Media Khamzat Chimaev or Poatan - Who's more likely to be in the top 10 all-time rankings?

Who's more likely to be in the top 10 all-time rankings?


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(When it's all said and done.)

Who do you see being in the MMA top 10 all-time list?

That being said, both might not even be in most of you top 10. But the question is who's more likely to be in it.

Depending who Khamzat fights of course, but If Chimaev fights at least twice a year and goes undefeated till his career is done. Than I'd say him.



 
It depends how dominant Chimaev remains and how many defences he has, but Meerschaert, Aliskerov, Whittaker, Jingliang, Holland, Burns, Usman, Dricus. I mean that is a very good mix of opponents. Everyone that Pereira has fought has mostly been stylistically ideal for him. Even Ankalaev, who despite having grappling, barely ever used it and preferred to strike with opponents. At Middleweight he was fed favourable opponents, apart from Izzy, who he took a bad loss against.

I suppose LHW is quite shallow in regards to grappling specialists, so that isn't his fault as he came too late. I think it's similar to the HW division in that both Pereira and Aspinall arrived too late when their respective divisions were arguably at their weakest. A few years earlier and it would have been very interesting for both. I'm not sure either would have been champions if they arrived a few years earlier.
 
Chimaev would lose to Usman and Dricus if there weren't rounds limit

But let's see their next fights, they should finish Imavov and Ulberg
 
poat literally speedrunned 2 ufsea divisions and everyone tried to gaslight me into thinking that it was khamfat who was doing that

poat already is a goat
it would take khamzard about 7-8 years of blanking someone to reach the point where poatan already is
 
(When it's all said and done.)

Who do you see being in the MMA top 10 all-time list?

That being said, both might not even be in most of you top 10. But the question is who's more likely to be in it.

Depending who Khamzat fights of course, but If Chimaev fights at least twice a year and goes undefeated till his career is done. Than I'd say him.





Alex already done it, right now Merab is way above him
 
Alex. He will have accomplished far more. Khamzat's biggest flaw in his inactivity, I just got a feeling when he calls it a day he resume will look very thin, probably a few ranked names he would have fought in his entire career when its all said and done

Even though Alex is much older I still think he is gonna fight way more than Khamzat.
 
Khamzat has one title win after being in the promotion for six years while Poatan has six title wins in a year less. Based on activity alone I think Pereira has a much better shot plus he has weaker competition at LHW
How is LHW weaker than MW? Pereria just beat everybody there is good to fight . MW I would argue is worse or equal to lhw.
 
I don't know... a double champ with 6 title fight wins and former double champ with 8 title fights wins @ Glory or a current champ with no defenses yet?

Hard to tell.
 
Khamzat would have to seriously up his activity levels to come close to be honest. He has the talent but he's not really had the impact he should have given his first year in the UFC. I think the mess caused on his health by severe Covid is partially responsible for that but I don't know why he's fought so infrequently since returning to health.
 
Poatan for sure

I personally don't buy it, I don't think Khamzat is that far ahead of the pack, I said before the DDP fight that DDP was going to get embarrassed. Anytime Khamzat has fought someone with good TDD or really good BJJ he has struggled, aside from the Whittaker fight which was a freak injury and the 17 second KO against GM3 which didn't show us much.

The issue for Khamzat will be finishing fights. His ability to finish fights doesn't seem great against the elite. So until proven otherwise it's hard to side with him. He has a lot of flaws that will make championship fights hard to win. He dominated DDP as I expected, but his actual performance was not that impressive to me. If he had true top 10 skill, he would've finished that fight in the first two rounds, that told us a lot about him even if most viewers don't yet understand it.

It's very hard to win at the elite level with Khamzat's style. Every now and then you'll get a Merab or GSP who break the rules, but winning strictly through control time & takedowns is not a valid strategy against most elite fighters. Khamzat doesn't have the discipline or cardio of those guys, and he's not as good a striker as GSP.

When GSP had to fight the Shields, Hendricks, and Koschecks of the world the fights looked VERY different, Koscheck even took down GSP. The difference was GSP could rely on his striking to win even when the grappling wasn't going to be very effective. Khamzat has not shown anything like that against the elite imo. We also have to factor in that Khamzat would need many years to put together a top 10 resume, with his age now he's already at the near expiration date of his quick & explosive grappling style. So even if you believe that Khamzat could theoretically beat most guys in the top 10, he likely won't even fight them. Other fighters will catch up quickly with the time he takes between fights.


So basically, Khamzat has no chance of becoming an all-time top 10 fighter, you have to give the nod to Poatan just off more achievements and possibly some great potential wins in his future if things go his way. Khamzat is playing catchup to Poatan now, yet he likely won't age anywhere near as well or fight as often. Poatan could stop fighting today and he would likely still have a greater case when all things were said and done. Khabib retired young, GSP retired young, Merab is a freak who is historically active. Khamzat lost a lot of prime years that may have placed him among the top 20 fighters, but it seems like that ship has sailed. If he can defend the MW title a few times he can still become a top 3-5 MW.

Khamzat: 0%

Poatan: 5-10% (would likely need to defend once more, defeat Jones, then win the HW title to have an undisputed spot in the top 10).

Even if Poatan could do all of those things, he still would get shit because Jones is old, the HW division is historically bad, and Ulberg isn't that great of a fighter. When you understand this you realize Khamzat has ZERO chance of getting into the top 10.
 
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khamzat needs to defend atleast 4 times to beat alex in all time rankings
 
Poatan because he is an active fighter & finishes guys. He put the entire company on his shoulders & has saved cards too. If he wins HW gold it's not even up for discussion.
 
(When it's all said and done.)

Who do you see being in the MMA top 10 all-time list?

That being said, both might not even be in most of you top 10. But the question is who's more likely to be in it.

Depending who Khamzat fights of course, but If Chimaev fights at least twice a year and goes undefeated till his career is done. Than I'd say him.




GOATWOLF is a GOAT no doubt, but Poatang has many title defenses in two divisions I think. With almost as many finishes. Gotta be near impossible to top that imo
 
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