Media Khamzat Chimaev transforms into fat Santa Claus

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Muslims love Jesus? Please elaborate. Genuinely curiously.

If you say you are a muslim and you don't love Jesus, than you are not a muslim. likewise Moses and Abraham.
Note: In Islam Jesus is a mighty prophet of God who called to the worship of one God, and he is not the son of God but a messenger from God to the lost sheep of Israel sons of Jacob.
 
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That's gibberish. Because Yahweh condones rape and slavery in the Old Testament, I have to accept rape and slavery as moral?

Of course we should judge from an enlightened perspective. Secular values are objective better. The secular world is objectively better.

Great point. If you accept the old testament as the word of God then you have those problems but first you have to see if those books can be attributed to Moses and his God.
 
Christmas is about the celebration of the birth of the son of God as Christians believe, thus celebrating it means you accept that. thus you have attributed to God almighty a son.
Khamzat can claim ignorance but he has fell in a sin according to islam.
STFU loser your avatar is evil kill people sin, Santa Claus is good guy and make people happy. Neither God or Jesus Christ will not be against that you Musliman hater cry baby
 
Not gonna lie, this irked me and to be frank i am disappointed in Khamzat. Christians don't celebrate Muslim holidays, so why should Muslims celebrate theirs? Yesterday, another big athlete, soccer player Mo Salah, was seeb under a Xmas tree with his family unpacking gifts. I immediately unfollowed him

Khabib would never do this. He's not a sell out, nor is Islam.

This is why you shouldn't look at them as nothing more than fighters and shit. Otherwise they will disappoint you because they can easily get corrupted. Khabib being the exception because he is an intellectual. He is doing his PHD now. I don't think Khamzat even finished school.
 
He just seems like not a fanatic Muslim, and a likable guy.
It's actually made me like him more.

His type is the ones you don't where they are going, they are not grounded like khabib or a sellout like Ali. He can become an extremist or heretic because he has no fim ground to stand on. Its his type that extremist prey on.
 
This is why you shouldn't look at them as nothing more than fighters and shit. Otherwise they will disappoint you because they can easily get corrupted. Khabib being the exception because he is an intellectual. He is doing his PHD now. I don't think Khamzat even finished school.
How would you explain the higher IQ among the atheists?
 
The Soviets, Maoists and Nazis were also secular. I dont think you can objectively say "secularism is objectively better" because it is also responsible for mass violence and persecution.

There's secularism of the American tradition (on paper) that means 'freedom of religion', then there's secularism of the French tradition which is more 'suppression of religion'. That's what they did following the French Revolution, they went on a Reign of Terror and actively killed Catholic clergy and invented their own religion and calendar, which eventually fell away and Napoleon came to power.

The French Revolution was a giant failure; not only did they they replace one Absolute monarchy with another Absolute monarchy, but after Napoleon's house fell they literally brought back the the old monarchy to replace it. The French Revolution is what gave birth to the Fascist and Communist lines of thought. Communism itself being named after the Paris Commune, and Fascism being born out of the right-wing current of Syndicalism.

Secularism, Communism, Socialism, Democracy, Liberalism are all buzzwords with no clear meaning or consistency.

The only thing I respect is Republicanism, specifically Constitutional Republicanism, because it has some clear meaning behind it. And as long as that Constitution is well-thought out and applicable, you can function properly and relatively-fairly whether that's the U.S. or Iran. Focus on the temporary restoration of their monarchy kind of misses the long-view point that the Revolution changed the entire world over the course of two centuries.

The reason why Europe isn't a complete warzone or shithole like its been for most of history is not because they're "liberal democracies" like people keep parroting but because they have a constitution that allows and restricts certain freedoms. Otherwise democracy only leads to one of two things demagoguery** or gynocracy. Still, there are holes in the Western system, which is why its running towards gynocracy and the air of domestic demagoguery is also in the air (Frankly, foreign-policy based demagoguery is still in full-swing). I give it about a century before this Democratic delusion collapses. The philosophers of Greek antiquity up until the US founding fathers wrote extensively against the problems of "democracy" or mob rule.

