Khabib GOAT status compared to others.

[hbombfromhell]

the zero defeat is actually not the crucial thing. YOu can lose and come back and prove even more that you can do that.

If JDS retired after the Fran Mir fight, he would've be considered the GOAT also?

No not a crucial thing at all.

How many other fighters are 29-0?

Khabib is the only one in MMA.

 

[chinarice]

29-0 >>>20-0

That didn't take long.

You didn't prove anything. Adesanya's 20-0 is more impressive than Khabib's 29-0. Sorry bud. Adesanya didn't need 16 fights to fight someone worth a damn

 

[thelovacluka]

WHich one of the GOATS has the zero?

Muhammad ALi?
GSP?
FEDOR?
SILVA?
Demetrius Jonhson?

No, it's not crucial.

YOu have people 25-0 that fought bums.

 

[Austinus]

Adesanya's undefeated record is more impressive.

Izzy is an incredible fighter. Defo will be in the all time GOAT debate once hes done. even if he loses to Jan.

 

[hbombfromhell]

You didn't prove anything. Adesanya's 20-0 is more impressive than Khabib's 29-0. Sorry bud. Adesanya didn't need 16 fights to fight someone worth a damn

Whatever helps you sleep easier about Khabib being the GOAT.

 

[empsim]

Obviously potential to be GOAT but not enough title fights

 

[chinarice]

Whatever helps you sleep easier about Khabib being the GOAT.

Not even top5... Arguably not even top10

 

[aali14]

My personal opinion on why he's not P4P Goat material:

1. Only fought 5 opponents worth mentioning, being undefeated is not nearly as impressive when it's not against lots of high calibre opposition. He's undefeated against 5 world class opponents, does that sound impressive to you?

2. Only 3 title defenses, title defenses are the most difficult thing to do in this sport, because once you're the champ you're facing hungry contenders and ONLY contenders, in the main / co-main event, 5 rounders, lots of press obligations, lots of attention, you're representing your country, all the fucking pressure in the world. Performing with that burden is the most stressful and difficult thing to do.

3. He's been facing strikers, Khabib is very one dimensional compared to the likes of JJ, GSP and Fedor because he only dominates when he can get the takedown. He's lucky he hasn't faced any elite MMA wrestlers to really put him to the test, because he has no plan B.

4. He's a WW killing himself to make LW for a size advantage. Khabib has had fights at WW pre UFC. The guy experienced seizures cutting weight for the biggest fight of his life against Conor. At that level you're already equipped with the best team, sparring partner and access to a nutritionist and still he experienced something as serious as seizures. The one time he fought a guy he has no size advantage in was Gleison Tibau and magically looked average because he couldn't take him down.

5. If he was champ earlier he might have gotten stripped for missing weight, fight pullouts, inactivity and injuries. He can barely fight twice a year.

He is the LW Goat imo which is good enough, despite being tied with BJ and Bendo with the record of LW titles defenses.

 

[TheWave111]

Khabib is the best fighter in human history.
He doesn't rely on his reach.
He has the highest fight IQ. A person with short arms like him and still dominating opponents with a superior reach is impressive.

 

[Bear Faced Liar]

I don't disagree that Khabib didn't fight as many Top opponents, but he's still a better and more dominant fighter, with a more impressive skillset.

Silva and GSP took their licks and several losses. Silva also popped.

GSP could never pull off something this high level

In their heydays, Silva and GSP looked just as dominant and unbeatable.

Khabib never fought anyone bigger than him. Silva has beaten LHWs while GSP has titles in 2 divisions.

Silva was unbeaten in the UFC until he got old. GSP avenged both his losses convincingly.

Khabib could never pull off something like this as well:

Also, Khabib has never fought a wrestler before. He can't even take down journeyman Tibau. While Tibau actually took Khabib down in Round 2. The only wrestler with any pedigree Khabib beat doesn't even use wrestling (Gaethje).

Silva and GSP has beaten guys from different disciplines, wrestlers, strikers etc. GSP has beaten several Division 1 and 2 wrestlers.

Do you seriously think that Khabib has a more impressive skillset? Let's be objective. Khabib is a one-trick pony. He tanks hits, walks people down, pushes them against the fence and takes them down. Don't get me wrong, Khabib is great at what he does. Possibly the best. But you can't, in all honestly, say that he has a more impressive skillset than GSP.

I have nothing against Khabib and I think he is one of the greatest fighters around. I'm just a little tired of all the nuthugging. People who think Khabib is GOAT need to ask themselves if they are suffering from recency bias.

 

[hbombfromhell]

In their heydays, Silva and GSP looked just as dominant and unbeatable.

Khabib never fought anyone bigger than him. Silva has beaten LHWs while GSP has titles in 2 divisions.

Silva was unbeaten in the UFC until he got old. GSP avenged both his losses convincingly.

Khabib could never pull off something like this as well:

Also, Khabib has never fought a wrestler before. He can't even take down journeyman Tibau. While Tibau actually took Khabib down in Round 2. The only wrestler with any pedigree Khabib beat doesn't even use wrestling (Gaethje).

Silva and GSP has beaten guys from different disciplines, wrestlers, strikers etc. GSP has beaten several Division 1 and 2 wrestlers.

Do you seriously think that Khabib has a more impressive skillset? Let's be objective. Khabib is a one-trick pony. He tanks hits, walks people down, pushes them against the fence and takes them down. Don't get me wrong, Khabib is great at what he does. Possibly the best. But you can't, in all honestly, say that he has a more impressive skillset than GSP.

I have nothing against Khabib and I think he is one of the greatest fighters around. I'm just a little tired of all the nuthugging. People who think Khabib is GOAT need to ask themselves if they are suffering from recency bias.

That's a jab dude.

