International Knife attack in Solingen, Germany. Multiple dead

[Halifax]

The British Empire was built on colonization, taking resources from other lands, slavery and trading and held sway over 23% of the world population at the time. But yeah it wasn't built with foreigners at all.

Immigration started in Great Britain way before the British Empire by the way:

Historical immigration to Great Britain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You just described.....well, every country or empire.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The Normans actually conquered the UK and were violent oppressive racists who treated the Anglo Saxon population terribly.

Old Longshanks view of the Jews seems more inline with your own of immigrants.

Robert de Bruce(the clue is in the name)was of Norman ancestry. He was also the man who won the Scottish Wars of Independence. And is revered to this day as Scotland's greatest King, in spite of Scotland being one of the Celtic Nations.

Not many people in Europe were overly fond of the Jews, sadly.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

The British Empire was built on colonization, taking resources from other lands, slavery and trading and held sway over 23% of the world population at the time. But yeah it wasn't built with foreigners at all.

Immigration started in Great Britain way before the British Empire by the way:

Historical immigration to Great Britain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The same can be said about the Muslim Arabs:

Arab slave trade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You need to really stop posting.

 

[Busgosu]

The crusades drove Islam from European countries.

Nah, not really. Other than maybe the smaller scale "crusades" vs the ottoman empire expansion, this is not entirely true. In fact, the overwhelming majority of crusades against Islam were on holy land. The ones in Europe were sometimes just territorial conflicts, vs slavs or even vs other christians. The kingdoms that later turned into Spain (Asturias, Aragon, Leon, Castilla, Navarra...), portugal and the franks defeated and drove the islamic invasion off of Europe.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Nah, not really. Other than maybe the smaller scale "crusades" vs the ottoman empire expansion, this is not entirely true. In fact, the overwhelming majority of crusades against Islam were on holy land. The ones in Europe were sometimes just territorial conflicts, vs slavs or even vs other christians. The kingdoms that later turned into Spain (Asturias, Aragon, Leon, both Castillas, Navarra...), portugal and the franks defeated and drove the islamic invasion off of Europe.

The Reconquista.

 

[Satur9]

All the time and effort that much of Europe put in to becoming more secular only to import droves of mindless religious fanatics who hate them. You can’t make this shit up.

 

[Halifax]

Nah, not really. Other than maybe the smaller scale "crusades" vs the ottoman empire expansion, this is not entirely true. In fact, the overwhelming majority of crusades against Islam were on holy land. The ones in Europe were sometimes just territorial conflicts, vs slavs or even vs other christians. The kingdoms that later turned into Spain and the franks defeated and drove the islamic invasion off Europe.

The crusades were, by large, a response and check on Islamic aggression and expansion
Christians didn't give a fuck about the holy land until Islam invaded Sicily

 

[Busgosu]

The Reconquista.

 

[Busgosu]

The crusades were, by large, a response and check on Islamic aggression and expansion
Christians didn't give a fuck about the holy land until Islam invaded Sicily

by the time the muslims invaded Sicily they had already been for well over a hundred years conquering southern Europe

 

[Belaya Smert]

There will always be cases where an attack was prevented by someone carrying a gun, the reality is more guns in circulation = more gun homicides and more homicides in general as well as more mass shootings, as you can see in the US and even countries like Australia before the implemented the ban on guns.

Now imagine if that guy who committed the knife attack in Germany had bought a gun instead for the attack? We probably would be talking about a lot more than 3 dead people.

By the way, you do have considerably more homicides by firearms. More than 4 by 100,000 inhabitants while in countries like Germany it's 0.065.

Also: "2021
A little above 80% of all murders (20,958 out of 26,031) in the United States in 2021 involved a firearm— the highest percentage since at least 1968, the earliest year for which the CDC has online records."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

The best argument you have is that you love guns. Don't try to tell me guns would have saved those 3 people who got killed by knife. The death toll would probably have been a lot higher if guns were allowed in Germany, just look at the results of your mass shootings in the US. And by the way, most of those mass shooters don't get killed by someone carrying a gun until they've already killed several people.

I have 13 guns. None of which have started a mass casualty event in over 25 years of onwership. Now do the disproven Clinton Era JAMA statistics for a gun in the house exponentially increases the likelihood of death for both occupant and attacker. Spoiler alert (they intentionally cherry picked 14 cases and used that as the sample size; specifically because 8 of those cases involved a homicide)
They also included an assailant bringing a gun into a home as increasing the likelihood of a weapon in the home killing the home owner

***US crime Statistics 2024
The murder rate fell by 26.4%, reported rapes decreased by 25.7%, robberies fell by 17.8%, aggravated assault fell by 12.5%, and the overall violent crime rate went down by 15.2%, the statistics show.

