Khabib: I choked both McGregor and Poirier. Why should I fight them again?

[Area809]

Imagine if Matt Hughes told GSP ... "I made you tap to an arm bar ... why should I fight you again".

Imagine if DC told Stipe ... "I KO'd you ... why should I fight you again".

DC would be arguably the best HW of all time if he retired after that KO.

With that said ... Conor didn't give Aldo a rematch so F him.

Seems not giving a rematch is a wiser move.

Just take your win and move on. That's the lesson we are getting from these "GOATs"

GSP and Stipe were very competitive in their losing efforts. Just saying

 

[Hassan Mouzine]

Imagine if Matt Hughes told GSP ... "I made you tap to an arm bar ... why should I fight you again".

Imagine if DC told Stipe ... "I KO'd you ... why should I fight you again".

DC would be arguably the best HW of all time if he retired after that KO.

With that said ... Conor didn't give Aldo a rematch so F him.

Seems not giving a rematch is a wiser move.

Just take your win and move on. That's the lesson we are getting from these "GOATs"

those are all fighters that not only had losses on their records, but also from time to time looked vulnerable and beatable

khabib mauled those two and made it look easy. showed everybody that there are levels to this shit and they are NOT on his level. not even close. the guy is 29-0 and in every title defense he looked better and better.

in other words: the other guys might want a rematch and anything could happen, but they are NOT a challenge.

damn people, are we quick to forget? conor got dropped on the feet, begged for mercy when he said 'it's only business' and then didnt fight the choke and saw khabib go after his team mates

dustin felt the animal in the cage and hope vanished when he replied to his trainers: 'i can't get this guy off me'.

gaethje who predicted a car crah and was considered the most violent man in the cage on the feet......started running in the octagon. khabib didn't even use ground and pound and just made quick work of him with submission attempts/transition from one to another without the fear of losing position.


he didn't 'just' finish them, like the examples you gave. he rendered them helpless and improved himself with each fight as a champ. he deserves a bigger fight than those 2. he already proved they are not his level

 

[VinceArch]

because an unmotivated, drunk and coked to the gills Conor won a round against you

Still lost lol.

 

[eddymotto]

he does not sound particularly retired

he is correct that most fans would view Khabib as the massive favorite against either guy

he is a prizefighter and prizefighters are always negotiating. the only leverage these guys ever have is withholding their services.

 

[Kwic]

Imagine if Matt Hughes told GSP ... "I made you tap to an arm bar ... why should I fight you again".

Imagine if DC told Stipe ... "I KO'd you ... why should I fight you again".

DC would be arguably the best HW of all time if he retired after that KO.

With that said ... Conor didn't give Aldo a rematch so F him.

Seems not giving a rematch is a wiser move.

Just take your win and move on. That's the lesson we are getting from these "GOATs"

My first thought was "you are right", but after second thought I can tell you what the difference is.
GSP fought Hughes the second time after winning 5 in a row.
DC rematched Stipe, because he didn't get the Brock fight, no other matchup made sense than Stipe + DC didn't really want to this fight but he had to take it, and also a quick KO like that leaves questions, what if he didn't KO him right there and then?
With Khabib, he clearly looked like a superior fighter, he is "retired" so that changes things also, why come back for those matchups, and last thing is that neither Conor, nor Dustin had couple of wins after the loss. After a dominant loss like that, people are not really interested in the rematch after 1/2 wins with an opponent that doesn't prove that fighter that's lost can really make a difference in the rematch with Khabib, those were different styles, Cowboy (not even the same weighclass) and Hooker. If they both fought 2 great wrestlers with decent striking back to back then I would be interested. So yes, I can see why Khabib says that.

 

[King in the North]

I choked my chicken last night



probably gonna choke it again tonight. What’s the issue?

 

[xMTDx]

There's no sober Conor 2.0. The Conor that Khabib defeated was the best version and now he is older and very selective with his fights.

 

[Gi Choke]

It's true.

 

[chiefwiggum]

But he's retired. Those possibilities existed before he retired, and he chose to retire. So, really, the question is what would change the calculus that went into his retiring in the first place?

it’s McGregir or gsp. I’ve been around prizefighting for so long. Literally nobody retires at 32.
32 is prime for fighting. Go secure your legacy when you’re at top form. Man. In this last year. I’ve lost my brother my sister. And going through a divorce. And have children.

well shit. I guess if I was khabib I would just cash it in to. Lol.

 

[aroptedi]

hes not retired.

but hes retired if you ask him to fight anyone he's already fought.


the only way he comes back is if islam loses to Conor for the belt.

