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Harris ran on border strength, shied away from "trans issues"...and refused to talk about being black. And rightists here have chirped about how she got shellacked in the election (gross exaggeration). Now unless you're suggesting that she lost BECAUSE she is a black woman, andrhe Larry needs a DEI straight white guy to deliver the message, then suggesting moderafeness is quite obviously a loser.
Lulz.

If you thought people were gonna buy that she changed every single one of her hard left political stances in four years, you're a fool. Yes, the campaign was an absolute flip floppy shit show. It doesn't change who she actually is. You really think people were gonna trust her to take care of the border, because she all of a sudden pretended to care about it on the campaign trail? LOL.

She lost because she was a phony empty suit and a remnant of the disastrous Biden administration. An administration that leaned hard into woke identity politics, that saw crime rise, illegal immigration skyrocket, and men being allowed to invade women's spaces. This isn't difficult. By all means though, keep thinking it's because they didn't go woke enough. That's the ticket! AOC 2028 baby! Make it happen...and then see what happens.
 
Also: maybe try caring about and prioritizing the national treasures that are our public lands when you're actually holding political power? People are quick to freak the fuck out over suggestive Republican policy on this (and it's pure shit to be certain) but did nothing to bolster and protect them when they were in the same position during the first two years of the Biden-Harris Admin. In fact, the most significant conservation legislation of the last 50 years was signed into law by Donald J. Trump, FFS. Dude.
 
The exact opposite. They need to handle immigration better but not defame immigrants, focus and the positives while being humane, securing the border and streamlining citizenship. Kamala ran anything but a hard left campaign, in fact she sounded like a Republican toward the end. If people want Republicans, they'll just vote for actual Republicans.

DEI, immigrants, and trans stuff is a boogie man to point blame at because the GOP has nothing real to run on like the Democrats, this is classic conservative playbook stuff. The Democrats only very vocally focus on identity because that's their only playbook as they won't adapt a popular Bernie style approach due to their donors. Bernie is "woke" but extremely popular because he speaks to people's material needs, he doesn't virtue signal like Democrats because he has a real belief structure.

The Bill Clinton era, 3rd way Democrat era is over and it's not coming back, continuing to be economically rightwing is killing the Democrats. They must move left economically and many leftwing initiatives like UHC are popular across the board. So far, they're just openly continuing to rely on the GOP fucking things up so bad that they can run on a platform of not shitting in people's mouths and win, AKA a very low bar. They get in for a few years, people's materially needs continue sliding but slower than when Republicans are in power and maybe there's a reach around or two, people get pissed, vote for someone new, that person does fuck all or makes things worse, rinse, wash, repeat. The rich get richer.

I see people disagree with this post and I can't figure out why. If Dems had actual substance and were the true alternative party why would they have someone like Hakeem Jefferies or Gerry Connolly?
 
Ruin people for supporting Trump? Good plan oh compassionate ones lol

Personally I would extend an olive branch to centrists and adopt their policies that are popular, but I'm sure your plan will be good too 👍
Let them self destruct. They have no real power anymore. Most of the non pussy men have already left the party. 😆
 
The original article is behind a paywall so I'll post another as I don't expect everyone to watch a video.

James Carville's strategy; "roll over and play dead". That is a direct quote.



TLDW;

-As MLK said, it's always the right time to do the right thing

-Communicate what's going on, offer an alternative vision, and execute

-Endless lawsuits

-Bodies in the streets; they need to be worried about us

-Call congress

-Go after the people down the chain of command from Elon and Trump who aren't as insulated. Ruin them

-Human chain around government buildings

-Every staff meeting should be saying Elon should get no more money from the government, request the money given back with interest

-Boycott businesses, which is already happening. Tank Elon's businesses

-Use every legislative tool imaginable; filibuster everything possible; run ads in purple districts exposing votes and agendas, apply pressure so they're more scared of the resistance than MAGA; they don't have a big lead in the house, chip away at their people

-Make it clear to the American people what their agenda is like Bernie, describe the real problems and communicate that trans people and immigrants aren't the real enemy

-Give people a vision, name policies and support them like Medicare 4 All

-Ground is fertile for grass roots takeover, Dem base is fired up and pissed at the media and lack of fight from their politicians

-Dems might win going forward anyway just because of how bad this administration is fucking things up


I also liked this article.