Continue to ignore the right of self protection.
Maintain your victim status in perpetuity.
I won’t be joining you.
People commit these crimes not because they could be punished its the certainty of punishment that stops them.

Criminals have what is called a threat determination before an crime or attack. I noticed all these fucking cowards aren’t stabbing able bodied men. You may have also.

 

[Loiosh]

Most nations we colonised were better of for it.

That's what Stefan Molyneux says all the time, I'm guessing you're a huge fan of his.

 

[White Whale]

The left tends to be atheists that love Islam and hate Christianity.

 

[KnightTemplar]

That's what Stefan Molyneux says all the time, I'm guessing you're a huge fan of his.

 

[AngryWeasel]

Concerning the "immigration constructed -insert euro country name" tired argument : it's false.

It comes from the 80's, when the left got disinterested in the euro working classes for both ideological and electoral reasons and started peddling the diversity stuff in wich we are now drowning in.

The european countries are centuries or millenia old and didn't wait for mena/black migrants of those last 50 years to become intellectual, scientific, industrial and artistic powerhouses.

Neither did they wait to colonize the world, in fact it's those attributes that allowed them to do that. The colonial ressources sur did help after, but for a massive chunk they had to be discovered or developped by colons, people living in huts rarely had a flourishing industry ripe to be taken.

Back to migrations, what we are seeing actually is unprecented in europe history - unless you go back to prehistorical times. The anglo and normans invasion mentionned above have nothing to do with millions of people from other continents migrating with the approval of the local rulers, it was thousands of the elite of a neighboring country defeating the local elites in war, taking their place and quickly assimilating.

European population had been a stable mix of European Hunter-Gatherers, Anatolian Farmers and "Indo-Europeans" for millenias, until the abrupt change of those last decades. So unless someone wants to argue that people here since millenias are somewhat migrants - wich would be fucking retarded - no, Europe wasn't constructed by migrants in any way, shape or form.

Europe was constructed by europeans.

 

[Tayski]

I have 13 guns. None of which have started a mass casualty event in over 25 years of onwership. Now do the disproven Clinton Era JAMA statistics for a gun in the house exponentially increases the likelihood of death for both occupant and attacker. Spoiler alert (they intentionally cherry picked 14 cases and used that as the sample size; specifically because 8 of those cases involved a homicide)
They also included an assailant bringing a gun into a home as increasing the likelihood of a weapon in the home killing the home owner

***US crime Statistics 2024
The murder rate fell by 26.4%, reported rapes decreased by 25.7%, robberies fell by 17.8%, aggravated assault fell by 12.5%, and the overall violent crime rate went down by 15.2%, the statistics show.

Continue to ignore the right of self protection.
Maintain your victim status in perpetuity.
I won’t be joining you.
People commit these crimes not because they could be punished its the certainty of punishment that stops them.

Criminals have what is called a threat determination before an crime or attack. I noticed all these fucking cowards aren’t stabbing able bodied men. You may have also.

Your 13 guns wouldn't have stopped that guy killing people in Germany. He would probably have killed a lot more with a gun than a knife before you were even able to get your gun out to shoot him.

 

[Tayski]

The same can be said about the Muslim Arabs:

Arab slave trade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You need to really stop posting.

Some dude tried to counter argue that it hasn't built on it, so when I provide data to suggest it was indeed built on it then you go "but so did every country". just lol

You guys should try harder. What's funny is that I'm not even for mass immigration in Europe. But people here make some weak points and fake claims.

 

[Tayski]

I love how "ban Muslims, stop immigration and legalize guns" seems to be the solution to most people on here to fix the problem with mass murders in Europe.

How has that worked out for America?

 

[TheGreatA]

They are winning, though.

Pretty much every European government and media outlet is pandering to them and they're only getting more and more empowered.

Even if they managed to somehow attain power, they'd run the country to the ground within months (see ISIS). So whatever victory they had would be temporary at best.

The jihadists are simply too stupid and are looking forward more to the afterlife rather than the present.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Russia, China, Iran and the wider middle east. Israel are clearly pushing for a big war and to pull the US into it.
People in other countries and time periods never thought war would come to them until it came. Don't be naïve to the significance of events unfolding in front of us.

Lol and you think other people are naive. Israel isn't orchestrating shit. America uses Israel as their attack dog in the middle east to keep the region destabilized. Israel isn't running shit. They are the pawns.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

I love how "ban Muslims, stop immigration and legalize guns" seems to be the solution to most people on here to fix the problem with mass murders in Europe.

How has that worked out for America?

When did America stop immigration?

You're thinking of Poland who banned Islamic immigration and it worked out beautifully for them.