 

[Deleted member 506663]

Imagine Matt Serra after winning the belt: "I made him tap to strikes in the first round. There's no need for a rematch!"

Hardly similar. Ser

Blah blah blah just vanish aldready everyone knows you are afraid of a smack from motivated and sober Conor 2.0 because it would feel like a double barred shotgun and thats
the only reason why you are retired, besides nobody wants to see you leghump and cage exploit in the UFC ever again anyways.

Cry more...

 

[Cooliox]

Khabib won the belt off some guy who took the fight on 1 day notice.

After that, he's had 3 title defenses. 3.


To act as if there's no one left to fight, or nothing left to prove, is HILARIOUS.

There's everything left to prove. There have been PLENTY of more successful fighters, and successful champions.

Many of those champions fought rematches. It's nothing new.

I respect Khabib's decision to retire... but to act like there's nothing left for him in the UFC, is stupid, and untrue.

 

[fzoid4454]

his choice and again, just an understandable choice given all circumstances.

he's in the pool again.

guess we'll see what happens from here. you can't just summarize his career by not defending a title ignoring the things he's done in the cage.

but again, people are free to believe what they want.

That's a straw man you are jousting with, because no one is saying that he's shit because of it.

Just that he's not exceptional compared to champions who have been able to reign and take on challengers, successfully. He'll never be considered one of the greatest ever because of that. He'll be considered someone severely hyped, someone who talked and attracted attention more than he reigned on the cage. Someone known as much for his antics outside the cage. Someone who had the potential to be one of the greatest, but decided not to see if he could go there.

He's "in the pool" again, but he still hasn't done shit. Saying he's in the pool but not fighting isn't any different than being a champion and not defending.

His only win in the last four years is over a good, strong, but not elite gatekeeper who, by his own admission, freezes up under the big spotlight. He hasn't won a fight against a top fighter since 2016.

 

[Blayt7hh]

He’s right. Neither fight was even competitive either. If ever came back for a fight it would be a complete waste to rematch either of them.

 

[fzoid4454]

it’s McGregir or gsp. I’ve been around prizefighting for so long. Literally nobody retires at 32.
32 is prime for fighting. Go secure your legacy when you’re at top form. Man. In this last year. I’ve lost my brother my sister. And going through a divorce. And have children.

well shit. I guess if I was khabib I would just cash it in to. Lol.

Actually, the people who hang on too long are the ones who are brainless and live a lifestyle they can't sustain without it, or the ones who are insecure and desperately need the adulation and the spotlight. Does Khabib strike you as either?

Athletes RARELY go out on top, and in their prime. But sometimes they do. Barry Sanders. Jim Brown. Bjorn Borg. Rocky Marciano. Calvin "Megatron" Johnson. Sandy Koufax retired at 30, after putting in a season where he had a 1.73 ERA and pitched 27 complete games. Bobby Orr - possibly the greatest hockey player ever, Robert Smith.

People hanging on too long is much, much, much more common, but people do go out on top, and in their prime.

 

[Goatbib]

None of those mentioned situations are comparable to Khabib and Conor.

Khabib was better than Conor pre-fight. He was better during the fight. He was better after the fight, and actually had an *upward* trajectory in performance in his next two fights.

This isn't Hughes/GSP, where one guy is starting to plateau or even fade and the other is rapidly rising.

It certainly isn't Serra/GSP that was based off a GOAT-level upset.

It's not even DC/Stipe where there was meaningful ambiguity about results and forecasting in the event of a rematch.

It's just one guy clearly better than the other guy in all ways, all the time.

I'll tell you what, you are abolutely right but Khabib haters are looking to hate, not looking for logic.

 

[TheWave111]

I don't understand why 'reporters' ask if Khabib wants to fight against a fighter who wanted to fight Diego Sanchez.

Imagine a reporter asks the coach of Real Madrid if they want to play against a 6th division team.

 

[Woliwo]

I find the Fergusson vs Oliviera winner more interesting.

 

[Deleted member 581023]

Imagine if Matt Hughes told GSP ... "I made you tap to an arm bar ... why should I fight you again".

Imagine if DC told Stipe ... "I KO'd you ... why should I fight you again".

DC would be arguably the best HW of all time if he retired after that KO.

With that said ... Conor didn't give Aldo a rematch so F him.

Seems not giving a rematch is a wiser move.

Just take your win and move on. That's the lesson we are getting from these "GOATs"

I guess Stipe should fight Jon and tell Francis to fuck off eh.

 

[Max_P]

Remember when Mc_nut_huggets didn't think this was possible ...



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