Khalil Rountree Jr's Oblique Kick ........

[HHJ]

Sure you don't. You've definitely bitched about his kicks in the past, you seem like that type of two faced shit-wipe.

Here is a screenshot of me being an absolute chad in 2016

 

[IndyCovaHart]

That’s a move I would use to save my life or protect my loved ones; not to win a sporting competition.

But that’s just me.

 

[Captain Herb]

All sports have rules to disallow certain things that "aren't very sporting."

In the NFL, one of the rules involves not climbing on your teammate's back to try to block a kick/punt. It's sporting to jump as high as YOU can; it's not sporting to climb on your teammates back to get a boost.

In a sport fight, oblique kicking techniques to the knee aren't very sporting.

EDIT: Some put foot stomping in that category, too, but I actually have a soft spot for that because it can dissuade wall-and-stallers.

I agree but sitting on someone and raining down fists and elbows like a schoolyard fight isn't considered sporting by most people either. At least that's what boxing fans would say.

 

[Vanskyl]

This.

Meh, thats stupid, especially about this kick. HHJ said it perfectly

 

[dc007]

That was awesome

 

[J-Pac]

I think, similar to 12-6 elbows, knees to a downed opponent, and strikes to the back of the head, making this move illegal would be a reasonable limit to what you can do in the cage. My logic here being that its a potentially career ending injury that can result, and they have no opportunity to tap out. At least with nasty leg locks there is an opportunity to give up. Getting your knee ligaments torn apart is far worse than a knockout.

 

[knees2ribs]

I mean at first thought I was like, "Dick move" especially when Khalil talked about the intent behind it. But on reflection it was one of the best TKOs I've ever seen. There's a reason you don't put your full weight down on a set up jab at that range.

 

[Bob Sapp]

is this the striking version of the heel hook ? i mean how it can fuck up your leg pretty bad

 

[Black Paladin]

That’s a move I would use to save my life or protect my loved ones; not to win a sporting competition.

But that’s just me.

You, my friend, have made an EXCELLENT point. Some of these dingleberries can't seem to think about it all the way through.

This isn't a REAL FIGHT. Imagine what techniques you would bar for someone trying to hurt or kill you/your mother/father/etc. That's right--you would hold NOTHING BACK. It's ALL GOOD.

But this is a sporting competition. That's why they don't eye gouge (at least, they aren't supposed to, and should be penalized immediately). No Glasgow/Manchester/Liverpool Kisses, AKA headbutting. No hairpulling. No punching backs of heads and spines. And other things.

The oblique knee attack is one of the next things that will be in that previous paragraph.

 

[Black Paladin]

I agree but sitting on someone and raining down fists and elbows like a schoolyard fight isn't considered sporting by most people either. At least that's what boxing fans would say.

But boxing has a different ruleset, and mindset. They don't attack below the belt, and they aren't even suppose to attack in the clinch.

 

[Dirty Frank]

Dude I couldn't agree more!
If we are fine with head trauma we can't ban stuff that is less dangerous than that, makes no sense at all.

On that note its a massive oversight that groin strikes and small joint manipulation is illegal but thats what you get with these commission people I guess.

The most bizarre unjustly illegal technique is by far the "fish-hook" since that is easily countered by biting anyways (which should also be legal, atleast on non vital stuff like fingers) .

Alright ima go to sparring now and grab some people by the hair, see ya later

 

[OverhandRightKayo]

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..... hurts to watch. DISCUSS !

Discuss-ting

 

[Black Paladin]

In Rugby and Aussie rules football jumping off your teammate is a logical and skillful way to get higher. There's nothing inherently "unsporting" about it. I get your point though, but would use a different example. Stomping on toes in unsporting in a completely different way than jumping off a teammate to get higher (which is just practical/creative).

I am talking about the NFL. I have seen that Rugby and Aussie stuff, though. It's a different animal. Cheerleading lets you get on your teammates' backs, too.

 

[TCE]

You, my friend, have made an EXCELLENT point. Some of these dingleberries can't seem to think about it all the way through.

This isn't a REAL FIGHT. Imagine what techniques you would bar for someone trying to hurt or kill you/your mother/father/etc. That's right--you would hold NOTHING BACK. It's ALL GOOD.

But this is a sporting competition. That's why they don't eye gouge (at least, they aren't supposed to, and should be penalized immediately). No Glasgow/Manchester/Liverpool Kisses, AKA headbutting. No hairpulling. No punching backs of heads and spines. And other things.

The oblique knee attack is one of the next things that will be in that previous paragraph.

The obligue kick/knee attack isn't going anywhere.

 

[Kryptt]

Up to the bodies that regulate the sport.

I have no problem with their use in the cage. I've had my leg jammed in sparring and was rather pissed about it tho...

As others have said we do not need further restrictions. Again tho jus imo and not something I'm overly concerned with.

 

[LHWBelt]

Retard logic here. Arm bars are different as the fighter gets a chance to tap before the damage is done. Check kicks can be avoided by not throwing the kick. This oblique kick is vastly different as it is the other fighter is throwing it at you, and if it lands right, it can instantly tear up your knee with all kinds of ligament damage. Same with how eye pokes are banned along with other moves, like small joint manipulation.

Kicking someone just above the knee isn't bad, but when you kick someone on the knee like in this case, it can cause severe damage. Moves like this, should be banned. If not, then let everything be legal, like knees to head, head butt, groin strikes, eye gouging, etc. Why have any rules in place to begin with?

Tell Frank Mir they got time to tap on an arm bar. Fuck out with that shit that's up to the dude applying it. And about 100% of fighters throw low kicks so if they remove that from their arsenal they going to be at a pretty big disadvantage.

 

[Grappling Magic]

It seems to me that Jackson Winkeljohn MMA camp is one of the biggest supporters and practitioners of the oblique kick.

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[Arrrrgh]

Khalil looks so good when he wins. Like an unsolvable puzzle.

And then when he loses it's like the roles were reversed and he's lost and confused.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

how dare he kick that guy when he was trying to punch him1?!

who cares? brain cells are useless, it's knee ligaments that must be protected at all costs!

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Eyepokes and headbutts are JUST AS EFFECTIVE, or even MORE EFFECTIVE, than oblique knee attacks. Just two banned attacks of several.

But they aren't allowed, are they? Why?

Because they AREN'T SPORTING.

Anyone have a rebuttal for the above?

yes, because it takes zero skill to eye poke or headbutt someone.

people are going to immediately go to gouge an eye and that's it. the fight is over. nobody is going to let somebody with their eye gouged fight. headbutts will also get tons of fights stopped prematurely because of the very nature of headbutting. the only way it can stop fights is by cutting or swelling.

we have seen exactly ONE stoppage from the oblique kick.