. Therefore the best bang for the buck, no pun intended, is likely big investment in mental health care.

 

[SMEAC]

So we don't consider all speech to be equally valuable then? It's not a 100% absolute right, is it?

For the stupid scenario you are trying to lay out to make sense it would have to be legal to brandish...

 

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[Cubo de Sangre]

So we don't consider all speech to be equally valuable then? It's not a 100% absolute right, is it?

As pointed out, brandishing is illegal. Do you have any parallel reasoning with merit?

 

[caliboi74lv]

I agree that people need to see this make it real. The POS that shot the people didnt have to see or smell the blood.

it's disturbing and that guy touching bodies is a jackass..good he was checking on people, but filming, IDK.. I didn't mind watching. Iv'e seen dead bodies live. it's real to me because i have friends who lost someone or was injured.

 

[HomerThompson]

For the stupid scenario you are trying to lay out to make sense it would have to be legal to brandish...

Hunh?

 

[Andy Capp]

Religious experience itself is not the problem IMO.

Growing up in a family where half of the people are blue color I can attest to witnessing a certain prideful animosity towards the educated also.

Yeah, no doubt about both of those. I'm not anti-religion. I'm anti-fundamentalism. The point is, Americans know how to put the mental in fundamental.

 

[SMEAC]

Hunh?

I know that you are going in all the gun threads showing your ass, but I'm sure that even your boy Rob got this one

 

[HomerThompson]

As pointed out, brandishing is illegal. Do you have any parallel reasoning with merit?

You don't get to set the parameters of the discussion, sorry. If all speech isn't equally protected, why would all guns and their accessories need to be completely equally protected?

 

[HomerThompson]

I know that you are going in all the gun threads showing your ass, but I'm sure that even your boy Rob got this one

So you've got nothing.

 

[second sight]

it's disturbing and that guy touching bodies is a jackass..good he was checking on people, but filming, IDK.. I didn't mind watching. Iv'e seen dead bodies live. it's real to me because i have friends who lost someone or was injured.

I could argue that maybe we all need to see them

 

[SMEAC]

So you've got nothing.

Don't project hot dog

Your reasoning is based upon the use of guns being absolute

 

[caliboi74lv]

no, the commit was about the controversial video

oh ok..yeah, when 911 happened i had a friend say it doesn't directly affect me. he's right in a way, but it's like with this, i know people that have friends or family members involved. and 911 did affect me too, indirectly but it did. like you said if it's not in my backyard it's as real for most. i don't think that.

 

[Andy Capp]

As a person who has a long history and professional training in jazz, and appreciates the heritage/lineage from classical music theory in both the composition and performance of it, I take umbrage to this phrase.

As someone who has worked more than once, and in some cases dozens of times, at eight national (government) labs, a NASA facility, and an Air Force facility over an eleven-year career, I prefer the idiom "good enough for government work."

I love music, so sure thing. As long as the final result is that I'm right it's all good.

 

[original doom]

Any leads yet ?

 

[second sight]

oh ok..yeah, when 911 happened i had a friend say it doesn't directly affect me. he's right in a way, but it's like with this, i know people that have friends or family members involved. and 911 did affect me too, indirectly but it did. like you said if it's not in my backyard it's as real for most. i don't think that.

not arguing with you at all, thou I’m not sure how your friend didn’t notice things like the TSA and mini tsa’s creeping up everywhere....this will likely have the same result...

edit, he could have meant emotionally?

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

It's kind of odd. We want t

[QUOTE="franklinstower, post: 134492995, member: 523827" Religious experience itself is not the problem IMO.

Growing up in a family where half of the people are blue color I can attest to witnessing a certain prideful animosity towards the educated also.

Yeah, no doubt about both of those. I'm not anti-religion. I'm anti-fundamentalism. The point is, Americans know how to put the mental in fundamental.[/QUOTE]


My favorite thing about red state fundamentalists is they think their shitty shanty town is the beacon of America that drives the country forward while denigrating the states and cities that drive the economy forward.

 

[caliboi74lv]

not arguing with you at all, thou I’m not sure how your friend didn’t nothing things like the TSA and mini tsa’s creeping up everywhere....this will likely have the same result...

edit, he could have meant emotionally?

no i know. i was saying filming seemed disrespectful, but people seeing it would be good. Media gives or lets ud see what they want us to. TSA...i work at the airport. the security is a little lax compared to 911. yeah my friend wasn't the biggest of givin a shit about much, no i understand what he was sayin.
I was talking about this today with co workers about the hotel security. how they gonna check every one's bags luggage at the hotels.

 

[Andy Capp]

Wow that's a really watered down definition of terrorism

'To Terrorize' is to inflict psychological damage on a target (target being the population at large typically). Really I think it is better understood as psychological warfare, even though it usually involves killing. But it is not killing for the sake of killing, it is killing in order to produce the psychological effect, which usually is seen as advancing some political agenda.

I would say the sticking point between you and the law is there one doesn't often see "usually" used to define whether an act is a specific crime or not.