Analysis Kyokushin orange belt in need of critique

[Intermission]

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And he's still doing the same shit.
I put him on ignore, highly recommended.

Gossip slut.

 

[Glupert]

Out of everyone there you kept your hands the lowest. I would fix that FIRST. Hands at least under your chin.

Your punch combos are good. Your kicks are always singles. Mix them up. Front kick, 4 punches, then low kick.

The sparring intensity was too low.

Shadow boxing - use more wrist strengthening excercises.

You are sort of there just a little bit more full body integration. Just get stronger overall is my advice.

Can I have a sparribg video of you ?

I respect his video more than any of yours. I thought it looked good within the rule set. Hands are low as head kicks are rare. But a head kick ends fights. Looked good overal.

Am I the only one thinking the sparring intensity was fine ? They started slow but ramped up a bit in the end. And it's only an orange belt test so they don't need to do it 100 man kumite style.

I like kyokushin. Fascinates me. The specific ruleset gives specific stances and flow. And breeds extremely t are the best self to ough fighters when it comes to body shots.

But boy as someone who box a little it is hard seeing people with their head so open to punches like that.

Seems like they were told not to go hard. Work only technical maybe. OP should tell us.

Or Kyokushin is watered down like every other karate system.

Any sport that has full contact competition rules will always remain relevant. Kyokushin is one of those.

It's a low belt grade test, I think light sparring is fine. Just my opinion for what it's worth.

Never seen a hobbyist post hard sparring footage in his kyokushin school. So consider me suspicious

To answer all of you:
On belt tests below the yellow belt level, it's more about composure. Sparring is fairly light during these times, though it increases in intensity as we get tired (we have to "push ourselves" when we get exhausted and it tends to ramp up the pressure).
Yellow belt and higher is where the testing gets more intense. Unlike most martial arts, a yellow belt in Kyokushin is expected to be able to at least give a black belt some trouble during sparring.

On my test, in particular, we were told to go light but with some pressure to keep it realistic. To confound things further, I was very sick during this test. So my intensity and focus was lower than it probably would have been. But the whole point of Kyokushin is to tough things out, not just fighting but everything else in life.

 

[Intermission]

To answer all of you:
On belt tests below the yellow belt level, it's more about composure. Sparring is fairly light during these times, though it increases in intensity as we get tired (we have to "push ourselves" when we get exhausted and it tends to ramp up the pressure).
Yellow belt and higher is where the testing gets more intense. Unlike most martial arts, a yellow belt in Kyokushin is expected to be able to at least give a black belt some trouble during sparring.

On my test, in particular, we were told to go light but with some pressure to keep it realistic. To confound things further, I was very sick during this test. So my intensity and focus was lower than it probably would have been. But the whole point of Kyokushin is to tough things out, not just fighting but everything else in life.

Will you take my first advice? Specific strength training. It will take you to the next level. Something other than what youre doing now. Maybe arm curl some heavyweights. I promise you it will pay dividens.

You can't go passed a certain point without adding new stuff to your training. You cant just kick and punch your way to mastery.

/The truth

 

[Tayski]

Former black belt of Shotokan. Current orange belt of Kyokushin. I need some critique on my technique.





Thanks all!

Just based on the sparring video, some obvious room for improvements:

• You look too much where you strike, like when you're about to throw a low kick you look at your opponent's legs -> it makes it very easy to predict where you're about to strike.
• Your guard is too low, even for Knockdown Karate.
• When you kick, bring your kick back, don't leave it hanging there or you'll eat a low kick counter most times.
• Set-up your kicks, don't just throw single kicks without any other strikes.
• Mix punches and kicks, don't just throw either punches or kicks.
• Use more front kicks (mae geri's) and knees, especially against opponents who are standing squared up in front of you.

 

[Intermission]

Just based on the sparring video, some obvious room for improvements:

• You look too much where you strike, like when you're about to throw a low kick you look at your opponent's legs -> it makes it very easy to predict where you're about to strike.
• Your guard is too low, even for Knockdown Karate.
• When you kick, bring your kick back, don't leave it hanging there or you'll eat a low kick counter most times.
• Set-up your kicks, don't just throw single kicks without any other strikes.
• Mix punches and kicks, don't just throw either punches or kicks.
• Use more front kicks (mae geri's) and knees, especially against opponents who are standing squared up in front of you.

Which kickers did you prefer between Kyokushin and Muay Thai. Or was the overlap so big both stylistically and cross over between practitioners that you dont know where one end and the other begins?

 

[Tayski]

Which kickers did you prefer between Kyokushin and Muay Thai. Or was the overlap so big both stylistically and cross over between practitioners that you dont know where one end and the other begins?

What do you mean by "which kickers" did I prefer?

There are clear differences between Kyokushin style kicks and Muay Thai style kicks by the way.

 

[Intermission]

What do you mean by "which kickers" did I prefer?

There are clear differences between Kyokushin style kicks and Muay Thai style kicks by the way.

You can tell if someone in K-1 throws shin kicks from a Muay Thai visavi Kyokushin background? How can you do that?

 

[Tayski]

You can tell if someone in K-1 throws shin kicks from a Muay Thai visavi Kyokushin background? How can you do that?

Having actually trained both arts for several years, instead of filming myself throwing kicks in the dark in my bedroom.