**See several states in post-partition Africa, the Balkans, South Asia and Myanmar. Democracy only enabled ethnic tribalism and demagoguery.
Bit of a contradiction to bag on the French Revolution and then say the only thing you respect is constitutional republicanism... IMHO. US and France are the reasons that form of government is as common as it is right now. Kind of misses the point to focus on the temporary restoration of the monarchy ages ago when the story of the last two centuries is how the Revolution changed the entire world.
 
Not gonna lie, this irked me and to be frank i am dissapointed in Khamzat. Christians don't celebrate Muslim holidays, so why should Muslims celebrate theirs? Yesterday, another big athlete, soccer player Mo Salah, was seeb under a Xmas tree with his family unpacking gifts. I immediately unfollowed him

Khabib would never do this. He's not a sell out, nor is Islam.
Khamzat doesn't celebrate Christmas, he just dressed up as Santa for the kids. He said it in his stories: "i dressed as santa to make the kids happy", he was visiting his friends family.
 
His type is the ones you don't where they are going, they are not grounded like khabib or a sellout like Ali. He can become an extremist or heretic because he has no fim ground to stand on. Its his type that extremist prey on.
It's actually not true as those extremist usually very fanatic. But ofcaurse he can be anything, even the next Hitler or whatever, but that can be anyone.
So, by writing: "seems like not fanatic likable guy" the emphasis on "seems".
 
Khamzat doesn't celebrate Christmas, he just dressed up as Santa for the kids. He said it in his stories: "i dressed as santa to make the kids happy", he was visiting his friends family.

Lets saw his head off.
 
Yea we love them all brah. All prophets and messengers. Quran was the last holy book which was revealed to Mohammad pbuh. So it’s inclusive of all the prophets. The issue with the Torah and Bible is they are no longer in their original form and applied to the people of those times until a new messenger came along. It’s kinda like Apple software updates. You can’t use the 2020 AppStore on an iPod4 anymore. Nothing works. So if you want to be a person of the books Islam is your only answer as annoying as Khabib nuthuggers are. I’m objective I call out these idiots who live vicariously through a fighters religious beliefs everyday. But this is still fact.

the problem with people analyzing religion is they analyze it from a 2020 stand point and without any appropriate context. Sure, a lot of things in the current global culture are going to deem religious teachings bad. That does not in any way prove that those teachings are false. You get what I mean? Like just because the culture of the day deems certain teachings immoral that doesn’t mean those teachings aren’t present. Like your dad could teach you something and you could disagree with him but that doesn’t prove he’s necessarily wrong or that he didn’t tell you that.

when you view religion in that light you realize most of the arguments against it aren’t based on whether it’s true or not but how immoral it seems to a 2020 college student. But there’s many ways to see an issue. And the only thing I can conclude and I shouldn’t say this but God seems like a bit of a narcissist sometimes and we don’t have any choice in the matter. But then I remind myself that God knows some things I don’t and hence why I cannot come to terms or understand the logic behind all his teachings but that he is right anyway.
Where in the male body does semen come from according to Islamic texts?
 
Bit of a contradiction to bag on the French Revolution and then say the only thing you respect is constitutional republicanism... IMHO. US and France are the reasons that form of government is as common as it is right now. Kind of misses the point to focus on the temporary restoration of the monarchy ages ago when the story of the last two centuries is how the Revolution changed the entire world.


The 'French Revolution' part was on their version of Secularism, not Republicanism. There are two inverse forms of Secularism (one intended to protect religion, the other intended to suppress religion). The latter form leads to persecution, which is what the former form (on paper) was trying to escape.

Republicanism comes from the Roman Republic. And comparable council based governments existed in Iran as well even earlier.