Some segments:

[...]

In today’s New York Times, the former Bill Clinton strategist offers the Democratic Party some bizarre advice. He suggests that Democrats should “roll over and play dead” while President Elon Musk and his sidekick, Donald Trump, dismantle the United States government.

[...]

Carville’s proposed strategy is the hallmark of flawed Enlightenment Reason thinking—the idea that people will rationally decide that Republicans are incompetent if Democrats sit on their hands and do nothing. He suggests that a Democratic surrender will “Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight, and make the American people miss us.” But if things worked according to this logic, we wouldn't have a twice-impeached convicted felon as president.

This kind of thinking also exposes a systemic problem with many Democratic strategists: They are economic elites who can afford to see politics as mere sport. They are detached from the reality of working-class and vulnerable Americans who will be the first to feel the pain caused by the dismantling of the public good. When you're a multimillionaire consultant, economic suffering is apparently just theoretical.

[...]

His analysis misses the fact that effective opposition isn’t obstruction for obstruction’s sake. It’s about articulating a clear alternative vision while highlighting the real-world consequences of harmful policies. Democratic leaders must become more effective communicators, not silent observers of the nation’s destruction. Their role in shaping public opinion is crucial. They must actively inspire hope and offer a clear path forward, especially in this age of algorithm warfare and weaponized disinformation.

[...]

This is where cognitive framing becomes crucial. If Democrats “roll over,” they become enablers of the Republican Party and send the message that all hope is lost.

[...]

Democrats must leave Carville in the past where he belongs and instead mount a fierce, principled, strategic opposition that offers Americans a clear alternative: democracy over authoritarianism, shared prosperity over oligarchy, and constitutional governance over unchecked power. The stakes couldn’t be higher, and silence isn’t a strategy—it’s surrender.


What are some ideas for what the Democrats should do going forward?

One idea: do the exact opposite of what was done in the last 5 years. Or another better idea yet: just disappear.
 
His analysis misses the fact that effective opposition isn’t obstruction for obstruction’s sake. It’s about articulating a clear alternative vision while highlighting the real-world consequences of harmful policies.
Democratic leaders must become more effective communicators, not silent observers of the nation’s destruction. Their role in shaping public opinion is crucial. They must actively inspire hope and offer a clear path forward, especially in this age of algorithm warfare and weaponized disinformation.
This. Basically we need more Bernies. Maybe a few Luigis too (kidding).
 
One idea: do the exact opposite of what was done in the last 5 years. Or another better idea yet: just disappear.
So basically Bernie/Ilhan Omar/etc. Move away from corporate money, stop being Diet Republicans and go social democratic, got it. Good idea.
 
So basically Bernie/Ilhan Omar/etc. Move away from corporate money, stop being Diet Republicans and go social democratic, got it. Good idea.
Yes but real social democratic, where earning inequalties are the battle ground as opposed to that travesty of social justice where everything is based on colour or identity and guilt.
 
Ruin people for supporting Trump? Good plan oh compassionate ones lol

Personally I would extend an olive branch to centrists and adopt their policies that are popular, but I'm sure your plan will be good too 👍
- Pretty selfish to ruin a person livinghood for suporting another president.
 
I mean letting Republicans bury themselves till midterms is actually the correct strategy. It's working pretty well and it's only been a month.
Gentle reminder that Democrat support is around 29% and there seems to be a civil war going in the party. The Democrats actually doing shit are being lauded and Carville hasn't been a part of a successful presidential election in decades. There is a Constitutional crisis going on and your actual advice is to do nothing.

You are a smart guy but this is one of the worst takes in sherdog history.
 
Gentle reminder that Democrat support is around 29% and there seems to be a civil war going in the party. The Democrats actually doing shit are being lauded and Carville hasn't been a part of a successful presidential election in decades. There is a Constitutional crisis going on and your actual advice is to do nothing.

