Khabib GOAT status compared to others.

[Kha'bless]

What is there to refute? He won... what am I refuting, exactly? lol

You know how I know you can't possibly win this debate/argument/conversation? Because all you can do is resort to name calling. The sign of "I have no argument and am butthurt".

lol have a nice day. Wonder how long you'll last on this account before getting banned with dubs already. How many accounts have you burned through on Sherdog, troll? Try to talk like an adult instead of a teenager, if you want to talk to the big boys.

Literally can't refute anything I say or even come near presenting an alternative to my points. Because Khabib is so dominant you now say 'at least he won' for your favourite fighters when they looked like dog shit, lmao such is the way of Khabib haters.

 

[Bear Faced Liar]

Anyone can cherry pick bad moments in a fighter's career:

Doesn't mean you are making a good argument though.

 

[chinarice]

Literally can't refute anything I say or even come near presenting an alternative to my points. Because Khabib is so dominant you now say 'at least he won' for your favourite fighters when they looked like dog shit, lmao such is the way of Khabib haters.

What did you present? You presented nothing. You said a guy is better than another guy and I said it's unproven. Do I need to make a fucking big presentation for your argument of X fighter is better than Y fighter with no explanation to why?

Your last sentence isn't even English. You just put words next to each other and are trying to pass it off as a sentence.

Winning is winning. I didn't even come into this thread talking about Khabib having nothing for Gleison Tibau and losing on nearly every media scorecard. Didn't even bring that up, fella.

I am still waiting for you to refute any point I made in here or are you just taking the Ls on that? These games are super fun!

 

[chinarice]

Anyone can cherry pick bad moments in a fighter's career:

Doesn't mean you are making a good argument though.

Khabib was outstruck and stifled offensively and the only TDs came from Tibau. I am still trying to understand how he won. I guess just moving your legs forward > being stifled in every offensive way.

Gleison landed more strikes, higher % landed, was not outlanded any round and was the only one to get a TD but Khabib won... Smesh and all that other stuff.

 

[mmacrisis]

Khabib best ever at 155 but as far as P4P, Silva or GSP would be there because they not only owned their division for so long but because they moved up in weight and won. If Jones time at HW is as amazing as his time at LHW he will be P4P GOAT.

 

[Zolid]

2nd in my books.

Khabib never had a Matt Serra moment.

he had 4 defenses . he had no time to have serra moments

 

[Texan6533]

I would put GSP, Jones and Fedor above him, but he’s a solid 4 on the goat list and definitely the greatest LW ever.

 

[Nova44]

#1

29-0

Never lost

Never popped

Never even been scratched

Cleaned out the toughest division in MMA history

Bow to the one true king

I know you're joking but anyone who says Khabib cleaned out the toughest division in MMA history is being silly. I know he can only beat who is in his division but there isn't a single high level wrestler at LW so all Khabib has to do every fight is take everyone down because nobody can stop him, easy money.

I'm not saying Khabib should fight WWs or anything but look at that division, Colby, Usman, Woodley (when he was sane), Koscheck, GSP, Hughes, Hendricks, Askren (Bellator version). There's always been top tier wrestlers at that weight.

LW... Frankie and Gray smashed people for years, BJ couldn't be taken down by anyone until he fought Frankie then dropped off.

I like Khabib but he's had a wrestler free division for his whole reign, and don't say Gaejthe, he never uses his wrestling.

Also i'm pretty sure Shogun, Rampage, Wanderlei, Chuck, Overeem, Arona, Vitor, Hendo, Sokoudjou, Lil Nog and Saku is the toughest division in MMA history.

LW GOAT - yes
GOAT of MMA? I think he's 4th

 

[gono btw]

Khabib never fought anyone bigger than him. Silva has beaten LHWs while GSP has titles in 2 divisions.

Also, Khabib has never fought a wrestler before.
.

Looks like someone hardly watched his career...

 

[COBRA03]

He will not be GOAT for me because he didn't defend the title very much and He never tried to move up in weight. I can see how others would consider him GOAT, but I would pick GSP first, because he won a title in 2 weight classes and had multiple defenses. Also, no positive drug tests. Fedor went about 8 years in PRIDE without losing, fighting most of the best. Khabib will always be in the argument, but he is not my GOAT. A Silva and Jones are always in the conversation, but since they have been busted for steroids, it's harder to pick one of them. If Jones wins HW title and remains undefeated though, he would be my GOAT, despite the steroid busts. But hey, that's just my opinion.

 

[hbombfromhell]

Anyone can cherry pick bad moments in a fighter's career:

Doesn't mean you are making a good argument though.

Don't think getting taken down for two seconds like Khabib compares to getting ktfo like Anderson buddy. <Lmaoo>Nice try.

