International Knife attack in Solingen, Germany. Multiple dead

tastaylvr said:
In essence you guys are not arguing against crime but the people committing crime.

Crime is fine as long as the person committing it is also European…nice logic guys

You guys don’t care if you get killed as long as it’s another white guy killing you lol
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Nope. It’s just one can be prevented with sane immigration policy while the other has nothing to do with immigration policy.

If an ethnic German kills an ethnic German. What dumbfuck liberal government policy(or lack thereof) led to it?

You’re unlikely to find out that German was allowed into Germany unvetted. You’re unlikely to find that he was ordered deported a year ago…but wasn’t.

It’s like here in the states. Black Americans commit an obscene amount of crime. Open borders advocates will claim that immigrants commit less than the native born population.

That is correct…but not because illegal immigrants don’t commit an inordinate amount of crime. It’s just the black American population is really next level in crime that it dwarfs the rest of the native population and the migrant population COMBINED. The drug cartels would have to move their wars north to put a dent in that lead.

But, that’s a different discussion. The culture of inner city violence is an American cross to bear and is not connected to immigration policy. Black Americans are Americans and belong here. Illegal Salvadoran rapist murderer..does not.

Psycho ethnic German as outrageous as their crime may be is a German cross to bear and has nothing to do with any immigration debate. Dipshit Syrian rapist..is not
 
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Belaya Smert said:
Usually the lack of available resources is a factor in dispute. This should have been alleviated when they reside in a developed country.



I consider this more of a failure of dominant culture and a result of reduced aspirations in the group. Also likely a genetic legacy of herder culture or epigenetics from a recent ancestoral difficult life where policing is less available

Gobbledygook ^
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It's usually disparity in income that predicts pretty well where crime will occur. This isn't resolved by residing in a developed country, it's resolved by equality of opportunity being provided.

Sorry I didn't explain myself well enough. What is it about the following that you don't understand?

"I consider this more of a failure of dominant culture and a result of reduced aspirations in the group. Also likely a genetic legacy of herder culture or epigenetics from a recent ancestoral difficult life where policing is less available"
 
I Am Legion said:
1. Stop immigration. The cup is full. Hold the countries where these folks are coming from accountable. No more aid or assistance until they control it. Asylum is asylum, not mass immigration so a huge group can come in and take all the resources. Send the single males BACK.
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I don't think it's that easy to hold places like Afghanistan accountable lol, they'd just tell us to get fucked.
 
Siver! said:
Yeah, big cities have higher crime rates. Big cities with higher crime rates almost always have greater poverty that has been preexisting.

Minorities are generally poorer.

Places like Blackpool and Redcar are both very deprived, and very 'white'. Both have very high crime rates.

Poverty and ethnicity are both tied at the hip, but poverty is a serious driver of crime, more than melatonin or holy books, and poverty will bring about crime more reliably than demographics.
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Totally outdated and blindfolded view, with a touch of similarly outdated marxism.

People aren't blank units that will react the same placed in the same situations, never were, never will.

Euro and asian immigrants from poor backgrounds, living in similar neighborhoods never created massive rise of criminal activity, instaured no-go zones, creeping shariah laws or attacked police or firemen.

Social and economics status play a role in human behavior, but culture, ethnicity and religion obviously does as well.

You think you are the clever one with your "it's a class problem", but most of the people you argue with are aware of this part of the equation, it's just that they also aknowledge the other, and arguably more pertinant one.

You are (willfully ?) half blind to the disaster unfolding in real time in Europe. It is far from being a primarly economic or social one.
 
Actually fuck it, I'm not going to bother.

"This is what it's like where you live. I know because someone told me AND I read about it."

This is the most ignorant and redundant position you can take. And if someone thinks it's an intelligent take, you will never convince them of their stupidity. So yeah don't bother @AngryWeasel , you will get nowhere, I will get nowhere, I will know for sure you are talking shit, and you will just angry about it.
 
Siver! said:
Actually fuck it, I'm not going to bother.

"This is what it's like where you live. I know because someone told me AND I read about it."

This is the most ignorant and redundant position you can take. And if someone thinks it's an intelligent take, you will never convince them of their stupidity. So yeah don't bother @AngryWeasel , you will get nowhere, I will get nowhere, I will know for sure you are talking shit, and you will just angry about it.
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Having empiric experience on top of reading books and watching docs, what an awful way to get knowledge, indeed.

Btw, when I (rarely) make those kinds of long coms I dont really try to have a convo with you, it's just that your comment made me think, and I lay my thoughts for others to read.

Not angry one bit, and not a great loss either, you are pretty bland and uninteresting. Have a good one
 
AngryWeasel said:
Having empiric experience on top of reading books and watching docs, what an awful way to get knowledge, indeed.

Btw, when I (rarely) make those kinds of long coms I dont really try to have a convo with you, it's just that your comment made me think, and I lay my thoughts for others to read.

Not angry one bit. Have a good one
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Fair enough. I read your posts and take into account your thoughts and opinions, whether I accept them in whole or in part.
 
Just last week a video surfaced of a caveman waving a machete out of the window of a new-build flat in Aberdeen. A quick Google search shows that the average new-build Aberdeen flat ranges from £170,000 to £300,000+.

This is being repeated all over Europe. Ireland, in particular, is leading the charge of housing cavemen in top of the range, new-build apartments.

Stop pretending these people land in Europe and are flung into poverty. They are better off than the majority of whatever country they are in.

They act the way they do because that's the way it is in whatever hellhole they're from.
 
Croo67 said:
Just last week a video surfaced of a caveman waving a machete out of the window of a new-build flat in Aberdeen. A quick Google search shows that the average new-build Aberdeen flat ranges from £170,000 to £300,000+.

This is being repeated all over Europe. Ireland, in particular, is leading the charge of housing cavemen in top of the range, new-build apartments.

Stop pretending these people land in Europe and are flung into poverty. They are better off than the majority of whatever country they are in.

They act the way they do because that's the way it is in whatever hellhole they're from.
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Just because someone is put in a nice flat doesn't stop them being poor lol, they're not allowed to sell it.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Just because someone is put in a nice flat doesn't stop them being poor lol, they're not allowed to sell it.
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They have everyone else's most expensive outgoing covered.

That's why you see them roaming the high streets all day smoking, drinking, and shopping. They can afford it.
 
Croo67 said:
They have everyone else's most expensive outgoing covered.

That's why you see them roaming the high streets all day smoking, drinking, and shopping. They can afford it.
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Asylum seekers aren't living the life of Riley dude. A lot of them might feel they are compared to life at home but they're on very limited money. The whole idea that they're roaming around in free cars etc makes any genuine immigration concerns look stupid.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Asylum seekers aren't living the life of Riley dude. A lot of them might feel they are compared to life at home but they're on very limited money. The whole idea that they're roaming around in free cars etc makes any genuine immigration concerns look stupid.
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Who said cars?

They get free accommodation, that’s undeniable. So already they have everyone else’s biggest expense covered.
 
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