Krav Maga

[Niceguy]

I train mma and i went to krav maga place just to see what all the hype was about.
Needless to say I wasnt overly impressed. They dont train hard enough and realistically enough to fully implement the techniques they show.

Honestly a good mma gym which competes in local shows will show you everything they show but with a greater emphasis and more "realistic" training.

I mean if you train muay thai stand-up (as we do in my gym) and can land inside low kicks on trained fighters with ease, dont you think it would be just as easy to land kicks to the groin?

In fact a thai fighter would do this easier as they do this is a "live" sparring sessions. Not coreographed routines.

Honestly the best martial art is mma, but just add all the illegal techniques (biting if need be, headbuts, eye gouges, kicks/knees to the groin) as in competing in mma gets you is supurb condition, with good hand eye coordination, and the toughness to know you can take blows.

Just add some gun and knife defense (not disarms, but defending yourself) and your gtg.

Hell the armies system is bjj based check it out yourself:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-25-150/

 

[Vilo Magee]

I work with a guy from Isreal now named Alvie Swartzmen and he is into Krav Maga and Hagana(sp) and I would rather have him watching my back than any MMA guy or boxer. He is a straight up grill cracking machine he has excellant stanup and good instincts and he is a little dude not over 5'6 and under 150 lbs. He grew up in Isreal in one of the west bank settlement and spent most of his life fighting Palestinians. There is a reason Isreal uses Krav Mage-it works for street fighting maybe it is shitty in US but someone who learns it in Isreal is going to be effective or if you are taught by someone with good credentials you are going to be good. I have seen all types of douche-bag wannabe fighters in the club scene in Las Vegas as bouncers and as customers and I woudl definatly say Alvie is is one of the baddest motherfuckers I have ever seen.

 

[Orsyn]

Some of you guys need to remember that this isn't OT where we insult and tell eachother that they are full of crap.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=44943

All styles are welcome and respected. You can maturely discuss the pros and cons of anything but avoid slamming fighters, styles, and forum members. Instead, focus on helping each other out. That's what this forum should be all about. Basically: Keep it positive.


The guy asked for opinions. State your opinon and if you disagree, then talk about it in a mature fashion.

 

[MrMoyer]

a krav maga guy tried to choke me standing up, i broke his finger

Can you explain more about this situation? Was it an attack? Were yall practicing self defense techniques? Please explain how you broke their finger? and why.

 

[zenshin]

You guys have to understand, the main reason that KM is so watered-down is because of the quality of instruction. You have some MA experiance all one must do is go through a 4 day certification course and your a 2 level instructor = a yellow belt in krav maga.

All must understand is that KM heads Levine and Whitman have absolute no respect in Israel especially for the fact that they are screwing ovr many IDF members. KM is a military system based on military tactics, to have a fat Ron Jeremy look alike who never seen or been in military or let alone been in a fight in his life as head of a system is laughable in Israel or Europe.

If you guys training in KM are happy with your training, keep doing it, dont let me or others here discourage you, we are here xpressing our opinions on the subject, some with little knowlegde and some with a lot of knowlegde on the subject. Just do some research, example is go check this site out read what some people wrote when they tried to interview Levine.

http://www.usadojo.com/take-action/petitions/darren-levine-interview.htm

 

[MrMoyer]

You guys have to understand, the main reason that KM is so watered-down is because of the quality of instruction. You have some MA experiance all one must do is go through a 4 day certification course and your a 2 level instructor = a yellow belt in krav maga.

All must understand is that KM heads Levine and Whitman have absolute no respect in Israel especially for the fact that they are screwing ovr many IDF members. KM is a military system based on military tactics, to have a fat Ron Jeremy look alike who never seen or been in military or let alone been in a fight in his life as head of a system is laughable in Israel or Europe.

If you guys training in KM are happy with your training, keep doing it, dont let me or others here discourage you, we are here xpressing our opinions on the subject, some with little knowlegde and some with a lot of knowlegde on the subject. Just do some research, example is go check this site out read what some people wrote when they tried to interview Levine.

http://www.usadojo.com/take-action/petitions/darren-levine-interview.htm

Dude, you honestly believe that was an interview?

 

[zenshin]

Not that is was an interview, but a lot of valid issues where brought up, questions that many people had and things ask by IDF members. When I talked to to some of the guys I trained with in Irsael they all said the same things that was brought up in the interview. It is not one person askin these questions but more like 100's....

 

[supmaynnn]

i would just take other peoples advice and give myself a head start with boxing/muaythai + BJJ/judo/wrestling

 

[zenshin]

i would just take other peoples advice and give myself a head start with boxing/muaythai + BJJ/judo/wrestling

Best decision you can make lol!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MrMoyer]

i would just take other peoples advice and give myself a head start with boxing/muaythai + BJJ/judo/wrestling

This question goes out to those that feel negatively about KM. Has anyone of yall trained in it and give it a shot? And if so, what is it that you feel is ineffective?

 

[zenshin]

This question goes out to those that feel negatively about KM. Has anyone of yall trained in it and give it a shot? And if so, what is it that you feel is ineffective?

There are so many reasons, I dont know where to begin... 1st. Levine has absolute no fight or military background, not saying you have to be military to teach, but when you advertise a military system as KMAA did you should have some creditibility, I honestly beleive he has not even been in a fight in his life lol.

2nd. your gun disarms are by far the most dangerous I have ever seen, you grab the gun arm then punch in a awkwark position, def. ineffective.

3rd. your knife disarms are very qustionable, I even saw a high kick used to disarm a knife, your knife disarms have to be timed very well in order for it to work ( if they work) dont get me wrong timing is important to any disarm, but t is the lack of control when you try to secure the hand with the weapon that scares me.

4th. A 4 or 5 day certificaton with little prereq. of martial arts experiance is very qestionable to anyone with litle common sense.

5th Levine getting a BB in such a short time and then going to 5th degree BB in less than a 10 year span.

6th The Founders Diploma that is so valued signed by KM Founder written in English when everyone knew Imi spoke no english to begin with.

7th. No respect is given to KMAA ( except for the brainwashed people on your forum) anywhere in the world especially Israel.

8th. Trying to trademark KM all over the world asia, europe, south america, noth america etc.

I can keep going and going, but I am in a rush. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot more KM forum people here to rip me another hole for this post!!!!