 

[hbombfromhell]

I know you're joking but anyone who says Khabib cleaned out the toughest division in MMA history is being silly. I know he can only beat who is in his division but there isn't a single high level wrestler at LW so all Khabib has to do every fight is take everyone down because nobody can stop him, easy money.

I'm not saying Khabib should fight WWs or anything but look at that division, Colby, Usman, Woodley (when he was sane), Koscheck, GSP, Hughes, Hendricks, Askren (Bellator version). There's always been top tier wrestlers at that weight.

LW... Frankie and Gray smashed people for years, BJ couldn't be taken down by anyone until he fought Frankie then dropped off.

I like Khabib but he's had a wrestler free division for his whole reign, and don't say Gaejthe, he never uses his wrestling.

Also i'm pretty sure Shogun, Rampage, Wanderlei, Chuck, Overeem, Arona, Vitor, Hendo, Sokoudjou, Lil Nog and Saku is the toughest division in MMA history.

LW GOAT - yes
GOAT of MMA? I think he's 4th

Gaethje is a D1 wrestler. Just because he doesn't use his wrestling offensively is irrelevant. People before than fight were saying Khabib wouldn't be able to take or hold him down. He also broke the TD record on fellow wrestler Trujillo, handled prime RDA (who has outwrestled several wrestlers) and Shalorus.

 

[HP_Nut]

Khabib is amazing, but people get caught up in the 29-0 magic number (0 losses). He has 6 ranked wins I believe, so 23 of those wins don't carry much weight when discussing GOAT. GSP has about 18 ranked wins, to put into perspective. If Khabib didn't retire, & had more title defenses, yes, he is definitely capable of surpassing GSP. Khabib has the dominance & skills, but as of now, objectively, the argument that he is the GOAT isn't a strong one IMO

 

[thobra]

Khabib is great, and has looked almost unreal, but it is too early to say if he should step into the top 5 goat rankings. He will need some more fights. Fight Colby or Usman or some other top WWs, and we can start to talk about top 5...

 

[Bear Faced Liar]

Don't think getting taken down for two seconds like Khabib compares to getting ktfo like Anderson buddy. <Lmaoo>Nice try.

The Silva getting ktfo gif showed him losing at his own game.

The Khabib getting taken down gif showed Khabib losing at his own game.

If you can't see the obvious parallelisms then I guess you are kinda slow. You're also missing the whole point, which is saying that a highlight gif doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.

Show me this for Khabib;

Let's examine the stories behind those gifs you guys keep throwing out.

Silva was getting knocked out at the tail end of a 10 title defense streak over 6 years. Interim, he also went up to LHW and won 3 non-title fights. Eventually, he got old ( > 35), lost his speed and got caught. No shame in that. Contrastingly, Khabib had 3 times fewer defenses, and almost killed himself on weight cuts to continue fighting small guys.

GSP was caught offguard by a noob and got finished. No excuses there. But he came back to avenge his loss in devastating fashion:

Your argument is disingenuous because you are deliberately omitting the rest of the story. This is like saying the Empire won and Han Solo remained frozen in carbonite forever because you only watched the second movie.

Context is everything. The only thing you have shown in the gifs is that Silva got old, and anyone can get caught on any night.

 

[pick999]

Only casuals think khabib is goat.he might be p4p right now but the toughest division?

 

[King in the North]

Do we think Khabib’s 13 fight UFC win streak is as impressive as Anderson Silva’s 16 fight win streak in the UFC?

Was his title reign as long and dominant as GSP?

Did he clean out an entire generation of fighters and make his division a wasteland, like Jones?

He isn’t even the UFC GOAT. Great fighter. One of the best to ever do it. But I don’t think I would answer any of those questions in the affirmative.

 

[tehMoose]

Khabib's resume is too weak to be considered a GOAT

 

[hbombfromhell]

Khabib's resume is too weak to be considered a GOAT

It depends your criteria for GOAT

For me I see Khabib as the GOAT because he's the best fighter, some other fighters have more names on their resumes, but I still don't see them as being as dominant, they struggled more, lost, did not have his godly skills.

So Khabib is my GOAT because he's the best p4p ever.

 

[tehMoose]

It depends your criteria for GOAT

For me I see Khabib as the GOAT because he's the best fighter, some other fighters have more names on their resumes, but I still don't see them as being as dominant, they struggled more, lost, did not have his godly skills.

So Khabib is my GOAT because he's the best p4p ever.

How do you know he's the best fighter? It's not that hard to beat those skinny strikers. I bet Chandler will look more impressive against Conor and Poirier than Khabib did.

Khabib fought one guy built similar to Chandler, you know Tibau. And he struggled with him, some say he even lost that fight.

He has like 5 good wins on his record dude. There are plenty of guys with better wins than him that are nowhere close to being a GOAT.