I've also watched thousands of Kyokushin, Muay Thai and Kickboxing fights through the years. It's very easy to spot a fighter from a Kyokushin background and one from a MT one.

 

[Intermission]

Having actually trained both arts for several years, instead of filming myself throwing kicks in the dark in my bedroom.

I've also watched thousands of Kyokushin, Muay Thai and Kickboxing fights through the years. It's very easy to spot a fighter from a Kyokushin background and one from a MT one.

 

[Tayski]

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What are you sending this picture for? Are you trying to prove something again?
If you actually trained you wouldn't need tips on forums and throwing unimpressing kicks in the dark in your bedroom for sherdog.

 

[Intermission]

What are you sending this picture for? Are you trying to prove something again?
If you actually trained you wouldn't need tips on forums and throwing unimpressing kicks in the dark in your bedroom for sherdog.

Im not interested in a catfight with you. You're welcomed to answer the question technically or not.

 

[Intermission]

If you actually trained you wouldn't need tips on forums

well TS is?

 

[Tayski]

well TS is?

TS posted a video of himself sparring other students though. I have only seen plenty of punches and kicks thrown in the air int he dark in your bedroom from yourself.

 

[Tayski]

Im not interested in a catfight with you. You're welcomed to answer the question technically or not.

What would you like to know exactly? Breakdowns of how Kyokushin kicks are thrown vs Muay Thai kicks have been posted many times and are all over the web too.

The main difference I've noticed while practising those arts is that Kyokushin kicks are thrown to go through the target a lot more than in MT and also have a tiny bit mof chambering before impact, meaning that they tend to generate even more force but you're also more prone to your kick getting caught (which isn't an issue in Kyokushin since you're not allowed to catch kicks in Knockdown rules but is a big issue in Muay Thai where catching legs for counters and throws is quite common in that style). In comparison Muay Thai kicks tend to be faster, straight to target and with less chambering, with also a focus on bringing the leg back quicker right after it lands.

Kyokushin has a much bigger arsenal of kicks overall, especially because the ruleset means you're less likely to get clipped by a punch or elbow or getting your leg caught or being clinched. There are many more spinning kicks, types of heads kicks, inside low kicks, axe kicks etc, while in MT the focus is a lot more on tips and round houses overall without all the fancy kicks and spinning kicks.

Also in Muay Thai you tend to throw kicks while standing on the ball of the foot on the supporting leg, while in Kyokushin they are thrown more flat footed. Low kicks in Kyokushin tend to be thrown in downwards motion by the way rather than like a roundhouse like in Muay Thai.

 

[Intermission]

Also in Muay Thai you tend to throw kicks while standing on the ball of the foot on the supporting leg, while in Kyokushin they are thrown more flat footed.

I did not know that, so the Kyokushin guy will still keep throwing it that way in kickboxing?

 

[Intermission]

TS posted a video of himself sparring other students though. I have only seen plenty of punches and kicks thrown in the air int he dark in your bedroom from yourself.

Which surprises me. It's not allowed to film (anymore) in the school I was in.

 

[Intermission]

The difference Ive noticed between TKD and Karate is that center of gravity is higher in tkd wheras its more a downwards in karate including kyokushin.

However, in TKD you pivot on the ball of your foot (in free formats) just like muay thai so that makes the kick faster because you can pivot quicker.

degrees of rotation in tkd is very much contextual however.

Stability is little bit better in Karate, but greater force/torque potential in TKD and MT since they pivot on ball of the foot

 

[Deaths Head]

Former black belt of Shotokan. Current orange belt of Kyokushin. I need some critique on my technique.





Thanks all!

Your punching to fast work on direct power and technique that’s what your style is the punches in this style is meant for breaks first or hard striking not combinations of how many punches you can throw you want to block and strike at the same time your to offensive with defensive holes and your back foot is possible wrong point it towards your opponent because you’ll have better accuracy and power the punch usually goes in the same direction the toes point this is fighting 101 .

Also that second video of that test ? Not a big fan it’s teaching you how to make every mistake in the book your chins exposed and your just basically playing tag with your hands down with no real simulation of a real fight this is why traditional karate guys get their ass whooped . I know this bc I was in the same style and handed everyone a loss as a white belt , belts are just colors .

A good white belt with foundation of actual fighting could do better bc when you train like that it teaches you all the things not to do . Stick with it but use practical things and train slow direct punches with proper form ,timing beats speed when you have a better fight IQ .

Also why are you a former black belt ? Once you earned or giving a title its yours for life don’t say former the art you trained in is still valid you only can add to it not take it away .

Me and the Frank Duxter at the martial arts hall of fame .

 

[maximus__]

FYI @Intermission is spacetime's most recent account.
And he's still doing the same shit.
I put him on ignore, highly recommended.

Nah man. Him and @Deaths Head are the funniest posters on this forum. We all know neither of them can be taken seriously with the crap they post.

 

[Deaths Head]

Nah man. Him and @Deaths Head are the funniest posters on this forum. We all know neither of them can be taken seriously with the crap they post.

So if you got an invitation to show me why you’d accept right ? I’m a pretty funny guy on here when I want to be why don’t you come and see ? We’ll see just how funny I am in person I’m just a barrel of laughs to get into an altercation with trust me . Lol