You are a smart guy but this is one of the worst takes in sherdog history.

I disagree with you, man.

Aside from getting their shit together and finding some level of unity, the best option for the Dems in these times is silence.

Do nothing, say nothing, give nobody any ammo to hate you, and just let the Republicans incinerate themselves.

I know the GOP seems like a homogeneous blob, but the fault lines are there even if there are no legit chasms in the party at the moment. They're going to end up in a civil war of their own once Trump is gone through either death or constitution, even if the right will always be partly unified by disdain for others.

I honestly don't think they'll have anything to offer after Trump that will represent a big ticket.
 
James Carville just needs to fuck off and die at this point, but until he does, any public statement he makes needs to be aired with a disclaimer that he's a paid advisor to Palantir Technologies (ergo, an associate of Peter Thiel), so any "advice" he has for Democrats should be summarily dismissed.
 
How about just support your president?

Or just do what we did for 8 years of Obama and 4 years of Biden - just shake your head and keep moving on with life.

Realize that more than half of America voted for Trump. Trying to sabotage everything, everywhere, all the time is going to get blowback.
 
I disagree with you, man.

Aside from getting their shit together and finding some level of unity, the best option for the Dems in these times is silence.

Do nothing, say nothing, give nobody any ammo to hate you, and just let the Republicans incinerate themselves.

I know the GOP seems like a homogeneous blob, but the fault lines are there even if there are no legit chasms in the party at the moment. They're going to end up in a civil war of their own once Trump is gone through either death or constitution, even if the right will always be partly unified by disdain for others.

I honestly don't think they'll have anything to offer after Trump that will represent a big ticket.
I couldn't disagree more vehemently. Milquetoast politics got us here and the poll numbers don't reflect the silence strategy. The approval rating for Democrats as a party from their constituents is dog shit, 29% if memory serves. If the Dems stay silent and don't do anything we're fucked, Chuck Schumer already fucked the entire country. The courts are holding the line.

A normie Dem might win presidency in 2028 as long as elections remain a thing just because Trump is THAT bad but any Democrat not doing shit is failing on a moral and political level. You do NOT sit idly by while the Constitution is set on fire.
 
I couldn't disagree more vehemently. Milquetoast politics got us here and the poll numbers don't reflect the silence strategy. The approval rating for Democrats as a party from their constituents is dog shit, 29% if memory serves. If the Dems stay silent and don't do anything we're fucked, Chuck Schumer already fucked the entire country. The courts are holding the line.

A normie Dem might win presidency in 2028 as long as elections remain a thing just because Trump is THAT bad but any Democrat not doing shit is failing on a moral and political level. You do NOT sit idly by while the Constitution is set on fire.

Well, I mean, that right there is the answer.

The Democrats shouldn't be leading the disheartening of the right, if they do, they'll just get accused of trying to force/manufacture it.

No, let them sink, man.

Just make sure there's a proposition at the end of it. That's the whole play.

Silence in politics is drastically underrated.
 
Well, I mean, that right there is the answer.

The Democrats shouldn't be leading the disheartening of the right, if they do, they'll just get accused of trying to force/manufacture it.

No, let them sink, man.

Just make sure there's a proposition at the end of it. That's the whole play.

Silence in politics is drastically underrated.
Nah, you're missing the forest for the trees. The Democrats not really standing for anything got us to this point where a sleazy used car salesman could win the presidency. More of the same isn't it and if you have a message worth fighting for, you need to speak up. We are in a Constitutional crisis, people do not want more milquetoast nonsense. This is the absolute worst time to be silent and a few Democrats are picking up on that and the ones doing things and speaking up are being lauded.

Empirically speaking, Bernie and AOC are drawing INSANE crowds doing the opposite of what you're suggesting and support for the Democrats writ large is very, very low. People want fighters right now, you don't put your phone on silent when there's a coup going on.

I will never agree with the take that they shouldn't doing anything and the polling seems to reflect that sentiment. They're literally elected to do things. That is their job.
 
4 pages in and I am disappointed
 
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