 

[flowoftruth]

 

[Bear Faced Liar]

That's a jab dude.

Precisely. Try scoring a knockdown with a jab.

Anyone who trains or watches boxing will know that while it looks deceptively simple, it takes immense precision and power to knock someone off his feet with a jab.

 

[Kha'bless]

You didn't prove anything. Adesanya's 20-0 is more impressive than Khabib's 29-0. Sorry bud. Adesanya didn't need 16 fights to fight someone worth a damn

Yeh the way Adesanya DESTROYED past prime post injury Silva and old man Romero was super impressive right, not to mention the fact he got battered against a natural WW in Gastelum despite being a professional kick boxer prior LOL. Just say you hate Khabib, it's much easier because facts aren't on your side.

 

[chinarice]

Yeh the way Adesanya DESTROYED past prime post injury Silva and old man Romero was super impressive right, not to mention the fact he got battered against a natural WW in Gastelum despite being a professional kick boxer prior LOL. Just say you hate Khabib, it's much easier because facts aren't on your side.

Nothing I said was wrong. I've never hidden that I am not a Khabib fan. Why are you trying to imply I have? I have factually been quite outspoken about it over my time here.

Not everyone needs to like your boy. You know we're allowed to like and dislike whoever we want, right.?

That said, I stand by my comments. I didn't say anything untrue. Him losing if he had the amount of fights against top fighters like GSP and Silva had are an opinion but the other things are facts.

Trying to compare a guy with 10 good wins to guys with 20+ good wins is dishonest to any IMPARTIAL fan. A word that does not exist in a Khabib fans' dictionary. Another fact, Khabib fans are as bad as they always claimed Mcgregor fans are. The only difference is the fighter. The fanbases are equally shitty on Sherdog. 2 bozos who held up the great LW division for numerous years now with their bullshit. Hopefully someone like Poirier or Chandler or Gaethje can fix this mess they made of the division being at a standstill since 2016.

 

[Repsac]

Khabib is great. One of my favorite fighters ever. But his reign has been very short. Not impressive enough to be GOAT.

 

[Snake_bite]

In their heydays, Silva and GSP looked just as dominant and unbeatable.

Khabib never fought anyone bigger than him. Silva has beaten LHWs while GSP has titles in 2 divisions.

Silva was unbeaten in the UFC until he got old. GSP avenged both his losses convincingly.

Khabib could never pull off something like this as well:

Also, Khabib has never fought a wrestler before. He can't even take down journeyman Tibau. While Tibau actually took Khabib down in Round 2. The only wrestler with any pedigree Khabib beat doesn't even use wrestling (Gaethje).

Silva and GSP has beaten guys from different disciplines, wrestlers, strikers etc. GSP has beaten several Division 1 and 2 wrestlers.

Do you seriously think that Khabib has a more impressive skillset? Let's be objective. Khabib is a one-trick pony. He tanks hits, walks people down, pushes them against the fence and takes them down. Don't get me wrong, Khabib is great at what he does. Possibly the best. But you can't, in all honestly, say that he has a more impressive skillset than GSP.

I have nothing against Khabib and I think he is one of the greatest fighters around. I'm just a little tired of all the nuthugging. People who think Khabib is GOAT need to ask themselves if they are suffering from recency bias.

 

[Kha'bless]

Nothing I said was wrong. I've never hidden that I am not a Khabib fan. Why are you trying to imply I have? I have factually been quite outspoken about it over my time here.

Not everyone needs to like your boy. You know we're allowed to like and dislike whoever we want, right.?

That said, I stand by my comments. I didn't say anything untrue. Him losing if he had the amount of fights against top fighters like GSP and Silva had are an opinion but the other things are facts.

Trying to compare a guy with 10 good wins to guys with 20+ good wins is dishonest to any IMPARTIAL fan. A word that does not exist in a Khabib fans' dictionary.

Couldn't refute what I said about Adesanya's wins over Silva, Romero and Gastelum so went on a tangent, good lad.

The fighters you mentioned don't really have an identity or life outside of fighting so they end up on the wrong end of highlight reels, that's not Khabib's fault.

I bet you're low IQ and think a title defence over a Dan Hardy or Anthony Smith is more impressive then beating a non-ranked Tsarukyan, Guram or Fiziev etc... because all that matters to you is rankings and being a title defence worshipper.

 

[91 seconds]

He has a bit of the Mike Tyson effect where it's more to do with his utter domination. You have your contenders and then you have Khabib. He's definitely the best LW ever up to this point.

 

[chinarice]

Couldn't refute what I said about Adesanya's wins over Silva, Romero and Gastelum so went on a tangent, good lad.

The fighters you mentioned don't really have an identity or life outside of fighting so they end up on the wrong end of highlight reels, that's not Khabib's fault.

I bet you're low IQ and think a title defence over a Dan Hardy or Anthony Smith is more impressive then beating a non-ranked Tsarukyan, Guram or Fiziev etc... because all that matters to you is rankings and being a title defence worshipper.

What is there to refute? He won... what am I refuting, exactly? lol

You know how I know you can't possibly win this debate/argument/conversation? Because all you can do is resort to name calling. The sign of "I have no argument and am butthurt".

lol have a nice day. Wonder how long you'll last on this account before getting banned with dubs already. How many accounts have you burned through on Sherdog, troll? Try to talk like an adult instead of a teenager, if you want to talk to the big boys.

You think those unproven fighters are better than guys who have actually beaten someone worth a damn without proving it? That's cute. No one cares about a lot of wins and no losses until you beat people worth a damn. This is real talk and if it's too real for you, I understand. If you think big numbers of wins with 0 losses and beating no one worth a damn means a lot, boxing is waiting for you buddy.... They're a dime a dozen there.