Crime Las Vegas Mass Shooting

[chardog]

So guys.... can we not try to fit the shooter into our personal bias of whom we WANT it to be? The literal second post in here immediately assumed it was "black supremacy". Then it was ISIS, then it was back to unknown. Then it was predictably the two sides hoping it was the other side of the aisle doing it.

This person is an extremist by his very action. If he was a right-wing guy, I don't then think that means people with guns are immediate terrible. If it was a left-wing guy, I don't then think leftists are radical insane people.

I think extremists are the worst. I think shooters are just sheer awful people. I think no matter what we just lost 58+ people for no real good reason.

ISIS = fake news at this point, no evidence

 

[Lord_Impaler]

huh? if the lobby/hotel cams (of which there would be dozens) don't have footage of him carrying bags or cases large enough to hold 10+ riffles and ammo then how and when did they get to the room?

Two adidas duffle bags worth of stuff. It wouldn't have been suspicious or out of the ordinary.

 

[Gigaton Punch]

Why are people speculating how he got the stuff into the hotel? Very easily.
I have never, ever, ever had my bags checked at a hotel. Especially something as busy as Mandalay Bay, they don't have time to check for shit.

I so think that this is gonna cause metal detectors and scanners at major hotels now though. Staying at a hotel will be like going to the airport

 

[DragRacer]

A suppressor would do jack shit on a rifle capable of 300-400 yard range . Knock off approximately 20 db

Somebody said this to me in another forum (sorry for cheating on you guys) re supressors:

A silencer will heat up but he had a ton of reload time it would take a few big drums and Probably 600+ continuous rounds with little downtime to cause issue. There are a ton over videos about it on YouTube.

And I'm telling, those concerts are loud. A silencer probably would have made the situation worse...imo. I've shot a few rifles with them nothing larger than .223 but it is A LOT quieter. From 400+ yards and during a loud ass production, Probably would have made things worse.

true or false? Thanks for increasing my knowledge - much appreciated.

 

[FacePunch]

What? how?

*edit: should there not be evidence of him carrying guns?

Ever heard of a suitcase? Do you know how modern rifles work? What exactly is your angle here?

 

[Ruprecht]

Somebody said this to me in another forum (sorry for cheating on you guys) re supressors:

A silencer will heat up but he had a ton of reload time it would take a few big drums and Probably 600+ continuous rounds with little downtime to cause issue. There are a ton over videos about it on YouTube.

And I'm telling, those concerts are loud. A silencer probably would have made the situation worse...imo. I've shot a few rifles with them nothing larger than .223 but it is A LOT quieter. From 400+ yards and during a loud ass production, Probably would have made things worse.

true or false? Thanks for increasing my knowledge - much appreciated.

Most silencers will get the sound of a supersonic centrefire rifle shot down to between 130-140 db. That's still pretty loud. Your loudest concert wouldn't be 130db.

 

[KOQ24]

They show the picture of the Mandalay Bay and there seems to be 2 broken windows?
Were they part of the same Room?

 

[Stoic1]

Somebody said this to me in another forum (sorry for cheating on you guys) re supressors:

A silencer will heat up but he had a ton of reload time it would take a few big drums and Probably 600+ continuous rounds with little downtime to cause issue. There are a ton over videos about it on YouTube.

And I'm telling, those concerts are loud. A silencer probably would have made the situation worse...imo. I've shot a few rifles with them nothing larger than .223 but it is A LOT quieter. From 400+ yards and during a loud ass production, Probably would have made things worse.

true or false? Thanks for increasing my knowledge - much appreciated.

False.

Silencers/suppressor do very little to supersonic ammo. It is not like the movies. You still need hearing protection when firing .223 through a suppressor.

 

[badascan]

Two adidas duffle bags worth of stuff. It wouldn't have been suspicious or out of the ordinary.

Ok. I'm simply saying lets see the footage... 10+ weapons and 1000+ rounds of ammunition wouldn't be light either. those two adidas duffle bags would appear fairly heavy

 

[AOM]

What? how?

*edit: should there not be evidence of him carrying guns?

he mostly had all of his weapons packed and concealed...what is so hard to not understand this...

 

[chardog]

Why are people speculating how he got the stuff into the hotel? Very easily.
I have never, ever, ever had my bags checked at a hotel. Especially something as busy as Mandalay Bay, they don't have time to check for shit.

that's because many are speculating that he brought in a really big gun.

of course, he could have had really big luggage too, not very common though.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I so think that this is gonna cause metal detectors and scanners at major hotels now though. Staying at a hotel will be like going to the airport

all big hotels in russia have them for years. and there's usually a guy in police uniform next to them. yeah they look bored cause of course nothing happens but it's there.

 

[Lord_Impaler]

Ok. I'm simply saying lets see the footage... 10+ weapons and 1000+ rounds of ammunition wouldn't be light either. those two adidas duffle bags would appear fairly heavy

That's true, I just wouldn't think it would be particularly note worthy to staff. But ya, lets see the lobby footage, that would definitely be interesting.

 

[KOQ24]

What? how?

*edit: should there not be evidence of him carrying guns?

you can disassemble guns and fit them in any bag/suitcase

 

[*Z*]

I've never heard of the singer/know nothing about the Country Music scene.. other than obvious stereotypes, was the guy on stage a known or prominent Trump supporter?

No he's not. He didn't even vote and won't say who he would have voted for.

 

[klnOmega]

Why the fuck is Hillary even talking about suppressors. How does adding a stupid hypothetical to the situation somehow supposedly strengthen her position?

Its would be like Trump tweeting after the Nice attack "Imagine if the truck was twice as large and had spikes on the front like in Mad Max!? Many more would have died"

 

[FacePunch]

They show the picture of the Mandalay Bay and there seems to be 2 broken windows?
Were they part of the same Room?

Probably

 

[gtm3]

Ok. I'm simply saying lets see the footage... 10+ weapons and 1000+ rounds of ammunition wouldn't be light either. those two adidas duffle bags would appear fairly heavy

You have zero point.

I stay in hotels 200-250 nights a year. I could bring in 10 large suitcases and nothing bad would happen. If anything, the bellboy would just get a larger tip.

If a housekeeper were to go into any of my suitcases that would be an immediately firable offense.

 

[DragRacer]

Exactly. And he had all weekend to get them up

he mostly had all of his weapons packed and concealed...what is so hard to not understand this...

 

[Ol'Ironhead]

You literally just made a sweeping generalization with your snide remark about muslims immigration in Europe. Try to keep up.

What are you trying to Say? Mass muslim immigration has fucked up western Europe pretty bad in a short amount of time, and it's too late to fix it. That's what happens when you have brainless people in power in places like sweden, Germany and France. This has nothing to do with this post but facts are facts. Get over it