You can't give the French Revolution credit for Republicanism, any more than you can give the Bolshevik Revolution credit for that. The only thing they did was introduce it to many regions.
 
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You think all countries are like the United States and Saudi Arabia. There are not just secular countries out there, but a whole secular world. Syria, for example, was a secular country before "we" decided to torch the Middle East. Christians and Muslims there celebrated each others holidays. Sweden is a much more secular country. Sweden doesn't even have Christmas, but Yule. Yule is as secular as holidays get.

Why not leave Medieval values in the Middle Age?
The Soviets, Maoists and Nazis were also secular. I dont think you can objectively say "secularism is objectively better" because it is also responsible for mass violence and persecution.

There's secularism of the American tradition (on paper) that means 'freedom of religion', then there's secularism of the French tradition which is more 'suppression of religion'. That's what they did following the French Revolution, they went on a Reign of Terror and actively killed Catholic clergy and invented their own religion and calendar, which eventually fell away and Napoleon came to power.

The French Revolution was a giant failure; not only did they they replace one Absolute monarchy with another Absolute monarchy, but after Napoleon's house fell they literally brought back the the old monarchy to replace it. The French Revolution is what gave birth to the Fascist and Communist lines of thought. Communism itself being named after the Paris Commune, and Fascism being born out of the right-wing current of Syndicalism.

Secularism, Communism, Socialism, Democracy, Liberalism are all buzzwords with no clear meaning or consistency.

The only thing I respect is Republicanism, specifically Constitutional Republicanism, because it has some clear meaning behind it. And as long as that Constitution is well-thought out and applicable, you can function properly and relatively-fairly whether that's the U.S. or Iran.

The reason why Europe isn't a complete warzone or shithole like its been for most of history is not because they're "liberal democracies" like people keep parroting but because they have a constitution that allows and restricts certain freedoms. Otherwise democracy only leads to one of two things demagoguery** or gynocracy. Still, there are holes in the Western system, which is why its running towards gynocracy and the air of domestic demagoguery is also in the air (Frankly, foreign-policy based demagoguery is still in full-swing). I give it about a century before this Democratic delusion collapses. The philosophers of Greek antiquity up until the US founding fathers wrote extensively against the problems of "democracy" or mob rule.

**See several states in post-partition Africa, the Balkans, South Asia and Myanmar. Democracy only enabled ethnic tribalism and demagoguery.
You giving it a century is overly optimistic. I agree democracy doesn't work, people don't understand the importance of the Constitution and how and why to defend it. Democracy equals two wolves and a sheep voting for what they will eat for dinner.
 
You giving it a century is overly optimistic. I agree democracy doesn't work, people don't understand the importance of the Constitution and how and why to defend it. Democracy equals two wolves and a sheep voting for what they will eat for dinner.

I believe in a republican system where every demographic has a seat, but not where every single person has a seat.

More specifically I don't believe every single person over 18 deserves a vote; or that even 18 is a logical number, why not 16 as some argue?

Aside from the ethnic problems, which manifests itself in many countries. The gender disparity is routinely ignored.

Women are the majority of the populace, and that's during peace time. When there is a war, the male population drops dramatically.

Politicians cater to the largest vote bank, and if Women are the majority then laws are made in their favor. Today society is trying to be equal and equitable towards women, so laws that hold them back are being stripped. But what about laws that give them a leg up....or ten legs up? They aren't being rolled back.

Things like child-support and divorce-settlements were created for a world where female employment was rare and they needed these things. Now its being used completely unfairly. At the same time, they have literally INCENTIVIZED single parenthood and divorces and gold-digging. Even the welfare system in its current form is designed to promote broken families.

Another critique of modern democracy is that its not about who has the best policies, but rather about whoever has the biggest checkbook. The people who spend the most money are the ones who are going to win. They have the media, advertising and often the businesses in their pocket.
 
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Reading through these posts makes me realize what a vast difference there is in intelligence level of sherdog members.
 
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